Ghostbusters 3 is a go! (according to the writers, director and producer)

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I would be amazed if that was true! I dont believe even Murray is that big of a jerk to people who he is at the very least friendly with and will maybe be working with in future.

If the quote about people not wanting to see fat old men...etc is true then Im pretty sure Murray wants to do different films period. That is fine. Just say no bill and let the whole sorry saga move along.

Its more BS about GB 3, and its very very boring now.

weequay
 
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I totally agree with Solo, Murray is smarter than Ackroyd and Ramis combined, there is no "Ghostbusters" without Murray and this film does NOT need to be made, it'll be just another trainwreck along the lines of "Crystal Skull". It's not the 80s anymore, let the GB franchise go and move on to something else...like making hit movies based on board games. :lol
 
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Except, it's true.

It's an opinion Solo. You believe Ghostbusters won't work without Bill Murray, I believe it can work without Bill Murray. Anything can be done if it's done right, and what's right can be something that none of us saw coming. All I'm seeing here is "I expect this", "I expect that" and "it's my way or the highway.". None of that makes a good movie, especially when it comes to sticking with the same actors.
 
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I totally agree with Solo, Murray is smarter than Ackroyd and Ramis combined, there is no "Ghostbusters" without Murray and this film does NOT need to be made, it'll be just another trainwreck along the lines of "Crystal Skull".

Except... the Crystal Skull wasn't made until all the original parties involved said yes to the final product... And Crystal Skull HAD to involve everyone. Don't you think the last Indiana Jones movie would have been much different if some new talent were involved that actually wanted to be a part of Indy lore and not just for a paycheck? Cause what I'm seeing with Ghostbusters 3 is what got Krystal Skull made in the first place. Everyone wants Murray, but aren't considering the possibility that he probably won't be the best thing in it.
 
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A good script acted out by good actors under the direction of a good director are the things that make a movie. These are the things they would need to concentrate on.

If they get those things in place it can be good. Having Murray on board is not the only key to making it good. In fact, you need all of the above MORE than even Murray and the Ghostbusters name.

Nothing else matters. Just get me a good story and tell it to me entertainingly.
 
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From what I understand, the film is literally contingent upon Murray's involvement - or at least stamp of approval. I've heard he has partial control of the property and the making of continued films.
 
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It's an opinion Solo. You believe Ghostbusters won't work without Bill Murray, I believe it can work without Bill Murray. Anything can be done if it's done right, and what's right can be something that none of us saw coming. All I'm seeing here is "I expect this", "I expect that" and "it's my way or the highway.". None of that makes a good movie, especially when it comes to sticking with the same actors.



Actually, it's not an opinion. It's an objective, observable fact.


Look around. Bill Murray has yet to sign on for Ghostbusters 3. Does Ghostbusters 3 exist? Has there been any announcement that, despite his refusal to participate, the producers are going ahead anyway? No. Ergo, no Peter Venkman, no Ghosbusters.



Our own individually held opinions about how good or bad this film could be with or without Murray's involvement are....irrelevant. Your opinion doesn't matter. My opinion doesn't matter. Not as individual, discrete opinion. Hollywood cares about what it perceives as AGGREGATE opinion, which in turn translates into higher or lower ticket sales. That's it. That's all that matters.

Clearly, the studio does not believe it can make sufficient money without Murray's involvement. If it believed otherwise, the film would've already happened. It hasn't yet, so the only logical conclusion is that no Bill Murray = no Ghostbusters 3. Incontrovertible fact.

My supposition is that Hollywood thinks enough people out there won't go see the film without Murray's involvement. Personally, I think they're right, but as I said, my personal belief here is irrelevant. It's what they believe, rightly or wrongly, that matters because they're the ones holding the purse strings.

So, go ahead and hold whatever opinion you like, but the fact of the matter is Murray hasn't signed, and there is no film. Ergo, you can hate the statement that Venkman = Ghostbusters as much as you want....but it's still objectively true.
 
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I have to go back to 2000 for a movie I even liked Murray in, Charlie's Angels.

Life Aquatic and Lost in Translation are both an easy split with people that liked them or didn't.

So other than the possibility that maybe he owns some of the property, I say just ditch him.

He was never as funny as Chevy on SNL either.
 
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While its true that Murray is a HUGE factor in Ghostbusters I'm sure that if they got some big name actors or actresses in there it could have major potential.
 
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So, go ahead and hold whatever opinion you like, but the fact of the matter is Murray hasn't signed, and there is no film.

If only Star Trek had that issue with William Shatner.

Anyways, here's another one. I love Bill Murray, but for a studio to put all their eggs in one basket just sends a bad message. If the big heads truly believe that only Bill Murray can make Ghostbusters work, what is that saying about the franchise itself? It's almost like they want a Bill Murray movie more than a Ghostbusters movie. What happens Bill Murray passes away? Should that kill any Ghostbuster "thing" from ever being made again?

There are several examples of studios, writers and directors moving on without the big talent. Sean Connery left the role of James Bond after he had help in making him an icon, but they still went on without him. What would the Nolan Batman movies be like if Heath Ledger didn't die? Still didn't stop them from making another one, or even replacing a major cast member. Remember how they brought back Kay for Men in Black II? That was an insult to a perfectly good send off that the first movie had. And why? Because the big heads believed you couldn't make a Men in Black sequel without Tommy Lee Jones, and that was a mistake.

One more. As a kid, I played as a Ghostbuster, not Peter Venkman.
 
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If only Star Trek had that issue with William Shatner.

Anyways, here's another one. I love Bill Murray, but for a studio to put all their eggs in one basket just sends a bad message. If the big heads truly believe that only Bill Murray can make Ghostbusters work, what is that saying about the franchise itself? It's almost like they want a Bill Murray movie more than a Ghostbusters movie. What happens Bill Murray passes away? Should that kill any Ghostbuster "thing" from ever being made again?

There are several examples of studios, writers and directors moving on without the big talent. Sean Connery left the role of James Bond after he had help in making him an icon, but they still went on without him. What would the Nolan Batman movies be like if Heath Ledger didn't die? Still didn't stop them from making another one, or even replacing a major cast member. Remember how they brought back Kay for Men in Black II? That was an insult to a perfectly good send off that the first movie had. And why? Because the big heads believed you couldn't make a Men in Black sequel without Tommy Lee Jones, and that was a mistake.

One more. As a kid, I played as a Ghostbuster, not Peter Venkman.


Ok.

Um...are we having a debate here? My sense is we aren't. If you're just trying to get across your own personal opinion that it isn't necessary TO YOU that a GB3 film include Bill Murray, well, ok, I get that. Message received, loud and clear.

My point, however, is that while that's all well and good, as a business decision, I suspect the studio views Murray as intrinsic to the brand itself the same way the color "red" is intrinsic to the Coca Cola brand. You may not personally care what color a Coca Cola can is, and might simply say "Hey, I'm in it for what's IN the can, not the can itself."

But branding matters. Branding is the reason why all these remakes, reboots, prequels, sequels, optioned IP films, etc. are being made.

Familiarity with a product means consumers will be more likely to purchase the product. I'll bet you that the Coca Cola company knows (or thinks it knows) how much money it would LOSE if it suddenly changed its can design from the familiar white-script-on-red to, say, orange writing on a green can. I'm betting that the studio heads have done similar estimations on a future GB3 project without Bill Murray and, in their belief, the potential profit doesn't justify the expenditure of money.

So, while you may be fine with Coke in a green can and Ghostbusters without Bill Murray, I'm guessing the studio believes (rightly or wrongly) that Ghostbusters sans Bill Murray will not sell any better than Coke in a green can. And that is why we have no movie.

But yes, I get that you think that's a stupid decision.
 
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Even if the studio agreed that it didn't need him, it's not up to them. It's up to him. Murray has veto power on GB3's green light, along with Ramis and Ackroyd. Thank god someone with some artistic sensibility is sharing the driver's seat!

No one here liked "GET LOW" last year? Man, I thought that flick was terrific. Bill Murray and Robert Duvall in two really great and memorable roles.
 
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Wait, how does Murray have veto power on it if the studio wants to go ahead? Does he own part of the property or something?
 
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That's the way I understood it - the three principal actors each owned a part of the property and it would require approval from all three to move forward on a new film. I'm hardly a Sony insider though, so I could be misinformed! Grain of salt. :)
 
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Wait, how does Murray have veto power on it if the studio wants to go ahead? Does he own part of the property or something?

Yes he does. As I understand it, Ivan riteman made it so that only he can direct a GB movie too! Smart move :)

As for coca cola and different colour cans....that actually happened very recently! They put it in a white can for some reason and had to go back!!

WHilst I am sure there are many many people like me who would still watch a gb film without murray, those numbers im sure will not be enough.

weequay
 
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Any property can be turned into a good film, even if it doesn't have the original cast. I believe it is more than just the actors, but you need a really good plot.

GI Joe The Movie wasn't great, but was that because Sgt. Slaughter was not in it?
Then again, I enjoyed the first GI Joe movie.

I think if they find the right actors to fill the shoes of the characters, then we will get a good film. I won't shoot anything down until I see a trailer. Even after that, I might still give it a shot.
 
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Yes he does. As I understand it, Ivan riteman made it so that only he can direct a GB movie too! Smart move :)

As for coca cola and different colour cans....that actually happened very recently! They put it in a white can for some reason and had to go back!!
weequay

Actually, when they thought the ball was set to get rolling on GB3, Reitman was only positioned to produce and not to direct. Later on, he reached a tentative agreement to direct. I think he may have been lumped in with the three principals in ownership/approval over the project though.

The white Coke cans were for Coca-Cola's polar bear habitat preservation fundraiser. They had to be reverted to red because most people mistook them for Diet Coke!
 
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No one here liked "GET LOW" last year? Man, I thought that flick was terrific. Bill Murray and Robert Duvall in two really great and memorable roles.

If it's so important to have Murray in it, why have I never even heard of that movie.

I watch a ton of movies. Never heard of that one.

And I think a lot of people share my view of him.

Good in GB and a few others but NOT a main draw anymore.

He's just bitter he missed his ONE chance at an Oscar.
 
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