Disney could sell Lucasfilm ?

Years ago I was cautiously optimistic when the sale was announced, though like most fans I was shocked that they were making more Star Wars films at all when they announced 7, 8, and 9. We'd been told for about a decade, factoring in the press interviews during the production of Ep. 2 until 2012, that the series would end with Episode 3 and George was pretty adamant about it. I wasn't wild about the Prequels but I'd come to terms with them and I figured the series would live on like it did in the late 80's through '97, as comics, novels, games, etc. For all intents and purposes, Star Wars was officially over. Then suddenly in late 2012, it wasn't. No one saw that coming.

At this point so much has happened both in the real world and with the narrative/ image of Lucasfilm that it really doesn't matter to me if it gets sold or they keep it. I'm only interested in this whole thing as a case study on business, film narrative, and culture. Ultimately it's relevance to movies as an artform is what fascinates me because we're seeing industry wide shifts that leaves so much uncertainty in their wake. That doesn't necessarily have to be bad though. What is clear is that general audiences are craving novelty and I think we can all benefit from it because Hollywood will follow the money wherever it leads. Hopefully that will convince them to pursue things other than this dying franchise model that's kept them creatively inhibited for decades.

Yeah I've completely checked out as far as SW and Lucasfilm. I think for the OT fans, they've damaged the brand to a point where they probably can't come back. The only thing I'm mildly interested in is the second season of Andor.
 
Yeah I've completely checked out as far as SW and Lucasfilm. I think for the OT fans, they've damaged the brand to a point where they probably can't come back. The only thing I'm mildly interested in is the second season of Andor.

I think the Lucas-era SW fans need to agree on a rallying cry: "We want everything after ROTJ thrown out." Or maybe "Everything from the Disney era gets thrown out."

Disney is a big stupid indifferent corporation. The fans' wishes need to be bumper-sticker-simple, and practically unanimous, or the studio won't listen.
 
Yeah I've completely checked out as far as SW and Lucasfilm. I think for the OT fans, they've damaged the brand to a point where they probably can't come back. The only thing I'm mildly interested in is the second season of Andor.
I only care about the original trilogy. I thought the prequels were crap. I think the sequels are crap. There is nothing to come back to because, as far as I'm concerned, Star Wars has been done for 40 years.

That said, if they'd just make good movies, I'd probably watch them. I thought Rogue One was decent. Everything else that Disney has made that I've seen has sucked. Therefore, I haven't watched a single one of the TV shows, nor do I have any interest.

The takeaway here is for Disney to make good movies. Not Star Wars movies. Not Indiana Jones movies. Good movies. If they make a good movie that has Star Wars in it, I'll probably watch it. I won't watch it BECAUSE it's Star Wars, I'll only watch it because it's good.

They're really bad at that right now.
 
I think the Lucas-era SW fans need to agree on a rallying cry: "We want everything after ROTJ thrown out." Or maybe "Everything from the Disney era gets thrown out."

Disney is a big stupid indifferent corporation. The fans' wishes need to be bumper-sticker-simple, and practically unanimous, or the studio won't listen.
See, I don't even care about that. I'm not a fan of the "franchise". I like what I like. I don't care what is officially in or out. I care if they make good, engaging movies with intelligent plots, entertaining characters and worthwhile stories.

Disney isn't doing any of that right now.
 
My argument assumes that there is an improvement in quality too. I think that will happen sooner or later (once they get rid of Kennedy and Iger). The quality of SW in the last decade has arguably been below-average for the entire TV/film industry.
 
I only care about the original trilogy. I thought the prequels were crap. I think the sequels are crap. There is nothing to come back to because, as far as I'm concerned, Star Wars has been done for 40 years.

That said, if they'd just make good movies, I'd probably watch them. I thought Rogue One was decent. Everything else that Disney has made that I've seen has sucked. Therefore, I haven't watched a single one of the TV shows, nor do I have any interest.

The takeaway here is for Disney to make good movies. Not Star Wars movies. Not Indiana Jones movies. Good movies. If they make a good movie that has Star Wars in it, I'll probably watch it. I won't watch it BECAUSE it's Star Wars, I'll only watch it because it's good.

They're really bad at that right now.

I'm from the OT generation and I like the Prequels, despite the flaws, so my SW movies only go OT, Prequels, Rogue One, and occasionally SOLO. I think SOLO looks like SW, but it still has some flaws. I think the old Han Solo novels from the 80s and the A.C. Crispin novels from the late 90s did young Han better. At least they had Lando reference those 80s books in the movie.


Deleted: The merry go round of “ I have no interest in these things, but here’s my opinion on them anyway” just goes round and round

Hey if we didn't vent we'd all end up like the guy in Falling Down.
 
Hey if we didn't vent we'd all end up like the guy in Falling Down.

I'm not sure whether it helps or not.



We all know a guy like Walter in real life.

It's not that he keeps his opinions too bottled-up. That's not the problem.


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Well according to rumors, Iger’s not just willing to sell Lucasfilm but the whole damn company to Apple.


I think its just pure speculation since I dont think Apple has the will or cash to just buy all of Disney but it seems Iger is working on selling off tv studios and looking to cut costs like co-owning ESPN.

Probably means Lucasfilm is still going to be under Disney for the time being.

When it comes to Star Wars that I want to recognize as canon, I would say anything created under Lucas is good while anything under Disney, not so. Mainly because Lucas is the “creator” of Star Wars. If you want to say its a collaboration between George, Marcia, and Gary; then I guess only OT counts.
 
Selling off different parts of Disney to multiple buyers would make it smaller and could be a good thing if they went that route however unlikely it is.
 
I'd be surprised if they would allow a company the size of Apple to acquire a company the size of Disney. I would think it would set off alarm bells with the FTC.
 
I'd be surprised if they would allow a company the size of Apple to acquire a company the size of Disney. I would think it would set off alarm bells with the FTC.
Agreed, but if we’re talking about Disney divesting some of its subdivisions (i.e. LucasFilm), it would be no different than when Disney bought LF…

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Well according to rumors, Iger’s not just willing to sell Lucasfilm but the whole damn company to Apple.


I think its just pure speculation since I dont think Apple has the will or cash to just buy all of Disney but it seems Iger is working on selling off tv studios and looking to cut costs like co-owning ESPN.

Probably means Lucasfilm is still going to be under Disney for the time being.

When it comes to Star Wars that I want to recognize as canon, I would say anything created under Lucas is good while anything under Disney, not so. Mainly because Lucas is the “creator” of Star Wars. If you want to say its a collaboration between George, Marcia, and Gary; then I guess only OT counts.

Like Apple would even WANT Disney…

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Disney is fixable if they roll enough heads in upper management. It has a lot of valuable assets.

Well, they have almost hit rock-bottom and have no where to go but up…

Wow…

“Disney’s streaming services have been losing money and subscribers — Disney+ lost 4 million subscribers last quarter. Streaming is expected to have hit a total loss of $800 million in the third quarter…”

I don’t get it…This couldn’t have to do with all that “outstanding, family-friendly content” on the streaming platform that Disney is know for, right?
 
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Disney is fixable if they roll enough heads in upper management. It has a lot of valuable assets.
I don't even know if that's possible, at least not for many, many years to come. They have pissed off their core audience, families who want to show their movies to their children. Those people are not coming back any time soon.
 
Well, they have almost hit rock-bottom and have no where to go but up…

Wow…

“Disney’s streaming services have been losing money and subscribers — Disney+ lost 4 million subscribers last quarter. Streaming is expected to have hit a total loss of $800 million in the third quarter…”

I don’t get it…This couldn’t have to do with all that “outstanding, family-friendly content” on the streaming platform that Disney is know for, right?
Disney's cruise line has lost $300 million this year too. Park attendance is at a 10 year low and they are having one of the worst years the company has had in 50 years.

They are a mess right now.
 
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