Game of Thrones

[jkno]

What - Bran tells us the Night's King motive is to erase history and mankind

That is is more like his purpose, not his motive. I would like to know what stood behind his actions, even if in a flashback from Bran. People don't want the whole Boba Fett story here. Personally I might have been happy with what we got so far about him from the series, until I saw him smile condescending at Danny - he is more than just a robot. And in the end we might get more than we want in the GoT prequel that is said to be made.

 

[Analyzer]

That is is more like his purpose, not his motive. I would like to know what stood behind his actions, even if in a flashback from Bran. People don't want the whole Boba Fett story here. Personally I might have been happy with what we got so far about him from the series, until I saw him smile condescending at Danny - he is more than just a robot. And in the end we might get more than we want in the GoT prequel that is said to be made.

I'm really hoping they do cover more of the White Walkers / The Others and the other more mythological elements in that series

'Game of Thrones' showrunners explain why they created the Night King (and what he wants)

In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, creator David Benioff was clear about the Night King's motivations. “I don’t think of him as evil, I think of him as Death,” Benioff said. “And that’s what he wants — for all of us. It’s why he was created, and that’s what he’s after.”

"Benioff notes that another common question they get about the character is why doesn’t the Night King ever speak."

“What’s he going to say?” Benioff asks. “Anything the Night King says diminishes him.”

 

[Grey]

I'm baffled by people thinking that the Night King "was the point of the show" and that the entire series was about this battle, it wasn't. The characters in the south didn't even learn about the Night King or his army until ~7 seasons in. This was, is, and always has been the northerner's fight. The outcome of this battle illustrates that it's not enough to fight valiantly, or to sacrifice the soldiers who stood on the front lines, or to defeat the evil blue man. It's not enough to just "be the good guys" because there are still people in the world who aren't going to care as long as they control their piece of it, and that's what Cersei represents.

They defended the realm from a force that would have slaughtered everyone, just as their ancestors did before them, and no one other than the survivors will ever truly believe it or reward them for it. That is peak Game of Thrones.

 

[Analyzer]

I'm baffled by people thinking that the Night King "was the point of the show" and that the entire series was about this battle, it wasn't. The characters in the south didn't even learn about the Night King or his army until ~7 seasons in. This was, is, and always has been the northerner's fight. The outcome of this battle illustrates that it's not enough to fight valiantly, or to sacrifice the soldiers who stood on the front lines, or to defeat the evil blue man. It's not enough to just "be the good guys" because there are still people in the world who aren't going to care as long as they control their piece of it, and that's what Cersei represents.

They defended the realm from a force that would have slaughtered everyone, just as their ancestors did before them, and no one other than the survivors will ever truly believe it or reward them for it. That is peak Game of Thrones.

I think that many, like myself, found the Night's King character one of the most fascinating characters on the show. The books are much more toned down as far as the Others/White Walker threat (at least so far anyway). The TV show kind of ran with it. In fact, the books don't actually even have a "Night King" type character yet . It's still a bunch of nameless "Others"

It's funny, you could almost separate the stories that intertwine with each other into separate series. However for the most part, I think the White Walker stuff was mostly so Jon had something to do while everything else was going on as well as a way to have fire and ice come together and join forces for the true end game

 

[Solo4114]

Apparently Martin has said that the Others are like a distinct species, with their own motivations and such. In which case, perhaps he'll flesh them out a bit more. I seem to recall that there's a legend about the Night's King having been seduced by some female creature, and turned into what he now is, but I can't recall what the source of that is.

Within the show, I think they handled him basically fine. I think of the Night's King as a force of nature, or like a computer program that got out of control. The Children of the Forest, in the middle of their war with the First Men, took one of the First Men and made him into a White Walker (the Night's King) to fight the First Men. Apparently he did that, but also was pissed at the Children, and so fought them, which caused the Children and the First Men to band together and fight the White Walkers, managing to defeat them.

Since that time, the Night's King has sought to destroy all living things, basically because he's following his program, but expanding upon it.


Now, maybe there's a deeper story there, one of love betrayed perhaps, or something else, but at the end of the day, the show wasn't ever really about that. What the show made interesting was not the big mysteries behind the White Walkers, but rather the way that the humans respond to their threat.

 

[Toadmeister]

Am I the only one who just enjoyed Episode 3 and was satisfied?

Sure I have small nit-picks but as a whole it was very well done!

 

[wtyler3]

I also thought is was awesome. The use of the darkness to create intense scenes; well the night king brought darkness so it made sense. My wife and I were freaking out as the Dothraki horde was wiped out and then all you hear is the noise building as the dead came to attack. Being able to see them coming would have really reduced that. I thought the dead in the library escape scene was too "Walking Deadish", and the lack of fight back the crypt I thought was a bit selfish considering the fighting going on above. They had the dragon glass knives which should have stopped those dead (there was a difference in killing those that had been dead a long time and those fresh) By then though it was every man fighting to save themselves as long as they could. But it is high on my list of best episodes in a series of great ones.

 

[Richard Baker]

While the darkness was frustrating to watch, one big thing it did was make the epic battle intimate.
You knew what else was going on, but what you saw was only the immediate threat you, up close and personal.
The winter storm did the same thing with the air- instead of having a vast overview of the battle and surrounding area as planned, they could only see a short distance around them. When the mounted Night King attacked it was a sudden surprise and when he left you had no idea from where he would come next.
Poor visibility have every threat up close and personal,

 

[Analyzer]

Am I the only one who just enjoyed Episode 3 and was satisfied?

Sure I have small nit-picks but as a whole it was very well done!

Overall I liked it. My only real disappointment was seeing the end of the Night King's story so soon in the season after such a long build up.
But that was mostly because I misunderstood, or at the very least, incorrectly put too much personal weight on that part of the story

 

[harrisonp]

I’m beginning to subscribe to these multiverse theories surrounding Bran and the NK. All these things have happened before, The Long Night has come again, the heroes have failed, the 3ER killed/taken, but in the timeline we just saw in the episode the cycle has finally been broken, likely by Bran’s inaction in the battle. Bran and the NK see across all the timelines and have been at this countless times.

It’s a little too time travely but I kind of like it.

 

[Grey]

All these things have happened before

If Jon starts hearing All Along The Watchtower i'm out.

 

[Monkey67]

I’m beginning to subscribe to these multiverse theories surrounding Bran and the NK. All these things have happened before, The Long Night has come again, the heroes have failed, the 3ER killed/taken, but in the timeline we just saw in the episode the cycle has finally been broken, likely by Bran’s inaction in the battle. Bran and the NK see across all the timelines and have been at this countless times.

It’s a little too time travely but I kind of like it.

No no I don’t. Time travel and multi parallel worlds is a huge no. That’s just super lazy writing and story telling. *looking at you so called super hero movie.

 

[Richard Baker]

I think the story has unfolded just fine without parallel universes and time travel.

I mean we have fire breathing dragons flying around, no need to be unrealistic!

 

[Clutch]

I had no issues with light when watching the battle. Deux Ex Machina is what I felt about Arya coming down like that on the Night King, wish it showed her slipping ass the guards or something.

Hehehehehehehehe!!!!!!

 

[harrisonp]

I mean the 3ER is basically Dr Manhattan cognitively so...

 

[NeoRutty]

I remember when someone died without it being in sacrifice of the greater good.

Now everyone dies just as they complete the one thing they were meant for. I missed when people died cuz they were mortal and sometimes life doesn't just go your way.

 

[JoeG]

Apparently Martin has said that the Others are like a distinct species, with their own motivations and such. In which case, perhaps he'll flesh them out a bit more. I seem to recall that there's a legend about the Night's King having been seduced by some female creature, and turned into what he now is, but I can't recall what the source of that is.

Within the show, I think they handled him basically fine. I think of the Night's King as a force of nature, or like a computer program that got out of control. The Children of the Forest, in the middle of their war with the First Men, took one of the First Men and made him into a White Walker (the Night's King) to fight the First Men. Apparently he did that, but also was pissed at the Children, and so fought them, which caused the Children and the First Men to band together and fight the White Walkers, managing to defeat them.

Since that time, the Night's King has sought to destroy all living things, basically because he's following his program, but expanding upon it.


Now, maybe there's a deeper story there, one of love betrayed perhaps, or something else, but at the end of the day, the show wasn't ever really about that. What the show made interesting was not the big mysteries behind the White Walkers, but rather the way that the humans respond to their threat.

The Night's King is a book only character. He was in the Night's Watch and later tried to lead a rebellion. He's mostly been relegated to legend in the books. He IS NOT the same character as the Night King in the show. See - Night's King

The Night KIng from the show is strictly a Dan & Dave creation that they built up and, as per usual, couldn't pay off.

 

[Thain]

This episode should be a masterclass in plot armor. I still can't believe the lack of casualties of main characters.

I hope Dany has a really hard time convincing anyone to go fight Cersei. They just fought the most overwhelming and relentless army humanity has ever seen - you really think the survivors are going to pick up their swords and march into battle again? Yeah right. These people shouldn't care about the petty conflicts of humans anymore after facing an army of literal death.

 

[Nth]

I see Amazon.com and Amazon.ca are also now taking pre-orders for the limited edition blu ray collection of the entire series. Says it will include never seen before content so I am hoping they might put deleted scenes back in the episodes they were removed from.
Pretty hefty price point for the set as well.

Am I the only one who just enjoyed Episode 3 and was satisfied?

Sure I have small nit-picks but as a whole it was very well done!

Agree. Even through all my nitpicks it's still one of the best things on TV I'll ever see in my lifetime.

 

[Richard Baker]

It is hard to believe we are just watching a freak'n TV show.

If only they made movies this good