Han Solo Bust. Resin to Silicone.

[Fetts.Sobriquet]

I started a thread that verified that this guy was a recaster. Hes also listed on PropSafe.

Some cavalier attitudes toward recasting was expressed in that thread as well.

 

[chuckyAPP]

I think investing the time and money to make a silicone copy for YOURSELF is not a problem as long as youre not selling it

 

[Hecubus114]

AgentofChaos , I would do whatever you want to with YOUR purchase .


dafstartrooper , I have no words that describe how wrong that statement is to me , but in the sense of community and not wanting to get on a bad foot with anyone I will take the high road...LMAO

I'd say your already off to a bad foot - you are supporting recasting and thats a no no here. I dont care how you are rationalizing it to yourself but thats what it is...

 

[James Kenobi 1138]

Printing counterfeit money in your basement and keeping it in your house and not spending it is still illegal.

Once the cat is out of the bag, and the mold is just sitting there, it's only a matter of time. Thieves cast others work, even for just themselves (oh, and just a few friends who promised to not say anything).

Thieves steal. Artists make it themselves. At least ask for and get permission from the original artist.

If 50 people bought this Han head and cast if in silicone just for themselves, there are now 100 copies. No one is going to be buried with these things, eventually they will leave your house, be out in the open, something will happen to them.

The more copies, the less the quality of each and the less valuable the original sculpt is.

Way to slap the original artist in the face. There is a line, you're either on one side of it, or the other side.

 

[SUPERprops]

Dang, I bought from this guy a darth vader helmet and almost bought a luke bust. Chewie15, is the luke bust yours as well?

 

[MooCriket]

There was a line drawn in the sand, and man... this aggresion (recasting) will not stand.

 

[propologist]

I'd say your already off to a bad foot - you are supporting recasting and thats a no no here. I dont care how you are rationalizing it to yourself but thats what it is...

All i'm saying is that if it's for my personal use, there's not anyone in this world going to tell me what I can do or not do..period.

I just have a different view of it , it's not wrong or right , but just different.

..And i am not a recaster, I don't buy props off ebay. I want to buy items from here to give the money back to the members. I learned many years ago to watch out for those on ebay for many different reasons.

 

[Simmon M]

If it's NOT your work and you're making a copy of it (without consent) then it's recasting.

Period.

 

[jarvis]

The next time you see a prop or bust on ebay with a 'too good to be true price' (50 bucks for a 1:1 bust) it's going to be a recast. Chances are one of the members here made it, or can tell you whether or not it's legit so come do some research before you make the mistake of buying it.

 

[MooCriket]

Someone once said, better to be silent and thought of as being an idiot than speak and remove all doubt.

Recasting, cannot be justified. Wrong is wrong...period.

 

[Eopie Herder]

Someone once said, better to be silent and thought of as being an idiot than speak and remove all doubt.

That's classic!

 

[Eaglewood]

The next time you see a prop or bust on ebay with a 'too good to be true price' (50 bucks for a 1:1 bust) it's going to be a recast. Chances are one of the members here made it, or can tell you whether or not it's legit so come do some research before you make the mistake of buying it.

What is someone who doesnt belong to this site buy it and make one for his son and his other son so they both have one--Should we tie him to the stake and start the fire without asking if he knew he was supposed to research it first?? IS anyone supposed to come here and find out first? The world is bigger than the RPF. How did he know anything other than it was for sale on Ebay? Sometime people are innocent but seem to be guilty here first. ---- :confused Not starting anything so dont get your panties in a bunch-- Just playing Devils advocate here :angry Sorry Ladies:angel

 

[CSMacLaren]

What is someone who doesnt belong to this site buy it and make one for his son and his other son so they both have one--Should we tie him to the stake and start the fire without asking if he knew he was supposed to research it first?? IS anyone supposed to come here and find out first? The world is bigger than the RPF. How did he know anything other than it was for sale on Ebay? Sometime people are innocent but seem to be guilty here first. ---- :confused Not starting anything so dont get your panties in a bunch-- Just playing Devils advocate here :angry Sorry Ladies:angel

That's a good observation. Hard enough as it is to keep track of recasters as listed on PropSafe, the RPF, and The Prop Den, the eBay community is simply so much larger than the aforementioned prop-collecting websites combined.

However, it irks me that some blacklisted recasters somehow still get props to recast, so one wonders if they're doing so via proxies, and if so, who the proxies are among us.....

 

[ave4uevoli]

What is someone who doesnt belong to this site buy it and make one for his son and his other son so they both have one--Should we tie him to the stake and start the fire without asking if he knew he was supposed to research it first?? IS anyone supposed to come here and find out first? The world is bigger than the RPF. How did he know anything other than it was for sale on Ebay? Sometime people are innocent but seem to be guilty here first. ---- :confused Not starting anything so dont get your panties in a bunch-- Just playing Devils advocate here :angry Sorry Ladies:angel

Just because rules and regulations against terrorism aren't as stringent or enforced as they are here in the united states does not mean that someone can come here and start blowing things up.

Just because the rules and regulations against recasting aren't as stringent or enforced on ebay or elsewhere does not mean that someone can come here and start recasting.

Sorry - but when you enter into a new community - physical or online - you had better learn the rules of the place before you start acting.

recasting may seem trivial for a lot of people out there - but so's chewing gum - and people get caned for that in Singapore. Respect another communities laws. That's just what you have to do.

 

[Garthok]

Just because rules and regulations against terrorism aren't as stringent or enforced as they are here in the united states does not mean that someone can come here and start blowing things up.

Just because the rules and regulations against recasting aren't as stringent or enforced on ebay or elsewhere does not mean that someone can come here and start recasting.

Sorry - but when you enter into a new community - physical or online - you had better learn the rules of the place before you start acting.

recasting may seem trivial for a lot of people out there - but so's chewing gum - and people get caned for that in Singapore. Respect another communities laws. That's just what you have to do.

Well said.

If you want a Silicone one ask Howard to make you one. Either that or sculpt your own. When you try the sculpting route you will appreciate the talent these people have and why its such a slap in the face when their hard work gets recast.

Anyone can pour silicone over a finished piece but only a few can, and do make these pieces to begin with. It would be terrible if they stopped making them simply because people want to save a few $ and rip off their work.

 

[Laser Brain]

"All i'm saying is that if it's for my personal use, there's not anyone in this world going to tell me what I can do or not do..period.

I just have a different view of it , it's not wrong or right , but just different."

That's just it, that view IS wrong HERE, maybe not in PRATTville, but who gives a ****. Don't like it? Find somewhere else to hang out. We respect, critique and applaud members work here...we don't take an afternoon to drop it in rubber.

Get some skills yourself or commission someone to do the job you can't.

 

[defstartrooper]

All i'm saying is that if it's for my personal use, there's not anyone in this world going to tell me what I can do or not do..period.

I just have a different view of it , it's not wrong or right , but just different.

..And i am not a recaster, I don't buy props off ebay. I want to buy items from here to give the money back to the members. I learned many years ago to watch out for those on ebay for many different reasons.

Really ? i suggest if you setup a meth lab in your basement telling the judge it's for personal use and nobody will tell you what to do in your house for your recreation will still result in a lengthy jail term.

You seem to be concentrating on it's YOUR personal use, what about the guy you're copying whose PERSONAL work you're copying without permission.

 

[James Kenobi 1138]

You seem to be concentrating on it's YOUR personal use, what about the guy your copying whose PERSONAL work you're copying without permission.

+1 all the way.

 

[Laffo]

Interested depending on price. (Meth not the Solo, that's a re-cast)
Laffo.

 

[Jannix Quinn]

Having only recently come into this whole props thing, I'm wondering a few things.

People go off their heads about recasting and there seem to be different points of view on it. My question is where is the line?

Say for instance, someone makes from scratch a Han Solo blaster or something. They use the old gun, add the metal parts etc etc. I imagine the outlook on that is 'that's fine, great work'. Someone buys it and recasts it, then they are frowned upon as a recaster.

But the original blaster isn't really the builder's own work is it? I mean, the person who worked for Lucasfilm for the movie is the one who made the blaster. The prop is still a copy made by someone copying an original work. Same with paper props. If someone makes a map of middle earth and sells it, isn't that basically stealing the work that Tolkien did years ago? Where's his reward?

I guess busts are different because it's a likeness of a person, but why isn't copying a movie prop a crime if copying a copy is? It's still ripping off the original artist's work.

Again, I'm not condoning recasting or whatever. I'm just trying to see why one thing is wrong and another isn't. There seem to be levels of tolerence.