eFX A New Hope Darth Vader Helmet
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RKW
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Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
That's the problem right there, you say it's inaccurate which is just your opinion. It's an opinion that Gino doesn't agree with and I don't particularly agree with yours either. But every other person has their own opinion because there is no common consensus amongst us over the ANH helmet.
1) can't agree on lense colour
2) can't agree on how the helmet was painted
3) can't agree on how the cheek details should look
4) can't agree on how the tusks should look
5) cant' agree on how the metal tusks should look like.
****** the only thing anyone agrees on is that the dome was black. Even then there's debate over whether it was painted black or just polished gel coat!
That's the problem right there, you say it's inaccurate which is just your opinion. It's an opinion that Gino doesn't agree with and I don't particularly agree with yours either. But every other person has their own opinion because there is no common consensus amongst us over the ANH helmet.
1) can't agree on lense colour
2) can't agree on how the helmet was painted
3) can't agree on how the cheek details should look
4) can't agree on how the tusks should look
5) cant' agree on how the metal tusks should look like.
****** the only thing anyone agrees on is that the dome was black. Even then there's debate over whether it was painted black or just polished gel coat!
Too Much Garlic
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Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
Sure you can chalk it up to being just my opinion. With ANH Vader it's ALL just opinions as no one has access to the screen used ANH. It simply doesn't exist in that form anymore.
Sure you can chalk it up to being just my opinion. With ANH Vader it's ALL just opinions as no one has access to the screen used ANH. It simply doesn't exist in that form anymore.
vaderdarth
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Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
You can't use still photos to see the truth, watch the film. You will see every error pointed out here in short order. That doesn't take away from the best ANH helmet available to the general public EVER! It's a real beauty, but it is far from screen accurate. There are missing landmarks all over it. Someone needs to take a walk around video of the eFx helmet and it will answer lots of questions.
You can't use still photos to see the truth, watch the film. You will see every error pointed out here in short order. That doesn't take away from the best ANH helmet available to the general public EVER! It's a real beauty, but it is far from screen accurate. There are missing landmarks all over it. Someone needs to take a walk around video of the eFx helmet and it will answer lots of questions.
Qui-Gonzalez
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Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
There may well be photos we are not privy to, guys. I'm pretty sure LFL dropped some stuff on Gino that we will never see. You CAN garner stuff from screen caps, especially in regards to color. RKW, you are dead right. There will never be any amount of unity in the Vader community.
There may well be photos we are not privy to, guys. I'm pretty sure LFL dropped some stuff on Gino that we will never see. You CAN garner stuff from screen caps, especially in regards to color. RKW, you are dead right. There will never be any amount of unity in the Vader community.
StarWars Collector
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Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
IMO we should approach this "new eFX paint scheme" thing with an open mind. Remember the white AT-AT driver helmet; turned out to be grey. I'm not saying this situation is the same, I'm just stating that it COULD be. Stranger things have happened...So, without any rock solid proof either way I'll keep all options open.
It's obvious that this "new" paint scheme didn't appear out of nowhere and I'm sure there's a story behind it. So, just telling the Vader community that the way they've been painting their ANH helmets for the last 30 years is wrong, isn't good enough and just wouldn't be fair to all those (hardcore) Vader fans in the world.
IMO either Gino (Yeah....I know, it's like asking an elephant to grow wings and fly...but I'm optimistic here) and/or eFX should provide us with some info (pics and/or some footage) as to how they came to this "new" scheme.
Until then, it's just guessing based on assumptions, blurry pictures and wishful thinking.
Heck, theoretically there might even be a third option: both schemes are wrong...:lol
IMO we should approach this "new eFX paint scheme" thing with an open mind. Remember the white AT-AT driver helmet; turned out to be grey. I'm not saying this situation is the same, I'm just stating that it COULD be. Stranger things have happened...So, without any rock solid proof either way I'll keep all options open.
It's obvious that this "new" paint scheme didn't appear out of nowhere and I'm sure there's a story behind it. So, just telling the Vader community that the way they've been painting their ANH helmets for the last 30 years is wrong, isn't good enough and just wouldn't be fair to all those (hardcore) Vader fans in the world.
IMO either Gino (Yeah....I know, it's like asking an elephant to grow wings and fly...but I'm optimistic here) and/or eFX should provide us with some info (pics and/or some footage) as to how they came to this "new" scheme.
Until then, it's just guessing based on assumptions, blurry pictures and wishful thinking.
Heck, theoretically there might even be a third option: both schemes are wrong...:lol
Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
So how much is this Boba Fett helmet going to cost...:lol
So how much is this Boba Fett helmet going to cost...:lol
Qui-Gonzalez
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Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
Just a note; I now have more pics up of both the idealized and the standard. Took 360s of each. The lighting is certainly not ideal, but hopefully it will help.
eFX - a set on Flickr
Just a note; I now have more pics up of both the idealized and the standard. Took 360s of each. The lighting is certainly not ideal, but hopefully it will help.
eFX - a set on Flickr
KevVader
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Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
Again...thanks for the great pix, Art!
As much as some of the minute details are missing, this is still a must have for me....love it!:thumbsup
Beyond all the nitpicking here, ya gotta hand it to all those involved that finally brought a quality licensed Vader helmet like this to the mass market...honestly, I never thought I'd have seen the day...
Again...thanks for the great pix, Art!
As much as some of the minute details are missing, this is still a must have for me....love it!:thumbsup
Beyond all the nitpicking here, ya gotta hand it to all those involved that finally brought a quality licensed Vader helmet like this to the mass market...honestly, I never thought I'd have seen the day...
Qui-Gonzalez
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Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
Thanks for the new pics, Art. I'm 99% sold. I want to see them "off the line".
Thanks for the new pics, Art. I'm 99% sold. I want to see them "off the line".
blipper
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Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
To be fair to eFX, I think they have a job on their hands just convincing the less informed potential consumer that the original Vader helmet was unbelievably wonky and sloppily painted beyond belief. The hardcore fans are always going to be headache enough (I mean that in the fondest way). It really is an admirable choice by eFX, by far this is more about integrity than an easy cash grab and I wish them the best - it's a beautiful result.
Thanks again for the shots, Art.
To be fair to eFX, I think they have a job on their hands just convincing the less informed potential consumer that the original Vader helmet was unbelievably wonky and sloppily painted beyond belief. The hardcore fans are always going to be headache enough (I mean that in the fondest way). It really is an admirable choice by eFX, by far this is more about integrity than an easy cash grab and I wish them the best - it's a beautiful result.
Thanks again for the shots, Art.
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Great pics Art. Thank you. I am most surely getting one. I have a question though? Comparing the clean version to the rough version head on I have a hunch they switched domes by accident. The rough vader has from what I see a symmetrical dome while the clean version has the untouched and wonky unsymmetrical one. What does everyone think? Take a look side by side.
Art? What do you think. You saw these in the flesh. Is that one dome sanitized and you think it was meant for the clean version? This will make a HUGE difference in which one I buy? Again thanks for the pics and yes...this helmet is fantastic.
Carl
Great pics Art. Thank you. I am most surely getting one. I have a question though? Comparing the clean version to the rough version head on I have a hunch they switched domes by accident. The rough vader has from what I see a symmetrical dome while the clean version has the untouched and wonky unsymmetrical one. What does everyone think? Take a look side by side.
Art? What do you think. You saw these in the flesh. Is that one dome sanitized and you think it was meant for the clean version? This will make a HUGE difference in which one I buy? Again thanks for the pics and yes...this helmet is fantastic.
Carl
Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
Thanks again Art.
This comparison below illustrates what I pointed out before about dome warpage on the front flaring of the hand-painted version's dome. I hope they correct that on the final version. The idealized one only seems to have that warpage on Vader's left side, so it could be pull variation but if so then care should be taken in that regard. I don't see how someone could make a mistake like that in the pulls. This also shows the reworked widow's peak fairly clearly with a definite Y-shape sculpted in.
It would be good also to position the domes correctly, they are leaning too far backwards.
It is easier to see the eyebrow corners now, they've been cleaned up just a bit on the hand-painted one. The idealized one is so cleaned up as to not be worth discussing.
Thanks again Art.
This comparison below illustrates what I pointed out before about dome warpage on the front flaring of the hand-painted version's dome. I hope they correct that on the final version. The idealized one only seems to have that warpage on Vader's left side, so it could be pull variation but if so then care should be taken in that regard. I don't see how someone could make a mistake like that in the pulls. This also shows the reworked widow's peak fairly clearly with a definite Y-shape sculpted in.
It would be good also to position the domes correctly, they are leaning too far backwards.
It is easier to see the eyebrow corners now, they've been cleaned up just a bit on the hand-painted one. The idealized one is so cleaned up as to not be worth discussing.
Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
You have to consider that 1) people have been "playing" with these helmets for three days now, touching and moving things and 2) I know next to nothing about Vader, so getting the exact perfect positioning in a con environment is certainly not my forte.
You have to consider that 1) people have been "playing" with these helmets for three days now, touching and moving things and 2) I know next to nothing about Vader, so getting the exact perfect positioning in a con environment is certainly not my forte.
Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
Carl, Whether the domes may have been switched is a question for Gino. I don't know the helmets well enough (and honestly didn't look at the domes at all, only the faces) to know what goes with what. I only briefly glanced at the domes and they looked relatively the same to me. I am sure Gino will tell you they are completely different and could explain those differences, but I didn't study them enough to be able to say one way or another.
Carl, Whether the domes may have been switched is a question for Gino. I don't know the helmets well enough (and honestly didn't look at the domes at all, only the faces) to know what goes with what. I only briefly glanced at the domes and they looked relatively the same to me. I am sure Gino will tell you they are completely different and could explain those differences, but I didn't study them enough to be able to say one way or another.
Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
Ahh, I thought eFX and its representative's were positioning the pieces, thanks. But I think also they were tilted back a bit too much when they were on the eFX display itself.
If people can play with them, can we see the inside of the dome and top of the mask so as to see the mounting mechanism or has that not yet been finalized?
Ahh, I thought eFX and its representative's were positioning the pieces, thanks. But I think also they were tilted back a bit too much when they were on the eFX display itself.
If people can play with them, can we see the inside of the dome and top of the mask so as to see the mounting mechanism or has that not yet been finalized?
Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
No, they just allowed us to take them down for photos, but the helmets were all wonky from people touching them all day (people COMPLETELY ignore "Do NOT touch" signs) and from them moving the helmets to the front table for us to photograph.
I don't think the mounting mechanism has been finalized as I know these helmets were an absolute last second thing, but again, that would be better answered by Bryan or Gino.
No, they just allowed us to take them down for photos, but the helmets were all wonky from people touching them all day (people COMPLETELY ignore "Do NOT touch" signs) and from them moving the helmets to the front table for us to photograph.
I don't think the mounting mechanism has been finalized as I know these helmets were an absolute last second thing, but again, that would be better answered by Bryan or Gino.
StarWars Collector
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Re: eFX ANH Vader?!?! WOW
I was going to ask the same question...:lol
BTW: Thanks for these awesome pics Art!thumbsup
I was going to ask the same question...:lol
BTW: Thanks for these awesome pics Art!
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