Wow what a cool thread and topic. As someone who's always loved all things medieval etc i had always fancied having a try at making some but never really understood the technique. It is pretty costy to buy so this is a great alternative. Thanks for posting this. One question,when you want to join your first 2 sets of 4 in 1s the ring to join them goes in the centre of the central line right? So between the 4?