eFX A New Hope Darth Vader Helmet

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We know LFL puts some constraints on the accuracy of their licensed pieces.

Please don't perpetuate this statement.

Every licensee I've ever spoken to has stated otherwise. Any compromise has come from cost or manufacturing limitations, period.
 
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WTH, what's another Vader helmet added to my collection..:rolleyes I just hope they get that tusk painted black (just doesn't look right without it)..2 cents
 
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I got more pics tonight of both helmets, but won't be able to get them up until the morning.
 
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WTH, what's another Vader helmet added to my collection..:rolleyes I just hope they get that tusk painted black (just doesn't look right without it)..2 cents

As far as I know they didn't have tusks up until the last seconds....they borrowed some just to complete the look....actual tusks on the finished product will differ
 
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Carsten is partly correct about the paint scheme....partly.

The left (Vader's left) side of the mouth triangle is gunmetal, at least on the Tantive IV. Earlier it may have been a darker color.

Both the right tusk tubes and triangle space between them are an off-black color, not gunmetal. Toward the tusks there is some gunmetal which is why it looks deceiving in the Tantive IV screen-caps. But you need still photo reference to pick it up properly.

Toward the rear between the tubes on the left there is a band of black paint under the gunmetal. You can see this behind the scenes when the dome comes off the mask when Prowse fights Guiness. The upper mask line should should be clear on a pull from the ILM mold, but I guess this was missed.

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The crescent shape on the lower left front cheek is gunmetal, not black.

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The left side of the U-shaped part of the nose is actually also gunmetal, the black doesn't extend down in that area.

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About the Comic Con casting itself, and I'll confine my comments to the hand-brushed one as that seems not to be as entirely cleaned up as the idealized one, plus Art's photos are useful enough to comment on.

1. What happened to the widow's peak? The top face is reworked and from the side it looks pushed in slightly.

2. The nose bridge looks distorted...narrower on the left side. I don't know if that's just this pull or an indication of the age of the mold.

3. Trimming of the teeth gaps is pretty shoddy, mainly on account of them being cut too wide in places for some odd reason.

4. No detail on the dome...at all. It isn't just the paint, there has been significant going over on the surface and the flaring edges to smooth them out. It almost looked to me initially like a GH dome, but I know it isn't.

5. Front flaring of the dome is warped in just a bit towards the mask.

6. Tubes ends were reworked...why? They taper down way too much and the tapering is too steep as well.

7. Mouth triangle corners could be sharper, that is to say with more acute angles.

8. Just as an aside, funny how the C-scar looks right, huh guys? :rolleyes

9. The top nose slot is reworked and is at the wrong angle to the horizontal, making the left side further from the middle slot than it should be. I also notice some tying in of the left upper eyebrow to meet the left side of the top nose slot for some reason which isn't representative of how it came out of the mold.

10. And I fail to understand that if someone wanted to replicate a Tantive IV-like mask, why would they leave the tube undercut filled in? This can be a golden opportunity to correct that temporary filler, but I guess just another example of something that was overlooked.

11. I hope the lens curvature will be better than that, especially given that the master pull has the original lens reference on it. The left lens especially has flattened, irregular areas and the original lens has a nice rounded uniform curve to it.

12. The tusks are entirely inaccurate, but in fairness I understand they were obtained at the last minute, which I find strange if Gino was involved "from the beginning", which he wasn't.

13. The upper eyebrows seem thinner, as well as the outer eye corners, but will need better images to confirm.

14. If people think they are getting the mask just as it came out of the mold, they aren't. There's been more cleanup than I expected. Even if you strip down the paint, I would have expected at least something like the indentation on the right side of the mouth triangle to be visible, although to be fair it really depends on how many coats of paint were used but I would think it would be painted so as to show off detail, not conceal it.
 
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Reading all this made my head spin. LOL Anyway I'm saving the money and can't wait


Hi guys. Comic Con is looking like it is going to just be amazing. I would really like to do a better shoot, but here are some initial pics of the hand painted Darth Vader helmet being displayed at the eFx booth. I didn't take pics of the idealized version, primarily because I didn't think too many people here would be overly concerned with that one.

eFX Booth - a set on Flickr

Thanks for the cool pics Art!!:thumbsup
 
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Glad to see that you all have been stirred up again.

Your passion is strong.

A sweet way to start the fiscal year!
 
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Its still going to be a very nice licensed replica - that you will probably buy at some point.
 
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As far as I'm concerned Thomas you're assessment of the paint around the nose is wrong.

Exhibit A:
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Exhibit B:

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People just need to understand that the entire helmet was originally gloss black with a gun metal wash applied to the entire faceplate. Some areas had very little applied such as under the left eye but there is still some evidence of it. The only areas that have a very heavy application of gun metal is the entire forehead, nose ridge, under the right eye and left cheek. All the other areas vary in the amount of black bleeding through. I'm sure the DP person onset added more or rubbed away some depending on the lighting conditions of the set. Continuous handling of the mask between takes will have also rubbed away the gun metal in places.

So long as EFX don't treat all the areas of gun metal as a solid colour and vary the intensity of its application then it should be fine.
 
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Thanks for posting those pics Art!

It sure is WAY more cleaned up than I had hoped for..if 1k is to be the asking price , I'd have to pass...

Still the nicest licenced Vader helmet ever for sure....
 
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Well I've looked at every angle and my conclusion is that it is gunmetal. The oblique views from above are not conclusive since the side of the mouth looks the same hue as the side of the nose and we know the side of the mouth is gunmetal (although perhaps slightly darker hue than the front of the cheek on that side).

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Don't get me wrong, I also think this is great to have a licensed version of the ANH Vader helmet. After all I had discussed this with Master Replicas and then again with eFX a long time ago (early 2008, by which time they were already trying to source material for it and I know they were then in touch with Brian Muir about the concept as well). That being said I think we all would like it to see it be the best it can be, and so at the prototype stage is where I think we should have some kind of critical input....la-dee-da's aside, especially since we are dealing with something sourced from a mold that is now 33 years old.
 
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All you're seeing Thomas is light reflection. Exhibit B should have been the nail in the coffin even for you.
 
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I think you're mistaking light glares for gunmetal in both the nose and the "crescent shape", and shadows for what you call a black strip toward the back.
 
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Funny how the center picture in his comparison shows black where he is trying to show gunmetal. Don't put much stock in grainy photos, guys. Hey, Exhibit A shows gunmetal brushed on that side of the mouth pretty well too.
 
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Based on all those photos I see gunmetal on the left side of the nose with a narrow black strip down the middle. So it's both gunmetal and black.

Exhibit B is a black shadow/ reflection. Photos that are high contrast (i.e burnt out highlights and crushed blacks) can be very deceiving, especially with a reflective surface like the Vader helmet. Plus the key light in the exhibit B photo is coming from above and causing a overexposure on the top of the nose and then a harsh shadow below it making it look all black.

The exhibit A photo has a much better low contrast exposure and shows the details of the paintwork better (ie highlights are not washed out/ blacks are not crushed). If you look closely you'll see a narrow black strip on the side of the nose surrounded by gunmetal, some of SL's photos with good exposure show the same thing. It looks as though it was painted black over gunmetal and then perhaps some of the black was rubbed off, perhaps intentionally or perhaps by accident. Or maybe it was just painted that way.
 
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