Thomas, do you understand English?
You keep on indicating that Gino claims his helmet is molded directly from THE original ANH screen helmet or this mould of the clay sculpture that Brian Muir sculpted. He never said that.
"My helmet and armor are derived from untainted original production pieces/molds-"
The key word here is ORIGINAL.
Ok. So lets say he got a casting from the production made helmet mould in the UK, which as we know is a mould from the original ANH screen helmet. Wouldnt that be from a "production mold" ? Lets say he has a friend with a helmet that was made for production and got permission to mould it. Wouldnt that be from a "production piece?"
No, the original production mold would be the mold taken from the clay sculpture, or the mold taken from the plaster master. Technically in the past it has referred to the clay mold because people didn't know there was a plaster intermediate step in the process. There is a mold taken from the screen ANH helmet, and it's in the LFL archives now, but Gino's helmet clearly hasn't come from that. If there was a second mold that made helmets looking like that, sure it could have come from the production but then it would look like the original helmet, and it doesn't. Many here would argue that a mold of an original prop is not an original mold nor even a production mold.
The VP, the TM, and even the TD helmet all have roots from a similar production mould or a cast which came from that mould. But all of those can be considered "tainted". The VP's tabs were sanded off and minor cleanup was made, the TM had its cheek tubes broken, the TD had its cheek tubes cut.
Actually, the VP, TM and TD all come from different molds. The TM and TD molds could very well have come off the screen ANH or a copy of it. Just because tubes are cut, broken or tabs taken off doesn't take anything away from the authenticity or origin of a casting.
That is no burn to any of those helmets btw. I hope to own a VP someday and Thomas your SL is one of the nicest ANH castings I've seen; you have every right to be proud of it.
Thanks, but I won't claim that the TD or SL came from the original production mold. I don't mind if someone points out things they think are wrong with my castings, I will try to show if those things are accurate or not.
But even if we assume for a minute that Gino's helmet is in the same class as these other casts, he would still be telling the truth as all these helmets derive from original production moulds or casts from them. So what lies is he speading?
It would be great if it was in the same class. But again it is the semantics and Gino knows very well what the term original means in the context of the original ANH mold or the screen-used helmet. He's saying that he has access either to the original ANH mold, the screen-used helmet, or a mold taken directly off the screen-used helmet (although the latter would not be original unless it was in fact used in or during the production...although there's been debate about those finer points).
And dont insult our intelligence by saying we dont know anything about Vader helmet casts. Some of us have done our homework. Of course Gino's helmet is going to share details with a VP. And a SL, and a TM. Because they are all from an authentic source! :thumbsup
Sorry if I insulted anyone here. But you have to admit the comments being made about this thread were kind of out there. It would be nice if the experts here would chime in and say ok Thomas I see what you are saying but you are wrong because of this, and let me please illustrate.
The reason there is no serious discussion going on here is because it cant. Start a thread on the prop den and see how far you get there. Or maybe you wouldnt want to post where Gino couldnt "defend himself."
Exactly, I knew that if I posted it on TPD, I would get my head bitten off for posting somewhere where Gino is banned and cannot defend himself. Normally I would post something like this there but I took a chance here.
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