Hero trooper helmets...Green vs smoke tinted
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Star Wars Helmets
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AWESOME!thumbsup
:lol :lol :lol
Tricloudwalker - I love your line "there is no black, it doesnt exist" , its like a line out of a David Lynch movie. Very interesting post but waaaaaay to deep for me sans half a bottle of Jack.
Cheers
Jez
ps great grab Superrune. No probs bro!
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defstartrooper
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No im not trolling and i dont really appreciate that comment.
if you read my post i said i am not denying anything i just said that the screencap evidence isnt completely conclusive i think that is a reasonable comment.
What will it take to convince me ? well then go back a couple of posts where i said that i think the screencap evidence is now exhausted and ask if there is any other evidence available anywhere possibly.
Contrary ?
if you read my post i said i am not denying anything i just said that the screencap evidence isnt completely conclusive i think that is a reasonable comment.
What will it take to convince me ? well then go back a couple of posts where i said that i think the screencap evidence is now exhausted and ask if there is any other evidence available anywhere possibly.
Contrary ?
Star Wars Helmets
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I think its certainly very interesting information, and certainly contributes to the debate. If you're asking me do I think they're Grey or Green I honestly dont know. I suppose I've not seen enough either way to make a decision.
However there's no rush. After all there were 6 Hero's made and we've only found one so far - and interesting information has a knack of revealing itself when you least expect it.
Cheers
Jez
Brinn 71
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Hey Jez, do you think that maybe the Jedi helmets were made with green ANH hero style lenses because they were based on the ANH hero helmets? I'm sold on the GREEN!
And yeah, everything is a sickly green looking through those bulbous things!
Trust in Mark.
Cheers mate!
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BactaReality
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Haha, c'mon Jez, this is a bit more than just interesting information. We're talking about conclusive photographic evidence. This is not some ghost hunt where we're looking at manipulated photography. I can understand that over the years this debate has had plenty of reasons to think otherwise, but one thing we didn't have until recently is a DVD of the original film. That alone is the the reason why this has had such a difficult time being decided. I can also understand why some of you guys just don't want to say anything for fear of looking like a fool, but I assure you it's worse to deny conclusive photographic evidence and eye witness accounts(MH). So now it's time to turn the tables and definitively state for the record that these lenses were green, until someone can provide information that proves otherwise, this issue has just been tucked in for bed.
Oh, and I still haven't heard that legit reason why we all should dismiss Mark's comment.
robstyle
Master Member
You crazy kids,
y'all know its a movie right, lol
Has anyone here even seen how many colors that material comes in? Ive seen green as black as space until a super bright light is on it. You figure if these helmet lenses were changed out on set, as it may seem to have been, the person who chose the color did so based on their color/film/lighting knowledge. The color change may not have been just to hide the skin/eyes of the actors underneath, it may have also been to detour reflections.
y'all know its a movie right, lol
Has anyone here even seen how many colors that material comes in? Ive seen green as black as space until a super bright light is on it. You figure if these helmet lenses were changed out on set, as it may seem to have been, the person who chose the color did so based on their color/film/lighting knowledge. The color change may not have been just to hide the skin/eyes of the actors underneath, it may have also been to detour reflections.
Man, that's a stretch. I hear what you're saying, but c'mon, enough with the theories guys, just let it go, it's green, nuff said.
What stretch? I wasn't saying it was one color or another. I was merely pointing out that photographic evidence cannot always be accurate, especially when it comes to dark colors.
If you want to hear my actual opinion on the topic, I happen to think they're green. Hell, the Batmobile from the first Burton film was a very very very dark green, but that looked black...as it was supposed to.
BactaReality
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Like I stated earlier, I know and understand the concepts you discussed quite clearly, and agree with you for the most part, but I just felt that applying those possibilities for inaccuracies was a bit stretched when applied to the subject at hand. It would be less of a stretch if you had an example where translucent or transparent material reflected light inaccurately, that's all. I apologize if I came across as insulting, I always try to make my point without getting long winded. I guess if I'd had taken the time to explain myself better I would'nt have to be apologizing for it later.
Ah, no worries, mate. I get ya now. Maybe my little science class wasn't completely appropriate for the topic, but I found it had at least a little merit and was worth bringing up for discussion. It wasn't meant to sway one color for another. Just a little more spice and dimention to add to the mix.
I must say, though, that the green backed grey idea is intriguing. If the lenses absolutely turned out not to be green, than this has got to be the answer. It's also possible that a few Hero helmets did infact have grey because maybe they ran out of the green, or vise versa. That does happen from time to time, especially in low budget movies such as this. Same reason not all the E-11s had the same scope.
They made the lenses out of ducks? That doesn't seem to fit the bill. I think you're a quack.
Star Wars Helmets
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But what colour is the duck, white, light grey, cream :lol
Seriously guys I think some people can maybe get a little over zealous. Like I previously said it is very interesting information, but then there's some other information out there (not all of which is in the public domain), which contradicts.
If you guys are happy to go with green based on the screen grabs then thats cool. However some of us maybe want to do a little more digging around before we draw a line under the issue
Cheers
Jez
defstartrooper
Sr Member
Yep definitely green but they are all flat green stunt helmet lenses it's the hero helmet bubble lenses that are disputed
Gotcha, I'm just wondering why they would use a different lense color on the flat as opposed to the bubble. It would be logical (and I use that term loosely in the SW universe) to use the same color material.
BactaReality
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Ahem, uh, you mean undisputed? :lol hehe
Actually I'm glad that lambotour posted those images because it is just further evidence in favor of green bubble lenses. How, you ask? Well, they reveal a consistency with the areas of the lenses that are being illuminated, and it shows that they have the same characteristics as the bubble lenses. The brightest areas of the lens are the same in both hero and stunt. Outside of being slightly greener, they look exactly the same as bubble lenses.
I guess in case some of you still don't follow, think of it this way, if the green hue that we see in the bubble lenses is only due to the films inability to capture a true black, then we'd see a certain consistency throughout the entire lens, and not just in the lighter areas.
Actually I'm glad that lambotour posted those images because it is just further evidence in favor of green bubble lenses. How, you ask? Well, they reveal a consistency with the areas of the lenses that are being illuminated, and it shows that they have the same characteristics as the bubble lenses. The brightest areas of the lens are the same in both hero and stunt. Outside of being slightly greener, they look exactly the same as bubble lenses.
I guess in case some of you still don't follow, think of it this way, if the green hue that we see in the bubble lenses is only due to the films inability to capture a true black, then we'd see a certain consistency throughout the entire lens, and not just in the lighter areas.
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defstartrooper
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Yeah thats true you would think it would be logical although im not sure if any of the lenses flat or bubble were intended to appear green on screen the vast majority of people who dont scrutinise these things and just watch the movie would probably say stormtroopers have black eyes if asked.
It would be interesting to find out if there is any paperwork with a request for green lenses or a decription provided to the prop maker or art dept describing stormtroopers as having green eyes or black eyes.
It would be interesting to find out if there is any paperwork with a request for green lenses or a decription provided to the prop maker or art dept describing stormtroopers as having green eyes or black eyes.
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