Interesting article on new xbox

The next wave of consoles probably will be download/stream only and with that i'll give up. Then again by then my girlfriend's kid will be 11 or so and probably let me use her system lol. i'm perfectly happy playing my old systems. I got such a backlog of games it ain't funny as it is.
 
cboath said:
Trust me, if the used game stuff on the XB produces for publishers they will force it on sony as well. The only thing that will stop them is being sued. And good luck suing Sony. By joining their network you give up the right to sue and have to go through an arbitrator of their choice.

Similarly, if the used game thing fails for the XB, it'll be abandoned by publishers as well. I believe the design is that used games are legit, unless the publisher's decides to disallow it. If that happens, they can regulate the resale or ban it outright. At this point it's a threat but not a promise. However, it will get used by someone. Interesting to see how it'll work out.
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Yeah, that's about what I see happening with the used game thing. As for Sony's TOS, I would think that only applies to the use of the PS+ service itself, rather than, say, using games on the console. I don't really see what kind of case one would bring for the failure of a used game to work on the console, though. I mean, I get that people would be pissed, but what exactly would be the legal basis for the lawsuit in the first place?

Wes R said:
The next wave of consoles probably will be download/stream only and with that i'll give up. Then again by then my girlfriend's kid will be 11 or so and probably let me use her system lol. i'm perfectly happy playing my old systems. I got such a backlog of games it ain't funny as it is.
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That's what I expect. To be honest, it's not that big a deal on Steam, depending on how you approach it. I buy most of my games a good while after they came out, so my price point averages between $10-20. Which is basically the price of.....a used game. The publishers get a cut, Steam gets a cut, everyone wins.

It's true that they could, at some point, yoink the title and kill my license. But I expect that if this happened too much, there'd be hell to pay from a consumer perspective. Amazon caught some real flak when they yoinked some books off the kindle, even though it was perfectly legal. I would figure that the streaming services (Steam included) would simply want to ensure that the content remains available to their users, rather than actually USING the threat of yoinking someone's games.

The real question, then, becomes a simple matter of price point. I wouldn't pay $50 for too many games anyway, but I almost certainly wouldn't for a streaming game. But for $3-30? Sure, why not?
 
I believe there's a clause in there about offering up your first born as a way of preventing the sharing of games.... You will also need to buy a device that will have a fingerprint reader which will be use for unlocking the system and the use of the controllers. It will also require you to wear a heart rate monitor to ensure you are alive, and someone didn't just cut off your thumb to unlock you system.
 
I can understand if you wanted the system to "check in" as a deterrent for theft, and if the system was stolen, reset, and didn't get your password, it would lock the system...

There was a video with one of the higher up's from XBOX, he basically said "We have a solution for those who lack connectivity, it's called XBOX 360" ....yeah...nice...
 
hansicle said:
I can understand if you wanted the system to "check in" as a deterrent for theft, and if the system was stolen, reset, and didn't get your password, it would lock the system...
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Key word being "wanted". If all of this stuff was optional, no one would be complaining.

The idea of PS+ being required for mutliplayer isn't entirely surprising at this point. It would have been nice, but they probably couldn't keep it up forever. Still, it's better than Xbox Gold.. at least everything else online will be available even without PS+, unlike XBL, where you have to have Gold to use practically anything online. For the more casual single-player crowd (like myself) Sony is still making it an option, not a requirement.
 
It might also be becoming too expensive for sony to keep it all free without bringing in a little cash.
 
Yeah. Those who think MS is going to pull through. You're dead wrong. I've been a gamer since consoles were invented. I've seen all the trends and up's and downs. I've made a prediction and I've been right every single time something like this has happened. The xbox is done. At least this version. I don't think they can make it back the next time. This is interesting.

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I agree MS is going to have trouble with this and i bet as time goes the preorders get canceled. Nintendo needs to get its butt in gear and stop making mistakes or it might be next. Do you have a link to the page where we can vote?
 
"I don't know what it means to be on a nuclear sub."

Seriously? It means the guy's on a nuclear sub. Even without knowing specifics of nuclear subs in particular (even though I think they're the only kind still running these days), you can still gather that the thing's underwater a lot.

So yeah.. all those servicemen overseas, many of whom play games to pass the time, are kinda screwed, aren't they?

Well, good news. There is indeed a products for those people, Don.. it's called Playstation 4.

I still think they're missing the big point, and the big complaint, that most people have about always-online. It's not our internet connection that's in question. It's their servers. Diablo 3 and SimCity aren't the exception for always-online launches.. they're the norm. That's why people are getting all bent out of shape about this. If MS's XBL servers go down, and they will, it means no one in the world can play their Xbox Ones. Whereas at least on PS4, we can still play local offline, no matter which end of the network connection goes down.
 
Taking down toutube channels, so they don't stand by their own comments? MS = BS, TOTAL bs

infymys said:
There's also Xbox Done and Xbox None.
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www.XboxDone.com :thumbsup :D

Wes R said:
To be honest I watched the trailer for halo 5 and was very underwhelmed by it compared to the one for halo 4. Hate to tell MS but i think that franchise is about done. i bet it sells good on PC though.
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They still haven't released Halo 3 on PC and that came out 6 years ago :facepalm
During the Halo 5 teaser I almost yawned, and I've been a HUGE fan since the original. And it seems they are sticking with the crappy redesigned Chief they did for Halo 4 :thumbsdown


Xbox One Pre-Order Product Information - Xbox.com
720p or higher HDMI-compatible TV
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So now they don't even support SD-tv's!
Xbox One-Supported Xbox Live Countries
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That's not a lot of countries
Additional Killer Instinct characters sold separately; requires 4 GB storage
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4 gigs for a few more characters?! Downloaded to a 500GB HDD, wow :lol

infymys said:
XBL Gold at $60 a year lets you play online
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Expensive... a while back I bought two 12 months subscriptions for just $70
 
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