Has anyone seen this? (TOS Spock ears)

[Apollo]

Thanks for the info. Steve I never knew you were asked to copy Johnnys sculpts I thought you just did your own close fan obssesed version of it. :lol

You did Johnny proud! :thumbsup

Funny thing the Nimoy ears I got from you fit me almost like a glove, while the ears you did that were reusable don't fit as well.

Regardless for those who don't have them Steves ears are must-haves for any TOS collector

 

[Linnear]

First, thank you Steve for chiming in. Much appreciated. Doug Drexler, the consignor of those ears is a very good friend of mine.

TheWhoteGrail, I take great offense when someone has a question and automatically assumes we are "ripping someone off". And yes, that is what you accused us of. Do you even know who we are, and what my personal experience is in Star Trek? Maybe do a little research and ask questions before making accusations.

If there is a misidentification, don't automatically assume someone is trying to rip someone off. WHen I identified that Profiles in History was selling a non-screen used Jem'Hadar ship model as the real thing, I did my research and then posted about it, NEVER accusing Profiles of trying to "rip someone off". Sloppy work? yes. Fraud? No.

And of course, you never bothered to contact me.

Second, the provenance on the ears is IRON CLAD. The daughter of the TOS Make-up artist to Doug Drexler, an art director and make-up supervoisor on Star Trek for 17 years and one of the foremost experts on TOS out there.

There are two ways to ensure a prop is real. Screen matching or provenance. In this case, provenance is proof and as attested to by an authority.

Is there a chance that these are TMP ears that Fred mis-identified as TOS ears? Sure. But we can only go by what he noted.

And as Steve states, screen matching isn't fool proof here due to the age and nature of latex.

Oh and finally, here is my blog. The # 1 blog on Star Trek props & costumes.

The Star Trek Prop, Costume & Auction Blog

Alec Peters
Propworx

 

[Apollo]

Alec next time I want to see you wearing those Museum white gloves when you are showing off the goods!

 

[TheWhiteGrail]

First, thank you Steve for chiming in. Much appreciated. Doug Drexler, the consignor of those ears is a very good friend of mine.

TheWhoteGrail, I take great offense when someone has a question and automatically assumes we are "ripping someone off". And yes, that is what you accused us of. Do you even know who we are, and what my personal experience is in Star Trek? Maybe do a little research and ask questions before making accusations.

If there is a misidentification, don't automatically assume someone is trying to rip someone off. WHen I identified that Profiles in History was selling a non-screen used Jem'Hadar ship model as the real thing, I did my research and then posted about it, NEVER accusing Profiles of trying to "rip someone off". Sloppy work? yes. Fraud? No.

And of course, you never bothered to contact me.

Second, the provenance on the ears is IRON CLAD. The daughter of the TOS Make-up artist to Doug Drexler, an art director and make-up supervoisor on Star Trek for 17 years and one of the foremost experts on TOS out there.

There are two ways to ensure a prop is real. Screen matching or provenance. In this case, provenance is proof and as attested to by an authority.

Is there a chance that these are TMP ears that Fred mis-identified as TOS ears? Sure. But we can only go by what he noted.

And as Steve states, screen matching isn't fool proof here due to the age and nature of latex.

Oh and finally, here is my blog. The # 1 blog on Star Trek props & costumes.

The Star Trek Prop, Costume & Auction Blog

Alec Peters
Propworx

Sure, I shouldn't have typed "ripped off" as that carries some negative connotations, please believe me that none were intended. It's a simple observation on my part, and I'm not intending to 'accuse' anyone. And yes, I have done some research into the origins of these props and you cannot assume that what you 'see' on these boards in all I've done. Although what you can see shows simple comparisons to various props and I agree, visual evidence alone is not enough and there is also some paper pushing and personal correspondence involved (some of which I have done).
All in all it's just an opinion that I have and I'm welcome to it, it is not my intention to flame anyone but to me they look like they're from TMP and not TOS.

To conclude; I believe the props in question are the exact same as these, seen in the three pictures below, sculpted and featured (only) in about the last half of TMP. I firmly believe that they are not from TOS.
Here are some detailed pictures that you can compare and draw your own conclusions from. (If you want to visit the link to see where I got them from, please see half way down the page)

Star Trek Prop, Costume & Auction Authority: Spock Ears

Again, I want to make it very clear that I'm not trying to undermine the integrity of what I believe (propworx) to be a trustworthy and great source for props. I'm truly sorry if it came off that way.

Scott.

 

[Apollo]

:lol Of course you are welcome to your opinion but with you posting THAT link it is certainly not a very informed one :lol

No offense but you are a little out of your depth here

Star Trek Prop, Costume & Auction Authority: Spock Ears

 

[TheWhiteGrail]

No offence taken, Apollo.

I've created my own reference picture, with Propworx ears on the left, TOS ears in the middle and TMP ears on the right. Notice that left and right ears are identical, whereas the midde TOS ears feature very different dimensions.
Sure throughout the three seasons of TOS there were different ears, but none had that smaller, sweptback 'Motion Picture' look that we see throughout the last half of the first movie.