eFX A New Hope Darth Vader Helmet

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Ah, but this IS from the Baker molds. The molds did produce a screen used helmet, if I recall. It is the same lineage as the Darth Jones helmet.

As to eFX, they DID consult an expert on Vader, just not a popular one. There are more than one of these guys out there, but Bryan went with Gino, which DID stir up a lot of jealousy. People do not want to see Gino's knowledge validated, and like it or not, he CAN finish a Vader like few others can. To say there is no bias here is a bald faced lie. I can think of a few other experts they could have called in that I would have agreed with, like Pete, or Paul, but let's not just dismiss Gino's knowledge because of his attitude here.

Dave, as far as the "defective castings", they can happen. Look at the dome differences between the Legend and the Limited when the prototypes were released. The Limited was almost perfect and the Legend had that glaringly warped dome. Both came from the same molds, so let's not let that develop into something it isn't.

As far people dismissing Thomas' opinion on the matter, he has done more than enough to burn any reputation he has had without help from a single other person. Now, when Darth Jones says he sees something off, it does give merit to Thomas' opinions. We cannot tell til we see production pieces come out.

 

[Darth Niob]

Don't you think you guys have made your point? This is not a "pulled from screen used molds" helmet. LFL is NEVER going to let anyone release a Vader helmet that is exactly like the real deal with every little scratch and dent. What you guys want requires buying a screen used helmet. Also since EFX decided to use Gino as their "vader expert" and not all you guys who are complaining, i am going to trust in EFX's expertise. You praise EFX and Bryan yet they did not go to you complainers for your Vader expertise they went to Gino.

Nonsense. I couldnt care less if its Gino or someone else. But this helmet is said by several persons here to be as close to the screen used as possible. And thats simply not the fact. This thread isnt about Gino or the RPF vs Den or that kind of bull****. Its about the eFX helmet with pro's and contra's. And it should be possible to talk about this lid without bashing or trolling or trying to miscredit one person or the other. Its an open forum and it should be allowed to say his opinion about everything discussed here.....if its positive or negativ. And this helmet, although its the best licensed prop ever (regarding SW helmets) could have been made better....and thats a fact.
And it also is a fact that the shipping quotes for this helmets outside the US are crazy. I got several Vader helmets sent with tracking for much less that 100 USD, so its definetly a point to discuss.

 

[Al May]

Nice to see them on the EFX site now, and even better to see they are limited to two per person,

 

[Clutch]

This Chinese factory paint job is scaring the bejezus out of me. I am also concerned that we won't see helmets until next year sometime.

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Nonsense. I couldnt care less if its Gino or someone else. But this helmet is said by several persons here to be as close to the screen used as possible. And thats simply not the fact. This thread isnt about Gino or the RPF vs Den or that kind of bull****. Its about the eFX helmet with pro's and contra's. And it should be possible to talk about this lid without bashing or trolling or trying to miscredit one person or the other. Its an open forum and it should be allowed to say his opinion about everything discussed here.....if its positive or negativ. And this helmet, although its the best licensed prop ever (regarding SW helmets) could have been made better....and thats a fact.
And it also is a fact that the shipping quotes for this helmets outside the US are crazy. I got several Vader helmets sent with tracking for much less that 100 USD, so its definetly a point to discuss.

Then by all means, discuss what you would have done differently. What changes would you make, if you were in eFX's shoes?

Also, if those shipping quotes are true, then that is a load of bull. It may well be too early to discuss the shipping, but as a best guess...woo. Screw that!

 

[apokai]

Nice to see them on the EFX site now, and even better to see they are limited to two per person,

They used same pics for the legend and limited edition. I'm no way an expert as most people seems to be here and it's hard for me to see the diffs except for the first shots of Gino's pics.

I know... you'll tell me to go with the limited version then but I also like the fact of the very limited amount of copies of the legend.

I just wish I could really see them side to side with the same ligthning.

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

No apokai, they are two different helmets. You can tell in the detailing. The Limited is cleaned up, the Legend is just about as you would see it on screen. Just look at the gunmetal paint on both cheeks. One is brushed, the other is sprayed and clean.

 

[Zombie Killer]

Nonsense. I couldnt care less if its Gino or someone else. But this helmet is said by several persons here to be as close to the screen used as possible. And thats simply not the fact.

Someone show me another replica Vader Helmet that is closer to the screen used helmet that is licensed?

 

[ArtisanProps]

I personally think this argument about "missing detail" is pointless. We all know
that efx CAN'T offer a 100% perfect casting. Just imagine if your a collector
and you own one of the original helmets that you spent your kids college savings
for.. Do you think you'd be happy if all of a sudden uncle George allowed a
company to release untainted castings that would surely devalue your
prized piece? I think being pissed would be an understatement of how you
would feel. I mean, come one, who the hell would want to spend 60 + thousand
dollars when everyone and their mammy can buy one for under a grand?

They ultimately have to clean the helmet a little in such a way that an EFX
can be distinquished from an original movie casting. Period. I think this is the
best offering EVER by a company and I applaud both Bryan and Gino for
their hard work. :thumbsup

 

[Darth Niob]

Someone show me another replica Vader Helmet that is closer to the screen used helmet that is licensed?

Thats the point. It IS be closet licensed helmet to the screen used one but the job could have been made better. You can see this clearly if you compare the eFX with the other helmets from that Rick Baker mold. Its not only because many of the finer details were removed and cleaned ....the dome is clearly not from the Baker mold but from another source (not from an authentic cast i think) and doesnt match to this facemask nor does it look like the screen helmet. And i dont think that this problem will be fixed because they dont have a better dome for this lid. Only the facemask is casted from the Baker mold but certainly not the dome.

 

[Zombie Killer]

Also they would never be able to authenticate real helmets if all the repros are the same as the real ones. The details that are filled in are EFX's tells. We all know George will never release an exact copy and it will be tough for any company to top what EFX is releasing. My only complaint is this $300 shipping quote i am getting to ship it from the west coast to the east coast. My SS Vader that came in 2 huge boxes was $100 and my Queen alien facehugger that has to have the biggest box ever was $120 so $300 is crazy.

 

[Zombie Killer]

Thats the point. It IS be closet licensed helmet to the screen used one but the job could have been made better.

I disagree. King George will never allow what you want to be released. You say it could have been better, yes i agree, it could have been an exact copy but it is not. It is a licensed product that has to be approved by LFL. Do you guys think EFX wouldn't have like to have released an unmodified helmet?

 

[Juansith]

Ok, lots of talking in code here .
Knowledge is power and i dont care if the people with knowledge are not liked or treated as trolls in this forum.
i would like to know their opinion based on facts, and photos.
What details are missing from this helmet?.

If what im asking for has been discussed in other thread or other forum, please give me the link or something, i really want to know whats missing from the Efx.Is it only a few scratches?, i dont know, i would love to know what im about to buy.

 

[Darth Niob]

Ok, lots of talking in code here .
Knowledge is power and i dont care if the people with knowledge are not liked or treated as trolls in this forum.
i would like to know their opinion based on facts, and photos.
What details are missing from this helmet?.

If what im asking for has been discussed in other thread or other forum, please give me the link or something, i really want to know whats missing from the Efx.Is it only a few scratches?, i dont know, i would love to know what im about to buy.

On the Prop Den is a thread in which you can see comparison shots between the eFX and the other helmet from the mold. You can clearly see the differences.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Again, things devolve to revolve around GINO, The Den and unneeded arguments. There are two sides to the coin and both sides seem to want to derail things from the topic at hand and make it personal.

I had a long reply made up, but then realized. What's the point. I would just add more to the OT of this thread and it will undoubtedly be seen as an attack on GINO, instead of trying to discuss the helmet, how it was made and the claims made about it. So, out of respect for eFX, the eFX ANH Vader helmet and the people looking forward to this piece and wanting to hear new info about it and seeing new pictures, I will not comment anymore, even if things I disagree with are uttered.

I do not want to continue bringing negativity to the thread or to the forum.

 

[Darth Niob]

Thats the point. It IS be closet licensed helmet to the screen used one but the job could have been made better. QUOTE]

I disagree. King George will never allow what you want to be released. You say it could have been better, yes i agree, it could have been an exact copy but it is not. It is a licensed product that has to be approved by LFL. Do you guys think EFX wouldn't have like to have released an unmodified helmet?

From this point of view its understandable but than the potential buyer has to know this. Its not an exact replica of the screen used helmet and not only because of some missing scratches and dents. Also it would have been better to offer a idealised version only instead of offering a version on which all the details were removed and some of them painted on again....that doesnt make sense.
And i should have been possible to offer a better dome for that mask and it should be clearly said in the items description that only the mask is from the Baker mold and not the complete helmet....its simply misleading.

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

On the Prop Den is a thread in which you can see comparison shots between the eFX and the other helmet from the mold. You can clearly see the differences.

Some folks are not willing to join the Den. Why not just show the answer to the question where a mass of people can actually see it?

 

[Darth Niob]

Some folks are not willing to join the Den. Why not just show the answer to the question where a mass of people can actually see it?

These are not my pics and i wont post these without permission from the owner. But you are a member of the Den Hector...so why not have a look at the comparison......and then tell me i'm wrong.

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

These are not my pics and i wont post these without permission from the owner. But you are a member of the Den Hector...so why not have a look at the comparison......and then tell me i'm wrong.

I have looked, and cannot tell you that you are wrong if they are the same pics I saw. We are talking about Thomas comparing his SL to the eFX pics posted here, right?

 

[Darth Niob]

We are talking about the same pics....thats right.