Iron Man 3 Armor Revealed!

bignatedegg56 said:
i didn't say it couldn't be rebuilt, all i was thinking was there's no real need to rebuild. seeing he's going through them at a rate of 3 per film, why replace old suits for display, why not just have the image shown?
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Are you talking film-technical or are you talking about the storyline? Just for the movies, the Warmachine is obviously an new armor, they did not wreck the MKII for that. For the story itself, Tony wants to display all of his armors, so he made a replica of the MKII just like he did with the MKI
 
Plus, its not as if he painstaking makes all his armours anyway. Apart from the mk I and Mk II i got the impression that Jarvis made all the suits using them yellow robot things. Plus he's a multi billionaire, money isn't an issue.
 
I think he could have gotten the Mark I back after Obediah bit the big one. He no dobut had it stashed somewhere.

I'm not sure what the point of remaking a Mark II. It wasn't THE Mark II, unless he took it back and refurbished it. But I don't think he'd remake armor that was inferior (i.e. couldn't fly at high altitudes).

If he did remake armors, then why is the Mark III all bashed up? He replaced the head, but why not the chest?

Bottom line, the hall of armor is eye candy for US, not because it makes sense. For Tony, this stuff would be disposable.
 
markkNL said:
Are you talking film-technical or are you talking about the storyline? Just for the movies, the Warmachine is obviously an new armor, they did not wreck the MKII for that. For the story itself, Tony wants to display all of his armors, so he made a replica of the MKII just like he did with the MKI
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storyline wise... the mk 1 was stored under the arc reactor where obidiah had the iron monger built so that could have been recovered there and the logic behind rebuilding the mk 2 after rhodey stole it just to look at seems flawed to me and with the amount of holographic stuff in the workshop already, why not just have it show an image to complete the set?

just my thinking on it, though the mk3, mk 5, mk 6 and mk7 all got pretty roughed up and the mk 3 seems to be the only one with a scratch on it so maybe he has just had some of them completely rebuilt?

:wacko
 
bignatedegg56 said:
just my thinking on it, though the mk3, mk 5, mk 6 and mk7 all got pretty roughed up and the mk 3 seems to be the only one with a scratch on it so maybe he has just had some of them completely rebuilt?

:wacko
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Good thoughts and theory.

But I still go back to the question of why leave the Mark III all dinged up at all instead of rebuilding it? And here's the kicker . . . the Mark III helmet was crushed by Obediah in the finale. Okay, the choice was either display a helmet that looked like a wadded up tissue or build a new one to complete the suit.

I buy that the best option would be to build a completely new helmet if not the whole outfit. Obviously it's not crumpled, therefore it's a brand spanking new helmet manufactured just for the display. Why then does it have a big old battle scar on the chin? Iron Man Mark III Costume - the RPF Gallery

I got to go with continuity error on this one. It should either be pristine or look like a ball of tin foil. No battle scars.
 
Slave1 said:
I got to go with continuity error on this one. It should either be pristine or look like a ball of tin foil. No battle scars.
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Or maybe it's "new" damage from pieces of the Mark VIII flying around the room... ;)

There's always another explanation.

-Nick
 
Yeah, but I think the explanations come after the fact. I go with continuity error.

For that matter, I'm wondering if the suits are derived (for the most part) from a gold alloy, when they get scuffed, why do they show silver? Okay, they maybe be plated, but even then you'd think you'd see some places were only the red paint was marred and there would be some gold showing through somewhere. Reason . . . the silver damage looks cooler, not be because it makes sense.
 
Slave1,

Gold alloy, it's not gold.
See the difference of 18k, 22k, and 24k gold color?

Gold alloy is gold with other metal mixtures. Gold itself is not rigid metal like steel. It is more like lead. It can be spread to make very thin layer (I think the thinnest metal layer is made of gold). Pure gold should not be a good armor since it can bend easily. Gold is yellowish, but when it mixed with other metal, depending on how much it contain, the color will change accordingly.

Same as titanium with titanium alloy. The color we see on titanium stuff, mostly are anodized. Titanium alloy's color mostly look similar to steel color (=silverish)

Hopefully it is satisfactory.
 
Yeah, I understand the concept of alloy.

It doesn't explain why when he gets scratches that the scratches are silver and not the same color as the bare metal of his faceplate and everything else that's gold in appearance.
 
So red is paint, and gold is bare metal?
Perhaps gold color is coated/anodized or even painted?
I aopogize that I didn't pay much attention when Start ordered Jarvis to color his suit.
 
I always assumed the gold color was the bare metal, though there are small accent pieces that are silver.

Then he tells Jarvis to throw a little hotrod red in.

I would think if the gold was painted on, then it too would show scratches of silver when it got battle damaged.

Again, I just always assumed the gold color was the bare metal / gold alloy, and that mere gold paint wouldn't stop the icing problem. Actually, if paint could stop the icing problem, he could've painted the Mark II and skipped building what we know as the Mark III.
 
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Slave1 said:
I always assumed the gold color was the bare metal, though there are small accent pieces that are silver.

Then he tells Jarvis to throw a little hotrod red in.

I would think if the gold was painted on, then it too would show scratches of silver when it got battle damaged.

Again, I just always assumed the gold color was the bare metal / gold alloy, and that mere gold paint wouldn't stop the icing problem. Actually, if paint could stop the icing problem, he could've painted the Mark II and skipped building what we know as the Mark III.
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I think the gold and silver were painted on. In the first movie Tony was telling Jarvis to paint the suit gold, and when he saw it he decided it needed some red. So I guess the bare metal would be silverish or the color of steel. Also if you look at close up HD shots of the suit after fighting (check out the closeup of the face of the Mark 7 when Tony is about to redirect the nuke) you can see that the scratches on the gold part and red part reveal a steel colored metal ;)
 
bignatedegg56 said:
to those who are querying the mk2 being in the hall of armor, being that Mr Stark has a fudge load of tech at his disposal, could it be a hologram?
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markkNL said:
Are you talking film-technical or are you talking about the storyline? Just for the movies, the Warmachine is obviously an new armor, they did not wreck the MKII for that. For the story itself, Tony wants to display all of his armors, so he made a replica of the MKII just like he did with the MKI
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Slave1 said:
I think he could have gotten the Mark I back after Obediah bit the big one. He no dobut had it stashed somewhere.

I'm not sure what the point of remaking a Mark II. It wasn't THE Mark II, unless he took it back and refurbished it. But I don't think he'd remake armor that was inferior (i.e. couldn't fly at high altitudes).

If he did remake armors, then why is the Mark III all bashed up? He replaced the head, but why not the chest?

Bottom line, the hall of armor is eye candy for US, not because it makes sense. For Tony, this stuff would be disposable.
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Ok, this may be a worn topic by now but here is my opinion. Tony is a collector. He is collecting the suits cause he is proud of being Iron Man. It puts him in the spot light. He collects cars and motorcycles too, all in his garage. He could display a hologram of the cars he likes but he is filthy rich so why not go buy the cars he likes... same with the suit. I think Nick Fury even says something about his OCD personality. So do you think he would have all but one or two suits? Nope, he rebuilt it to have/own/collect it.

Now I have to agree on the Mk III. It shouldn't have the damaged chest plate... they should all be in pristine shape. This seems to be out of character for him. However, maybe he left the chest plate damaged for an unrevealed personal reason. Maybe he left it like that on purpose to remind him that he is not invincible or maybe to remind him that Obediah betrayed him and he needs to be more careful about letting something like that happen again. That is the closest he has come to dieing in the films.

Also, I am not sure where I saw this... it could have been in the movie, perhaps some behind the scenes footage, or maybe just a BTS photo but I do remember seeing the crushed helmet at the feet of the Mk III which was on display in his Hall of Armor.
 
darkside501st said:
Also, I am not sure where I saw this... it could have been in the movie, perhaps some behind the scenes footage, or maybe just a BTS photo but I do remember seeing the crushed helmet at the feet of the Mk III which was on display in his Hall of Armor.
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Yes the HOA in IM2 does have the crumpled helmet with the MK3.
 
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