Originally posted by Jades Dark Heart@Feb 12 2006, 06:16 PM
Here is a very poor picture of the Rings that Plo ran that were done by Honus. Doesn't get any better than this, and is far and away one of my favorite props.
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I bought a pair of EL Flashing Sunglasses from Walmart and I cut the power box of of it and attatched new wires from the box to the Cut EL sheet from the night light. Then I added a green transluscent tape over it and then, slid it under the ring that is green transluscent resin. and Voila.
I haven't posted on this forum in years, but I had to comment on this! For YEARS I've thought that someone ought to make GL rings out of anodized aluminum or titanium, so that the color would be more durable, for a better wearable ring that's actually green!
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I haven't posted on this forum in years, but I had to comment on this! For YEARS I've thought that someone ought to make GL rings out of anodized aluminum or titanium, so that the color would be more durable, for a better wearable ring that's actually green!
I'd love to see more pictures of your rings, if you have any to share.
I posted my interest on the new thread you started about the rings.
Yes, sadly, that IS the terminology many fans use these days, and DC Direct has NOT helped by using the same terminology.
But the canonical explanation (i.e. within the DC Universe itself) is as follows:
When Hal Jordan first became a GL, there was only ONE style of power ring in use by the Corps. Most long-time fans such as myself refer to this as the GL Corps Power Ring Version 1. This is the round-faced ring with the GL Corps symbol carved into the face, a style that has been known for centuries as a SIGNET RING. This is the style that most fans now insist on calling "Hal Jordan's Power Ring". It was introduced in Hal Jordan's first appearance, and was used by ALL Green Lanterns (with slight variations as necessary to fit different types of extraterrestrial appendages, of course) from that story, up until July of 1976. While it has been drawn different ways by different artists on the book, that's merely artistic license. The rings were always meant to be of the same signet ring design:
Then in Green Lantern (Second Series) issue # 90 (August, 1976) the Guardians of the Universe recalled the ENTIRE Green Lantern Corps to Oa, to be issued NEW, "upgraded" Power Rings, which most long-time fans chose to call the Green Lantern Corps Power Ring Version 2. These rings, of course, had a brand-new form:
They also had updated programming and functions. Chief amongst the new functions: the wearer was given the ability to alter their ring's form to any form they chose! This allowed some GLs to come up with unique, customized ring designs. But the most memorable uses of this feature were when Hal Jordan went undercover and disguised his power ring as a pair of sunglasses, and when Katma Tui transformed a power ring into an "F-Sharp Bell" to enable a very unusual alien named Rot Lop Fan to join the Corps.
While many fans now insist on calling this ring the "Kyle Rayner Power Ring", this really, really annoys me, because that Version 2 Power Ring was around for 18 YEARS before Kyle Rayner made his first appearance. If anything, it should either be called the JOHN STEWART POWER RING (as this was the ring he wore in the mid '80s when Hal Jordan quit for a brief time, leading the Guardians to give John full-time GL status as Hal's replacement) or the GUY GARDNER POWER RING, as this is the ring Guy has worn ever since the first time he wore the emerald and black uniform of the Corps:
So, yeah, either one of those makes much more sense to me than calling it "Kyle Rayner's Power Ring". But John and Guy are both being marginalized here, because they're considered ''supporting characters", even though at times, they've both been shown as the main GL of Earth, while Hal and Kyle were both considered the protagonists of the book. :rolleyes
Now, the Version 1 and Version 2 designations are based solely on the fan's frame of reference. In GL (Vol. 2) # 90, it was strongly implied that this was not the first time the Guardians had issued updated power rings to the Corps. So, for all we know, as far as the Guardians and the Corps are concerned, the newer rings might actually be version 42!
And then of course, in the last few years, we've now seen what could be considered Version 3... an update to the Version 1 signet ring, with the slightly updated logo that the Corps now wears:
Biggest difference on this one, besides going back to the signet style look*, is that the weakness against the color yellow is no longer a problem for most GLs**.
As for Kyle's ring, that's... complicated. At one point, Hal Jordan encountered a rogue GL known as Lord Malvolio. Malvolio destroyed Hal's Version 2 power ring, then manipulated events so that Hal would take Malvolio's older Version 1 ring as a replacement. When Hal later turned against the Guardians and the Corps, taking on the name "Parallax", Hal dropped his ring (formerly Malvolio's ring) on the ground, then crushed it under the heel of his boot. The Guardian known as Ganthet then picked up the pieces, and remade the ring, and when Ganthet remade it, he altered some of its abilities, taking away the yellow weakness, and programming it to work only for its chosen wearer, the identity of whom it would verify via DNA. That's something I forgot to mention earlier; Kyle's ring was meant to be one-of-a-kind, like Alan Scott's. And it wasn't always drawn to look like the other Version 2 rings. In fact, at times, it's been drawn to look more like the so-called "chunk" ring:
So, maybe there should be a difference, from a design point of view, between the GL Corps Version 2 Power Ring, and "Kyle's Ring". While most fans and even the people at DC Direct now consider the 2 to be one and the same, they really shouldn't be considered the same at all. One is the standard ring that was issued to the entire Corps at a certain point in time, and was therefore "mass produced", while the other is a unique, one-of-a-kind ring with unique abilities and programming.
Just some things to think about. And yes, I probably AM one of the biggest Green Lantern geeks you'll ever come across. :$
*These new "Version 3" power rings presumably still allow the wearer to change the ring's form, which would explain why Guy's ring still looks like the Version 2 ring, and why John Stewart has now altered his ring to feature the animated series logo.
**As those that have read GL over the course of the last few years should already know, at the end of Green Lantern: Rebirth, the Corps discovered the true nature of the yellow impurity, and the weakness it caused. Now, the GLs know that once they learn how to overcome their fear, the weakness to the color yellow is no longer a problem. So, only the rookies are affected by the color yellow these days.
Actually, I read almost every issue of Volume 3 (the volume of the comic that ran throughout the '90s and early part of this decade, and featured Kyle Rayner as the protagonist from issue 50 until the final issue of that volume) and the DNA coding thing was present from the beginning. That feature was shown early on, in stories that were published years before he became Ion. From day one, his ring only ever worked for him, with only 2 exceptions*.
So, you're half right. When he became Ion, he DID go ahead and add the "return to me if separated from me" feature, which at the time, I saw as the writer of that issue taking a shot at Ron Marz's style of creating dramatic tension in the stories, which was having Kyle "Butterfingers" Rayner lose his ring like every other issue, so that he'd have to struggle with how to defeat the villain(s) until he conveniently relocated his ring! :rolleyes
There were other features he added, but at the moment, I'm drawing a blank on what they were. I'll have to get back to you on that one. :$
As for the way he blended the band into the symbol, again, that's just artistic license. It's no different than seeing Gil Kane draw the signet ring to look like this...
(A flat disc attached to a "separate" round band)
...while Alex Ross depicts it as a "proper" signet ring, more like the ones Megatron has helped us acquire (speaking of, mine needs to get here NOW!)...
...but then yet another artist decides to draw it like this...
...with that funky design that DC Direct used on their most recent high-end metal ring props AND their recent PVC promotional rings. It's THE SAME RING, just depicted by different artists, drawn to match their personal vision of what the ring should look like, or just drawn in the only way they know how to draw such a ring. The skill level of the artist at drawing items such as rings is definitely a factor here.
So, yeah, the old run of rings for the RPF were just produced with a small amount of artistic license. It's still the best metal version of that ring design In My Opinion. Your Mileage May Vary, of course.
BTW, the first Green Lantern Power Ring replica I ever got my hands on? The first one DC Comics ever gave out as a promotional item, back in 1990:
There you go, a separate logo attached to a band. And do you know why that was a bad idea? Well, the glue used to attach the 2 parts wasn't very good, basically just plain white Elmer's glue. So of the 3 or so that I've owned at various times over the years, 2 of them came apart, which I then had to glue back together with a bit of Super Glue.
That's also the power ring replica that I affectionately refer to as "Kilowog's Ring" because it's so FRAKKIN' HUGE! It's like a US size 13, maybe even a 14! It's so large that most fans can only wear it over a pair of gloves... which, combined with its constant availability on eBay (they're a dime a dozen over there,) does make it a great choice for wear with a proper GL costume.
Oh, and after that ring was put out by DC, throughout the run of Volume 3 of the comic, there were at least a couple instances where you could tell the artist drawing the book had one of those plastic glow-in-the-dark rings on his desk, using it as reference while drawing the ring, because I clearly remember panels in the comic where it was drawn identically to the plastic replica, complete with the beveled back side of the logo.
*Apparently, the DNA "test" the ring ran wasn't even as accurate as the ones we use today to prove someone's innocence or guilt in a court of law, because the ring also worked for Kyle's 30th Century descendant Cary Wren. 1,000 years between them, with all the genetic differences that would entail, and the ring still recognized her as an authorized user! :rolleyes
And then, during that same time travel adventure, Hal Jordan was also able to put on Kyle's ring and use it, the theory being that the ring still recognized and responded to its previous wearer, even after having been destroyed, rebuilt, and reprogrammed.
Well since the conversation is raging, let me add this. Even Alex Ross is not consistent with the way he draws the ring. He mimics the Gil Kane style in Justice #4:
While then doing the signet that he is best known for in the very next issue:
So even referring to Ross as a styling get muddled depending on which issue you are referring to. The reality is no matter what we call them we are looking for idealized versions and since Curtis himself said he doesn't like the ridges then if he does the Green Lantern v2 ring or if you want to call it the Kyle ring or the Guy Gardner ring the fact is that is probably the styling we are going to get.
You didn't answer my question!
As for Honus, IF he's the ring maker I think he is, I would've loved to have one or 2 of his, as well. Unfortunately, DC/WB issued him the dreaded C&D* letter, so he had to stop making his. :thumbsdown
*Cease & Desist, for those that aren't familiar with the abbreviation.
*whew!* There. That should make the discussion easier to follow for those that haven't read the topic in the Junkyard.Unless I'm terribly mistaken, Honus is the gentleman responsible for this ring...
...and the other rings seen in the How to Make a Green Lantern Ring Instructable that has become so well-known on the interwebz. I've also been told by someone in reference to the picture posted above that the gentleman that made that ring no longer sells them after having received a C&D letter from DC/WB, or rather, from their LAWYERS. And that's the story as I understand it.
Maybe.
I was given one of their Alan Scott rings as a gift. One of my ex-girlfriends gave it to me, and the fact that she gave me a GL ring just proves how good that one was at paying attention to the things I liked. It's okay... but I've never even had it expanded out to a size 10 so I could wear it. It really just sits in a jewelry box with a couple other rings I have in my collection, but don't wear.
Well, you know, you COULD take pictures of yours and post 'em!
Ironically, just today, I found a slip of paper I have with his real name and mailing address (as of the time when I got 2 rings from him, at any rate) on it!
Speaking only for myself, and I am unanimous in this... I LOVE my Arroba Silver GL Class Ring!
What, this old thing?
Honestly, I *think* I've seen photos of just such a ring once upon a time. Didn't look as cool as I thought it would. It's because jade is such a light shade of green.
Yep, that it is.
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Can't wait to see the final result of this project! :coolHere is my latest project that I am working on. The current "Hal" style signet ring. (In some of the pictures it looks like the symbol is crooked, it isn't, I just took the pictures at a bad angle.)
I am currently trying to find a place to cast them in silver, as well as see about getting the steel ones powder coated (possibly with tinted transparent inlays maybe with color appropriate GITD powder worked in).
