Finally built a Farnsworth (with electronics)

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by jedibugs, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. jedibugs

    jedibugs Well-Known Member

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    Other than a really-not-very-good Ramona Flowers Hammer, this is my first actual prop build. It's also my first time ever working with electronics, so I'm extra happy with the results.

    My goal was to make a Farnsworth that behaves as much like the QMx as possible. I think I came pretty close. The only real differences, functionally, are that the QMx has an adjustable activation delay for the ringer from 0-10 seconds, while mine has 4 options: 0, 3, 5 and 10 second delays. The QMx also has a vibration motor to coincide with the ring tone, and mine has none. I found a perfect motor for the job, but the only way I could wire it to my sound board would have had it buzzing a long, solid buzz any time the Farnsworth was active.

    I also made one intentional change (as explained in the video below): On the QMx, the led flashes when ringing and goes off for the "On" mode. On the show (for the 3rd season, at least), the led continues flashing when it's on, exactly the same as when it's ringing. I just thought that having the light steadily on when the Farnsworth is active made more sense. So it blinks when ringing, on when on, of when off. It may not be screen accurate, but I prefer it.

    Anyway, here are the internals of the Farnsworth:
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    Now, that's not very pretty, especially when compared to the QMx:
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    So I used some poster board to tidy/conceal most of the mess:
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    And here's the completed piece:
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    I've always liked a grey screen over a black one, because it's supposed to be a CRT screen, right? Like Philo Farnsworth invented? So I went with grey. I also definitely wanted a glass screen, even though I wouldn't be able to get that little edge you get with the plastic ones... Glass just makes it seem a little more real to me.

    I'm a little disappointed in the Faceplate... The Farnsworth logo is off-center, the speaker grille isn't cut out (I colored them in with Sharpie) and the holes for the brads were so big that I had to solder the back of the brads so they didn't fall through. But it is brass and I knew it wasn't quite right when I ordered it... I just wanted it fast and the member I bought it from got it to me from literally the other side of the world in amazing time. Over all, quite nice, but if Szyntax's new run materializes, I'll be replacing it.

    And, in case anyone is interested in the back of the faceplate (I always am):
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    And a video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V2gP-B02U0

    Over all, I'm quite happy with it!!
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2012
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  2. Interceptor6

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    That's just perfect!
    I really need to go the "sound" route, but electricity and I don't see the world in the same light.
     
  3. jedibugs

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    Like I said, this was my first time attempting anything of the sort. The sound module I used was less than $20 and about an hour of experimentation gave me the results I was looking for.

    Oh, and did I mention that all my sound files are the same production-used files that QMx uses? (I posted the download link in the Farnsworth Discussion thread).
     
  4. Rassilon

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    “Your first ever build you say” well I think for your first build, I would say you have assembled & completed a very nice Farnsworth.

    Are you looking to do any other builds. :)
     
  5. jedibugs

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    Thank you, sir!

    I'm hoping to get Claudia's Farnsworth built and a Tesla as well. I have very little in the way of tools, so I have to keep stuff pretty simple for now.
     
  6. Rassilon

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    My fist build was my Tom Yardley Jones design Tardis, never had any wood working tools at the time.
    And no idea even how to even work with wood, as I have always worked with steel, so working with wood was something new, but by the end of the Tardis build, and a Dalek or 2, I had enough wood working tools to build a house.
     
  7. Siebigteroth3

    Siebigteroth3 New Member

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    I like how you used the brads to attach the lens, I'll be borrowing that idea for when I build the proper one.
     
  8. idahorandom

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    That is amazing.
    Great work and even though I am totally jealous, I am happy for you!:lol
     
  9. CJ 617

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    Fantastic job on your build!!!! I wish I had the expertise to put some sound effects to mine.....all I've managed is wiring up the red led
     
  10. jedibugs

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    Thanks. I went that route because I knew I wanted to eventually replace the face-plate. Snip-snip and it's ready to be transplanted.
     
  11. jedibugs

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    No expertise needed, honestly. I got the 300 second USB sound module from electronics 123, a $10 soldering iron and some solder from radio shack and watched a 5 minute video on YouTube on how to solder. The rest was trial and error, figuring out what to wire where and only soldering it down once I'd figured it out.
    I did make a wiring diagram to help me once I'd figured it out... I'm sure it could be more clear, but it was the best I could do at the moment, having never attempted something like that before.
     
  12. Kingpin

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    Brilliant build, and I support making the indicator light steady when the Farnsworth is "in use"... thanks for posting the wiring diagram as well, if I end up finally getting a build started, this is the electronics layout I want to equip it with.
     
  13. CJ 617

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    Thanks for posting the diagram...that certainly helps me, cheers :)

    I will get around to tackling adding this feature to my farnsworth, and now you've given me the confidence! Thanks
     
  14. jedibugs

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    Glad to help!

    I've been paying off the QMx FX version via eLayaway since it went on sale and, after putting this together, I just can't imagine showing off essentially the same thing and saying: "I bought it myself!" So I canceled my order yesterday. (that extra money I'm getting back will help pay for the new iPad I ordered yesterday!)
     
  15. Odin21100

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    Very nice job Jedibugs,

    i was wondering if it would be possible for you to send me some details on the build if that is ok. Like where you got the sound files for the chip what sound chip you used (300 second USB recording module WITH LIGHT SENSOR or 300 second USB recording module), did you have to attach an LED and what sequence you put them into the software to get such a great result from your farnsworth and what you used for the screen?

    Cheers in advance for any help.

    Peace Out

    Odin21100 (Arthur)
     
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  16. jedibugs

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    Hi Odin,

    The sound files can be found here: http://db.tt/fbmHydNi

    These are the exact uncompressed sound files used on the production of the show. They were supplied to QMx who, in turn, put them into the Farnsworth iPhone app. I was able to access my iPhone's file system and get the files out of the app directly.

    As for using those files, you'll need to add a little silence to the end of the ring in order to get the proper gap between rings when looping. I can't remember exactly how much I added, but I just sort of ear-balled it.

    I also found that the sound module doesn't read those sound files exactly as they are so you'll need to open them in your audio editor of choice (Audacity works well and it's free) and Save As a PCM wav file. You don't need to do any editing (other than the aforementioned silence for the ringing loop), just open and save as. Then they'll work just fine.

    Fr the delay settings, I just used my audio editor to make silent files of appropriate length and put them at the front of the playlist.

    I actually need to re-make all my configurations for the sound board because I had to delete the windows partition from my computer and forgot to save those files. So, I'll probably do that this week for my next build and I can post the files so all you have to do is import the config file and point it to where you've got your wav files. Viola!

    And the sound board is the most basic 300 sec module. No need for any light or motion sensors.

    There is a red LED built into the module, but I removed it and added my own, brighter one connected with wires rather than soldered directly on so that I could have a little more leeway in placement of the board.

    And the screen... It's actually a glass radio dial from a 1939 Ford. It can be purchased here: http://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb...~S3HB0MDJEQ16614732124q~Z5Z5Z5~Z5Z5Z50000024Q

    It's $6 plus $10 shipping and it fits perfectly!

    Hope this helps,

    -Shawn




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  17. Zombie Killer

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    Looks great, sound is the only thing i need to get to finish mine. I need to check out electronics 123.
     
  18. jedibugs

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    One more thing, Odin...

    If you're interested in building a Farnsworth, the absolute hardest part to obtain is the Brass Faceplate. Lucky for you, there's currently a run underway in the Junkyard with ONE spot left open for someone to jump in. The link is here: http://www.therpf.com/f13/brass-farnsworth-faceplates-only-one-spot-left-143465/

    I'm administrating the run while legendary member Russrep actually makes the plates. If you want in, just reply in that thread.

    If you need any reference or info on where to buy other bits, most of the most important info is in the very first post of this thread: http://www.therpf.com/f9/farnsworth-discussion-65867/

    Good luck mate,

    -Shawn


     
  19. thegreatgalling

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    Really like your work with this. I would have never guessed the speaker grill wasn't punched until you mentioned it.
     
  20. Odin21100

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    thanks for all the info jedibugs it been a great help will now start pricing and saving to start my build.

    if you are planing on another run of faceplates could you give me a buzz I'd be interested in a couple of them.

    Peace Out

    Odin21100
     
  21. jedibugs

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    Thanks! The outlines for the grille are there, I just had to color in the lines. Hopefully I'll be replacing that faceplate soon with a better one.


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  22. Usagi Pilgrim

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    Just got to point out...I started rewatching the series on DVD over the weekend & I noticed something you got better than the QMX. In the first few episodes that I've seen so far, when the Farnsworth rings, the red lamp blinks exactly like yours. Yet on the QMX replica( I know the current ones are "props"), the lamp blinks with each pulse of the ring. Kind of like "Ring, Ring, Pause, Ring, Ring, Pause". Now I've not had the fortune of seeing one of the QMXs in person, but this is just what I've seen on YouTube reviews.

    I just got in on the new Jedibugs/RussRep run of the face plates, so I've been "studying" up on all things Farnsworth in preparation. I've not started collecting parts yet since I'm hoping as these new faceplates are delivered, I'll be able to get in on some group buys of the various knobs & switches, but I just had to say Thanks & let you know that your prop is exactly what I'm aspiring to.

    Well done, Sir!
     
  23. Nobby

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    Looks like I'm gonna have to copy your electronics setup! :)
     
  24. Usagi Pilgrim

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    Wow...as many times as I've read this thread, I never noticed that this was you.:facepalm

    Thanks to all for sharing in my "DUH" moment of the day.
     
  25. Gareee

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  26. jedibugs

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    Yeah, that's the one I used. I used all four push buttons... I wired them all to a rotary switch, so each position selects a different button to push.

    There's no built-in delay, so I just added different amounts of silence to play prior to the ring and programmed them into the different buttons.

    So, for the first button, I didn't have any silence.
    The second button plays 3 seconds of silence before looping the ringtone.
    The third has 5 seconds
    and the fourth has ten seconds.


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  27. Gareee

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    Clever! I might have to attempt this! I'm not sure if I crippled my right pushbuttons making them fit though. 8(
     
  28. eltee

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    Did you convert a knob like the one on the left side into the center knob or were you able to find a skirtless, red knob? Fantastic build.
     
  29. jedibugs

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    Well, it's not quite like the one on the left, but I did have to sand off the skirt and paint it brown. It's the same one linked to in the first post of the Farnsworth Discussion thread.


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  30. jedibugs

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    I'm not a fan of in-progress build threads, because I always itch to see the finished product (which can take FOR-EV-ER!) but I thought I'd just post a little teaser of what I'm currently working on...

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  31. Interceptor6

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    Oooooooh! That'll keep you out of trouble for a while!
    Hopefully not FOR-EV-ER!
    Good luck!
    Jeff
     
  32. justinobwi

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    Hey Jedi et. al.,

    I figured I would put this here as I think many look here for the wire diagram. I updated the wire diagram using the face plate to position everything. Couple of caveats here though. First I didn't use the same sound module. This one is the USB2Mv2 from the same site. So, no selecting different padded sounds (less wiring to deal with). Also this has a smaller (20mm instead of 40mm) speaker than the one that comes with the sound module. This was to save space. I have this idea of lacing a wire harness with old style cotton braided wires to make it look like it was from the early 20th century.

    I haven't tried, but it should print in the same size as the face plate.

    Sorry Visio would only let me export as .pdf for some reason the png plug in isn't there.

    I also have a two questions based on your design. First how did you attach the middle button to the face plate? Yours is flat on the back of the face plate and I am concerned about clearance. Second, do you have a source for the Switchcraft 201 momentary switch (or one that looks the same)? I haven't been able to find one that isn't really expensive or that I don't have to buy in bulk.

    Thanks
     
  33. gust242

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    wow that look cool
     
  34. gust242

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    Hello where did you get the delay switch from ? And a great build
     

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