Indiana Jones (Disney+ series)

I didn’t want to give credence to any of these rumors, but that’s god-awful, a real shot to the chest. When will Hollywood learn that this sort of thing has never worked? I’ve deeply enjoyed every film by Mangold I’ve seen, so I had hopes for this movie, but I just don’t see this working out. I sincerely can’t even begin to understand why Lucasfilm/Disney would even want rumors of this being the ending to circulate, let alone decide this was the direction the film/franchise needed to go. Even if this project were totally separate from the execs and it were just Mangold in charge, I don’t see the “Logan” ending working here. Logan was great, but it’s a totally different character.
 
I didn’t want to give credence to any of these rumors, but that’s god-awful, a real shot to the chest. When will Hollywood learn that this sort of thing has never worked? I’ve deeply enjoyed every film by Mangold I’ve seen, so I had hopes for this movie, but I just don’t see this working out. I sincerely can’t even begin to understand why Lucasfilm/Disney would even want rumors of this being the ending to circulate, let alone decide this was the direction the film/franchise needed to go. Even if this project were totally separate from the execs and it were just Mangold in charge, I don’t see the “Logan” ending working here. Logan was great, but it’s a totally different character.

Because in 2022 you cannot have a male lead or you're a horrible misogynist! If it is real and was released, it would be fanbaiting, where studios release information and then when the fans hate it they can come out and tell how toxic the fans are and not to listen to the criticism.
 

I am pumped for this!

From the makers of The Book of Boba Fett…

The Diary of Indiana Jones
would be the perfect title.

Perhaps Indy sleeps in a bathtub filled with water from the Holy Grail and is routinely regenerated and given abnormally long life…stretching into our modern era?!?! I’m giddy with the possibility.

Indy and the descendent of Sallah take over the castle once owned by that most infamous of the archeology black market profiteers—Belloq! He and the descendent of Sallah rule the entire archeology black market, but with the intent to “rule with respect and not fear”…

Perhaps Indy will be played by a Harrison Ford impersonator who is not so much a professional actor, but can give a passable performance more along the lines of a stand-up routine that can normally only be a part of an evening’s talent show vs. carrying an entire series or movie? I would like to see that challenge accepted—more than that; I demand it!

Perhaps Mutt Williams will return, complete with a gang of street toughs who ride shiney classic vespas?

(Mutt’s new ride, below: )

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I’m so in!

Take my money now, Disney!
 
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If it is real and was released, it would be fanbaiting, where studios release information and then when the fans hate it they can come out and tell how toxic the fans are and not to listen to the criticism.
Assuming legitimate reporting, this does strike me at least at first-impression as rather suspiciously intentional...

Correct me if this happened, but can you imagine if a studio source had leaked comparable details to the media about filmed endings of, say, the Star Wars sequel trilogy or the Avengers series - let alone eight months in advance and even preceding the first trailer release?

Very strange. Barring a crewmember willing to risk some serious wrath, this feels like insecurity on the part of Disney itself about their own product.

Edit: OR, as more official quotes are suggesting, perhaps more likely that it's simply not legitimate reporting.
 
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I am pumped for this!

From the makers of The Book of Boba Fett…

The Diary of Indiana Jones
would be the perfect title. Perhaps Indy sleeps in a bath tub filled with water from the Holy Grail and is routinely regenerated and given abnormally long life…stretching into our modern era?!?! I’m giddy with the possibility. He and the descendent of Sallah take over the castle once owned by archeology black market profiteer—Belloq! He and the descendent of Sallah rule the entire archeology black market, but with the intent to “rule with respect and not fear”…

Perhaps he will be played by a Harrison Ford impersonator who is not so much a professional actor, but can give a performance more along the lines of a stand-up “impressions routine” that can normally be a part of an evening’s talent show vs. carrying an entire series? I would like to see that challenge accepted—more than that; I demand it!

Perhaps Mutt Williams will return, complete with a gang of street toughs who ride shiney classic vespas?

(Mutt’s new ride, below:)

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I’m so in!

Take my money now, Disney!

Can you put all that into a spoiler tag so Disney can't read it? Would be greatly appreciated.
 
Unfortunately an in house intellectual property with a built in multi generational fan base exists free of charge. If it's putting out milk it will be milked. Then when it's no longer viable for milk it will be slaughtered and sold off as bits to those starving for more. Until recent times that's not been a set forth goal. Seems the new avatar movies will be the next example of multi generational targetket marketing. One that's planned as opposed to realised. Possibly the first of its kind as I dont recall any franchise prior having that plan from the gate. If it does well in ten years you'll likely have an avatar TV series...
 
Through the use of time travel, Phoebe Waller-Bridge is sent back to the original Raiders of the Lost Ark movie and replaces Indiana where Indy weighs the sack of dirt against the gold statue at the first of the movie and replaying out the entire escape sequence. Thus not only taking over the franchise at the beginning but negating all the previous Indiana Jones films in what is sure to be a fan pleasing Rey Skywalker moment.
 
Through the use of time travel, Phoebe Waller-Bridge is sent back to the original Raiders of the Lost Ark movie and replaces Indiana where Indy weighs the sack of dirt against the gold statue at the first of the movie and replaying out the entire escape sequence. Thus not only taking over the franchise at the beginning but negating all the previous Indiana Jones films in what is sure to be a fan pleasing Rey Skywalker moment.

Ordinarily, I would say “that’s so dumb it HAS to be true” but, in this case, that is so beyond the seemingly bottomless limits of stupidity that I can’t believe that rumor.
 
Yeah, that was my reaction when the rumor first appeared a few months ago. It seems implausible even for the Kennedy administration at LFL. It reads more like internet troll material than something a major studio would do with a valuable franchise.

But, I don't know anymore. A decade ago I thought Kathleen Kennedy seemed like a good choice to take over LFL. Since then I've been surprised by the amateurish management over and over again.


Whatever, though. At this point I'm in favor of ANYTHING that gets different people running LFL. Part of the problem is that KK's management has never been quite bad enough to force Disney to replace her. I'm ready for it to end even if it means some garbage shows have to get made.

Look at Ghostbusters. For all the grief that Sony got over the 2016 SNL reboot, I'm glad it happened. Sony got all of their worst rebooting urges out of their system at once. After the smoke cleared they only had one option left for their next attempt - go the other direction and respect the old franchise. Today the 2016 reboot is in the $5 bin at Walmart and the Reitman reboot has taken over in the public's mind.

Lucasfilm has spent the last decade with one leg on each side. The stuff is disappointing but it keeps making just enough money to limp along year after year. If Kennedy had made a few uncompromising trainwrecks right out of the gate then she would have been replaced already.
 
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I'm going to try to avoid reading additional detail (at least beyond what's oddly getting published by the news), but just wanted to say thanks for adding the tags - much appreciated.
 
Through the use of time travel, Phoebe Waller-Bridge is sent back to the original Raiders of the Lost Ark movie and replaces Indiana where Indy weighs the sack of dirt against the gold statue at the first of the movie and replaying out the entire escape sequence. Thus not only taking over the franchise at the beginning but negating all the previous Indiana Jones films in what is sure to be a fan pleasing Rey Skywalker moment.
While I hadn't heard about that specific location/event, it wouldn't surprise me if even 10% of the rumors about KK are true. It would also be one of the single most damning events in pop culture history.

I wonder where Ford is in all of this. Usually, he gives off an air of not really caring too much, just being there to do the work he's paid for, but unless I'm remembering incorrectly, Indy is one of the characters he truly cares about. If there's one actor on the planet who has a say in what happens to his character, it would be Ford. Would he be content with leaving behind the legacy in that rumor?

Not that I'm counting on it, but part of me still hopes that The Mouse has learned a thing or two from the debacle that is Rings of Power, and the reaction to the last episode of The Mandalorian S2. If only to keep the shareholders happy. At least Sony did with "Answer the Call" and now they're on their way to revitalizing the Ghostbusters franchise. But who knows.

But, I don't know anymore. A decade ago I thought Kathleen Kennedy seemed like a good choice to take over LFL. Since then I've been surprised by the amateurish management over and over again.
Same here. Who else could take over but the producer who has been there since the beginning, personally chosen by the man himself. It should have been great. Turns out George got a knife in the back before he even left the ranch. I've been on the receiving end of having an enormous labor of work (loved by the audience) be taken over and essentially spit on and put in a wood chipper. It wasn't fun, so I can just imagine how Lucas might feel. But perhaps KK wants to be remembered with hatred rather than love and admiration.

Create new heroes, don't disgrace or denigrate the old ones. Let them fight side-by side as equals (after a suitable apprenticeship period for the newbs of course). Bring in a multitude of ethnicites and sexes in your cast, absolutely, but don't bloody wrap the story around that fact or blare about it like a cracked trumpet. Don't pander to the 10% Twitter crowd who are not that many and, in all honestly, irrelevant to both civilization and pop culture in the grand scheme of things, all things considered.
 
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