HAPPY 30th ANNIVERSARY ESB!!!
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OldKen
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I got him to try his first sip of shine. :angel
I've had lunch and dinner with he and his wife a few times. A truly great guy.
I also got to tell Mr. Kershner that he made the best star wars movie happen and thanked him when we picked him up from the airport. I think I was more fanboy with him than any of the actors I've met/know.
ESB was deffinately my favorite HANDS DOWN as a kid... luke finally got to use his saber! The walkers, boba fett, and of course all the different scenery. The music at the end still makes me feel like I want to cry though I dont know why... as a musician its the stuff dreams are made of! :cool
ANH though as an adult just seems to stick more with me, and gives me that nostalgia feeling. It is a solid stand alone IMHO as where empire is the most kickarse sequel OF ALL TIME. :thumbsup
HAPPY BERFDAY ESB! :love
firebladejedi
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Darkturbo04
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I agree with Gino about the musical score. Its my favorite out of the original trilogy. I love ESB because of Han Solo's reply to Leia saying "I love you" HE SAID "I know". Damn! I can't wait to say that to the next girl that says that to me 
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oldzey
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Goosebump factor - 5 stars:
AT-AT walkers first appearing on horizon through macros (and all non-CGI special effects used)
Never tell me the odds...
Luminous being are we...
He's no use to me dead...
I love you... I know...
Search your feelings, you know it to be true...
Ben... why didn't you tell me?
Try to explain (if you can) why it is not.
Can't
DivineHeresy
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Amen to that.
itsalive
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Yoda, Yoda, Yoda, Yoda, and Stuart Freeborn, and Frank Oz and Wendy Froud, and the Jim Henson created muppet like study Yoda puppet which there are so very few images of, and Nick Maley, and Dave Barclay, and Yoda, Yoda, Yoda, Yoda..
Yes worship this film I do, mainly the Yod's.
Yes worship this film I do, mainly the Yod's.
CTF
Sr Member
Yeah, same here (especially when I can't stand watching the next one).
I can see why people love it, though.
Hands down best lightsaber fight in any SW movie. Longer and more intense then ANH, more action then ROTJ- any more heart then the PT duels.
People talk about the EP3 duel but it's nothing compared to Luke vs Vader in ESB.
People talk about the EP3 duel but it's nothing compared to Luke vs Vader in ESB.
Qui-Gonzalez
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When 30 years old you reach, look as good you will not.
For me, that's what made it the best movie in the trilogy, the fact that it DIDN'T have a conclusion.
The movies that really stand out to me as being great don't like the first Matrix movie or Fellowship of the Ring...I like when we as the audience has to fill in some of what might happen, makes it more real to me...I could just be nuts...:lol
ESB best in the series for me, followed closely by ANH
When that taun taun runs across the screen in the opening, I about wet my 12 year old pants!
my $.02
brad
CTF
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The Matrix works perfectly as a standalone movie.
Squall67584
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I get into this discussion with a friend of mine all the time. He likes ROTJ more, but I'm all about ESB. While the ending is open what with Han and all, it still feels like it came to a conclusion because of all the other story plots that were concluded, which were Luke's Jedi training and Darth Vader's mission about Luke (not to mention the most epic story twist of all time) and the escape of the Rebels.
I think it's these other resolved plots within the film that give it the ability to stand on its own as the middle movie. However, very few trilogies share this; mainly the Matrix and Pirates of the Carribean trilogy. Those two series' middle movies don't feel complete because they don't seem to do anything other than introduce new villians. Those two have to be viewed with their 3rd part just to make it seem like a single story, unlike ESB.
While ANH ended in a way where it could be viewed as a stand alone story (and with the two examples I used, their first movies are stand alone as well), the sequel picked up in a manner that worked. It made sense that the Empire would return to Yavin IV and drive the Rebels off of their base after the first movie, and that they would then set up another hidden base while the Empire pursued them. But with the other series, mainly the matrix, it didn't flow as well with all of that business with those other "programs" with the names I can't remember right now, and the odd loops that Neo had to go through just to get to the credits and a three month pause until the story could be completed. True, Empire ended in a way that made you want to see the next part, but the general feeling from the movie is that you watched a complete cinematic experience, and not just a half that would be completed later.
Kreshner did a great job with this movie, and I wish that he would have been able to direct the entire prequel trilogy. Now that would have been something to see!
I think it's these other resolved plots within the film that give it the ability to stand on its own as the middle movie. However, very few trilogies share this; mainly the Matrix and Pirates of the Carribean trilogy. Those two series' middle movies don't feel complete because they don't seem to do anything other than introduce new villians. Those two have to be viewed with their 3rd part just to make it seem like a single story, unlike ESB.
While ANH ended in a way where it could be viewed as a stand alone story (and with the two examples I used, their first movies are stand alone as well), the sequel picked up in a manner that worked. It made sense that the Empire would return to Yavin IV and drive the Rebels off of their base after the first movie, and that they would then set up another hidden base while the Empire pursued them. But with the other series, mainly the matrix, it didn't flow as well with all of that business with those other "programs" with the names I can't remember right now, and the odd loops that Neo had to go through just to get to the credits and a three month pause until the story could be completed. True, Empire ended in a way that made you want to see the next part, but the general feeling from the movie is that you watched a complete cinematic experience, and not just a half that would be completed later.
Kreshner did a great job with this movie, and I wish that he would have been able to direct the entire prequel trilogy. Now that would have been something to see!
anakin
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Great Thread Gino
(ANH AND ROTJ) - ESB = my childhood = wondrous imagination = that great feeling of anticipation ( whether is was for ROTJ or the coming Christmas/ Birthdays and ESB toys) = pretending to be Han in the school yard as winter fell and we built caves to mimic Hoth. ESB in 1980 was quintessential in spurring my friends and mine imagination.
Happy Birthday ESB ( a little ahead but deserved nonetheless )
Far...far......FAR from being accurate or complete but my homage to the Vader in ESB
(ANH AND ROTJ) - ESB = my childhood = wondrous imagination = that great feeling of anticipation ( whether is was for ROTJ or the coming Christmas/ Birthdays and ESB toys) = pretending to be Han in the school yard as winter fell and we built caves to mimic Hoth. ESB in 1980 was quintessential in spurring my friends and mine imagination.
Happy Birthday ESB ( a little ahead but deserved nonetheless )
Far...far......FAR from being accurate or complete
but my homage to the Vader in ESB
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andyg
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It would defintely be a toss-up for me between ANH and ESB, but I think I have to lean more towards ANH for a few reasons.
One being, as some have stated, It's more of a complete and stand alone story. It can be watched by itself and you can walk away from it with a certain "closure" feeling.
Where as ESB has that WTF? this is it? feeling at the end. Plus the story leads into ROTJ which...Okay, It's a great movie, don't get me wrong, but we know Vaders, Lukes Father now. What else is left but to just finish out the story that we already knew.
ESB is a great movie though. I like it more for it's selected scenes though rather than it's entirety. The carbon freezing, Yoda, Luke and Vader duel.
Everyone has thier favorite caracter. Mine just happens to be Vader. ANH, I think he was just more sinister. Looks wise, attitude wise...
ESB he shows a bit of softening. Shiney dome, clean appearance.
One being, as some have stated, It's more of a complete and stand alone story. It can be watched by itself and you can walk away from it with a certain "closure" feeling.
Where as ESB has that WTF? this is it? feeling at the end. Plus the story leads into ROTJ which...Okay, It's a great movie, don't get me wrong, but we know Vaders, Lukes Father now. What else is left but to just finish out the story that we already knew.
ESB is a great movie though. I like it more for it's selected scenes though rather than it's entirety. The carbon freezing, Yoda, Luke and Vader duel.
Everyone has thier favorite caracter. Mine just happens to be Vader. ANH, I think he was just more sinister. Looks wise, attitude wise...
ESB he shows a bit of softening. Shiney dome, clean appearance.
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