Hellboy Costume - Complete!

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Did you use a mould release? If not that's why it stuck. Smooth on make a mother mould fibrous resin that is much easier to use than a fiberglass jacket. It's fast setting too.....

Yes, I used mold release. I suspect what happened was I used too much polyfiber and it made it brittle.

In any event, it is currently in the studio curing. I ended up epoxying all the pieces back together, then I added a layer of resin, a layer of fiberglass cloth, and a thickened layer of resin. Tomorrow I will clean up the edges, assemble the whole thing, and see how things line up.

Wednesday I am ordering all the casting supplies!
 
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Man I am loving this, I would love a Silicone Hellboy mask, he's one of my favorite movie characters.
 
Re: Hellboy Costume - Molding in process!

Mold is all fixed! The fiberglass cloth did the trick. Tomorrow I am ordering all the casting supplies! I'll be casting in Plat-Sil Gel 10 with Fuse FX pigment.
 
Re: Hellboy Costume - Molding is complete!

Got the vacuum chamber and pump to degas the silicone! Silicone is showing up tomorrow, and then I will just be waiting on the pigments to arrive!
 
Re: Hellboy Costume - Molding is complete!

This evening I started playing around with the silicone and pigments, making sure that when I go full-scale, that the color will be correct. So far, I'm having mixed results. The color is suspending nicely in the silicone, but it's far too pink. I'm waiting to hear back from Fuse FX to see what I'm doing wrong. So casting will be on hold until I solve this problem.

I'm just glad I did a test pour before filling my mold with pink silicone. Although my fiance thinks it would be a lovely color for Hellboy...if I wore assless chaps.
 
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I believe you can use oil based paints to tint your silicone, I read that on the FX's forum. Might want to give it a shot with a small amount and see if it cures properly if your feeling like experimenting. :)
 
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I believe you can use oil based paints to tint your silicone, I read that on the FX's forum. Might want to give it a shot with a small amount and see if it cures properly if your feeling like experimenting. :)

That's not a bad idea. I have some fresh oil based paints here. It's worth a shot!
 
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Just added some oil paint to my silicone. The color is FANTASTIC! Now we'll see what happens when it comes to curing, and whether there is any residual paint smell.
 
Re: Hellboy Costume - Molding is complete!

It took a lot longer to cure, but it definitely cured!

Here's the difference in color. The piece on the left is using Fuse FX F-Series pigment, and the piece on the right is using oil paint. I mixed the oil paint too dark for this experiment. If I end up using this to cast it, then I'll keep it a lot lighter.
 
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Have you asked Fettster what he used for his? His colour is spot on.
 
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Your sculpt and progress are amazing! So spot on! The red colour with the oil paint is looking great too. Can't wait to see more progress :]
 
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Good deal on it curing proper. :) Can you add a little platcat to it? Or are you using something other than Smooth on? If you are whatever they use to speed up the cure you could add a touch to offset the slower cure. Mind you in a cored mold might not be a bad idea to let it cure slower, let it air out a bit longer might help.

It took a lot longer to cure, but it definitely cured!

Here's the difference in color. The piece on the left is using Fuse FX F-Series pigment, and the piece on the right is using oil paint. I mixed the oil paint too dark for this experiment. If I end up using this to cast it, then I'll keep it a lot lighter.
 
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Good deal on it curing proper. :) Can you add a little platcat to it? Or are you using something other than Smooth on? If you are whatever they use to speed up the cure you could add a touch to offset the slower cure. Mind you in a cored mold might not be a bad idea to let it cure slower, let it air out a bit longer might help.

Actually, it's a good thing! I'm using PlatSil Gel 10, and out of the bottle it cures in 6 minutes, which is way too fast to degas it. I will be slowing it even further by adding retarder to the mix. My only concern with using oil to color it is that it had an odor when I pulled it from the cup this morning. I will wash it with soap and water when I get home and see if that solves it. Otherwise it will be back to the drawing board.
 
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Oil based paint is a no-go. The smell isn't improving.

Just for the heck of it (and because I like not listening to manufacturers instructions), I added some acrylic to a test batch. All the manufacturers say that acrylic will inhibit the cure and ruin the batch. Not only did it not inhibit the cure, it didn't even slow it down! And the color is PERFECT, and it has no odor. Plus acrylic is skin-safe.

I think I've found my pigment.
 
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They would be referring to acrylic latex, plat silicone will not dry in the presence of latex. I'm sure you most likely used Acrylic enamel or Acrylic lacquer?
 
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They would be referring to acrylic latex, plat silicone will not dry in the presence of latex. I'm sure you most likely used Acrylic enamel or Acrylic lacquer?

I'm not entirely sure. The tube doesn't say anything other than "acrylic".

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Vacuum chamber is built, and it works like a charm! It takes about 15-20 seconds to generate enough vacuum that the lid starts to bow in. This should work nicely for degassing the silicone prior to pouring.

I'm expecting to be making the first casting within the next few days. For real this time!
 
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The lid starts to bow in? I would be very careful about that. You really need a good inch thick lid. If the lid starts to bow in there is a great danger of it shattering under the vacuum. You really don't want that to happen I have heard some nightmare stories about injuries caused from imploding lids....... just my 2c worth from a concerned fellow member.....
My lid is about an inch and a half and there is no way that is going anywhere..... It doesnt bow at all even at 30bar.
 
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This may be a little off topic but the make a wish foundation called the people who did the hell boy series and asked them if they could get in touch with Ron perlman who played Hellboy to visit a sick child in the hospital... Apparently, the child's favourite comic book character is Hellboy.... so not only did he visit the child, but in full make-up and costume...He brought the Samaritan the whole kit and kabuttel any way he stayed in character the whole time and blew the little guys mind... they did a photo shoot with the little guy and put him in make up like Hellboy.... anyway, nice story thought i would share....here is the link....
Ron Perlman visits makes a wish come true as Hellboy | Sympatico.ca inMovies.ca
 
Re: Hellboy Costume - Getting ready to make the first cast! - pg 4

I have seen that. Ron is awesome!

So this evening I took a look at my liquid injection pump that I was going to use to cast the mask, and decided it really wasn't big enough to do the job. A trip to Home Depot later, and I had all the parts I needed to make my own supersize one.

(purchased pump is in the front)
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I began by cutting a piece off the main body, and I filled it with urethane rubber and put it in the vacuum chamber. It gave me a chance to test it out. While it worked pretty well, I think I'd like to do as sskunky suggested and put a thicker lid on it, but I don't think there's enough room to do so with the clamps that are permanently attached to the body. I'll have to do some thinking on that one. If I do decide to go that route, I've already sourced a 1" thick piece of acrylic.

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While the rubber was curing, I began working on the tip. I used a brass fitting that would attach to the hose I'm using. The other end of the hose will attach to an identical brass fitting inside the core of the mold. I have several vent holes at the top of the core to allow air to escape, and when the silicone reaches those holes, I will insert plugs into them and keep the entire mold under pressure while it cures.

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When the rubber had cured enough to demold it, I pulled it out and checked the fit. I ended up having to trim it down a bit on the sides, because when the carriage bolt that runs through it is tightened, it squeezes out on the sides. But after trimming, it still provides are really tight fit! I'll have to add a thin layer of Johnson's Paste Wax to the edges, and give the inside of the gun a good waxing.

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Next I assembled the plunger. Pretty straightforward here. Just a PVC pipe (sealed on the bottom) attached to a T junction.

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And there you have it! It cost me about $20 and an hour or so to make.

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Tomorrow's plan is to give the rubber mold and core a thorough cleaning, and then I'll be assembling the mold in preparation for casting!
 
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