:facepalm Totally forgot about that. It was a while ago, sorry.
DIY solution for clear soles for MAG shoes
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I believe that if you pour shoe shoe goo at a greater height that there will be less bubbles. That's how it is with mold and casting materials anyway.
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cavx
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Shoe Goo doesn't pour like elastomer or resins. It is too thick. I found the best way to reduce bubbles with shoe goo is to load in in a syringe and squirt it as a fine stream. This in essence would the same principle as the drop pour method where the stream created is too thin to hold bubbles, so they pop.
Interesting. Thanks for the tip.
cavx
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It also allow you to get the Goo into small holes and gaps rather then have to skin over the top. If you want to keep using the syringe, wash it out by loading with water when your done. Water makes the Shoe Goo skin and it then can be scraped off. The main point is make sure you squirt water through the end so the Goo doesn't dry hard inside.
I go to my local chemist and tell them that I am gluing plastic with a solvent (I also use the syringes for that) and they have no problems supplying them for $.50 each. I think last time, I bought a pack of 10. They will fail over time, so be prepared to throw them out at some point.
And no the needles don't work with Shoe Goo because it is too thick, so just the plastic end is all you use.
I go to my local chemist and tell them that I am gluing plastic with a solvent (I also use the syringes for that) and they have no problems supplying them for $.50 each. I think last time, I bought a pack of 10. They will fail over time, so be prepared to throw them out at some point.
And no the needles don't work with Shoe Goo because it is too thick, so just the plastic end is all you use.
I have had this idea for a while and I'm wondering if it would work. My idea is to use a vac former with 1/4 inch thick translucent silicone rubber. And use the pyramid mat to replicate in the rubber, cut out the shapes you need, then put shoe goo over it to make it stronger. Is this possible or would the rubber get ruined in the oven?
cavx
Master Member
A couple things:
1. The rubber might change its structure with that kind of heat.
2. The mold your using can't be rubber or vinyl because the heat will deform that. You might get a decent pull from plaster though if the plaster was reinforced with some kind of mesh.
3. You would need small holes in between every pyramid and that is allot of holes to drill for a one off. If you plan to make many and sell them off, maybe. Still allot of work and you will need something quite hard to handle the process.
1. The rubber might change its structure with that kind of heat.
2. The mold your using can't be rubber or vinyl because the heat will deform that. You might get a decent pull from plaster though if the plaster was reinforced with some kind of mesh.
3. You would need small holes in between every pyramid and that is allot of holes to drill for a one off. If you plan to make many and sell them off, maybe. Still allot of work and you will need something quite hard to handle the process.
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Damn. Back to square one then. I literally have no options left. I would consider buying them from S02, but since I'm modding the sides of the mid soles on my MPs, his clear soles wouldn't fit. If only there was pyramid matting that was made of metal.
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cavx
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It is not an easy project and that is why only 3 clear sole projects are out there. You need special tools (Vac Chamber which I didn't have at the time) and skills for mold making.
When I do this again, I will most likey still do this as a flat sheet that when placed in the Vac Chamber will allow the bubbles to easily pulled. What I don't know is if the vacuum will boil the stuff creating new bubbles as it does with resins.
If your project is a success, would you considering selling sheets of it? I'd be up to buying some if the price was right. And is there a way to make the shoe goo translucent and not just straight clear? Maybe adding a tiny bit of white paint.
Fingers crossed. You may just save my MP Nike MAG project. And maybe for other people too. And do you mean 11KG of shoe goo, or like actual casting rubber?
That looks great! Very well done.
cavx
Master Member
Silicone test #2
Close up
Back lit with CYAN light
Because this is just a test, I didn't bother with neat edges. In fact some of the rubber tore as I removed it.
The close up shot may not show this, but the squares are indeed recessed into the rubber producing the perfect "waffle" effect.
And as you can see from the 3rd image, it back lights beautifully.
This was made with bathroom silicone and an ice cube. I squeezed a heap of silicone onto the left outer-sole of the size US11 V1 K-MAG sole and then smoothed into shape with the ice cube.
After 2 days, I peeled it off the sole and it matched up to the right sole. This method could be used to make perfect fitting left and right sides.
Close up
Back lit with CYAN light
Because this is just a test, I didn't bother with neat edges. In fact some of the rubber tore as I removed it.
The close up shot may not show this, but the squares are indeed recessed into the rubber producing the perfect "waffle" effect.
And as you can see from the 3rd image, it back lights beautifully.
This was made with bathroom silicone and an ice cube. I squeezed a heap of silicone onto the left outer-sole of the size US11 V1 K-MAG sole and then smoothed into shape with the ice cube.
After 2 days, I peeled it off the sole and it matched up to the right sole. This method could be used to make perfect fitting left and right sides.
Yes the goal is to build these out so they look like the RD MAG soles.
Canobi
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Very cool thread :cool I've been looking for a casting elastomer that isn't too nasty. Good find, and thanks for sharing :thumbsup
*edit* holy cow this thread got busy while I was typing :eek, removed moot comment :lol
I also found an alternative to Ultracal30 here in the UK. It's called Cassini's plaster (£6.45 for 5kg).
*edit* holy cow this thread got busy while I was typing :eek, removed moot comment :lol
I also found an alternative to Ultracal30 here in the UK. It's called Cassini's plaster (£6.45 for 5kg).
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