Harrison and Shia go on record: The last Indy movie DID suck!
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Three other actors have played Indy. TV and film.
So others have been Indy.
It's about Indiana Jones, not the Harrison Ford geriatric adventures.
That is so far away from what the first film is it's not even funny.
Either let it die or restart with the character in his prime in the proper era with the proper storys that apply.
Everyone says oh they can never top Raiders.
Well maybe someone should try. At least try.
Or is it four actors?
Wasn't there a kid Indy on TV?
Wasn't there a kid Indy on TV?
Crystal Skull is unwatchable. Giant ants, monkeys, praire dogs, Shia dressed like the greatest actor that ever walked the planet from a film that defined cool (Brando), giving definitions for quicksand, mutt's spread-eagle swordfight, Marion driving the car boat into a car catching tree to be lowered into 3 gigantic waterfalls that everyone walks away from -- and of course Nuke Proof fridge -- there was no believeability at all in that stupid film. I can understand some here confusing it with a good movie simply out of their overwhelming love for the main character, but to me no Indy would have been better than this movie. plus Lucas literally ripped apart four or five or five of the best writers in the business trying to make his stupid movie (that's the difference between an actor speaking up and a writer - a writer gets fired because he is standing up BEFORE it gets bad - Shia is only speking up now because his residuals are slowing down. It's too late Nickelodian - Before you took out money Speilberg was saying how you were the next Tom Hanks - now we know you are just the next Jan Michael Vincent - maybe.
EvilRocketeer
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Nothing is dumber than seeing mutt swing like tarzan with monkies...That takes the cake
Egon Spengler
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TOD was a million times better than Crystal Skull
As long as you dont believe in God he can't hurt you - didn't you ever see Eric the Viking?
sorry - but that fridge is famously stupid.
And with Crystal Skull, Temple of Doom is also the most unique story of the whole bunch.
Qui-Gonzalez
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Only because people have been blinded by the pure cheese in the other Indy flicks because we grew up with them. Come on, ripping out hearts by chanting "Kali-maaaaa...Kali-maaaaaa!"...really? And you guys are put off by the fridge? Or how about falling from a crashing plane in an inflatable raft and surviving, then sledding in that same raft down a mountain and falling a few hundred feet in a waterfall...and surviving. Really rose colored lenses we wear.
Amen to all you said, CD.
Remember the Lucas/Spielberg planning bull session tapes/transcripts that came out a couple of years ago? They were talking out Indy's character and backstory. And it was DARK. Remember Marion's "you knew I was too young!"? They were talking twelve or thirteen too young.
70s-era Lucas and Spielberg were just plain different animals from today's versions.
Q-G, I don't really like either TOD or LC. TOD because it was uber-cheesey and I didn't really care for any of the characters, or the outcome for that matter. As for why I don't like Last Crusade, it would take me a day to write it up in full, there are plenty of reasons not to love it - but in a word: CHEAP.
However, of all the daft stuff, the things I give a pass to are the ones where religion or the supernatural is involved. That's core, and I'll take any amount of living heart removals over even ONE life-raft parachute ride or nuke-shelter fridge. I don't ask much - just give me some thin thread of an excuse. Unfortunately, we're asked to believe those things happen without supernatural intervention, and it destroys your suspension of disbelief. Even the producers of the new Doctor Who series know better than that. Many of their explanations are idiotic, but at least they recognise the need to have them.
Solo - like you, I'll never know for sure re Indy IV and am happy to keep it that way.
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Qui-Gonzalez
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Walkie-talkies for guns different.
Yeah, I almost went there too. Solo shot first different.
I mean, Indy at the start of Raiders is the same creature that Solo is at the start of Star Wars: ruthless, amoral, out for himself - glory either financial or academic, it doesn't matter. Girl students show open interest in him and you don't get the impression he's all THAT uncomfortable with it. He may have begun the process of reform but there's a reason Abner Ravenwood took his daughter literally as far away as he could get from Jones. The guy was bad news.
By the end of the movie he's found much more of a moral compass. He's been thrown up against TRUE evil and realizes he doesn't much like it. He's still fighting for himself and people close to him but he's back on a better path, no question.
But is he an angel now? Hardly, but in the next movie - set two years earlier!! - he's a unilateral, unidimensional good guy suddenly. Damn it, I'd have had scenes in Shanghai where he was making out with a hooker and taking drugs, or something. Or better still, just not made a prequel.
Third film, don't even get me started...
I mean, Indy at the start of Raiders is the same creature that Solo is at the start of Star Wars: ruthless, amoral, out for himself - glory either financial or academic, it doesn't matter. Girl students show open interest in him and you don't get the impression he's all THAT uncomfortable with it. He may have begun the process of reform but there's a reason Abner Ravenwood took his daughter literally as far away as he could get from Jones. The guy was bad news.
By the end of the movie he's found much more of a moral compass. He's been thrown up against TRUE evil and realizes he doesn't much like it. He's still fighting for himself and people close to him but he's back on a better path, no question.
But is he an angel now? Hardly, but in the next movie - set two years earlier!! - he's a unilateral, unidimensional good guy suddenly. Damn it, I'd have had scenes in Shanghai where he was making out with a hooker and taking drugs, or something. Or better still, just not made a prequel.
Third film, don't even get me started...
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Qui-Gonzalez
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Funny how people can excuse Spielberg that..."correction", eh?
Prop Collector
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