Disney buying Lucasfilm (new Star Wars movies on tap)

Please....

All disney has to do is say, hey, we think we can make you a couple million bucks (or more) by restoring the original versions. We'll pay for all the work. You in? Fox would do it in a heart beat.
 
Please....

All disney has to do is say, hey, we think we can make you a couple million bucks (or more) by restoring the original versions. We'll pay for all the work. You in? Fox would do it in a heart beat.

You know, if they actually tried really hard, we could have maybe seven or eight versions of the original Star Wars movie available on just one BluRay disc with Seamless Branching and multiple audio options. I know that the theatrical edition is the ultimate goal, but what about the video releases to? I'm certain that there are some Star Wars fans who did not see the original in theaters would find it cool to have 'their' first version of Star Wars they saw on home video since they have been reported to have noticeable edits. The Title in the opening scroll, C-3PO's description of the tractor beam, the "Close the Blast Doors!" omission.
 
Please....

All disney has to do is say, hey, we think we can make you a couple million bucks (or more) by restoring the original versions. We'll pay for all the work. You in? Fox would do it in a heart beat.

Not really. That's meaningless money and if all they retain post 2020 is ANH they are going to hold on to that for dear life. No deals, no revenue sharing.
 
Again, that's DISTRIBUTION rights. Big difference between that and rights to the film. I think I made the case way back that what it means in the real world is that Disney either needs to tell Fox they get to distribute, and take the windfall from that, Fox shares distribution credit (like those weird CBS logos on my early VHS copies), or Disney needs to dump a truckload of cash on Fox to make them go away entirely. None of those are insurmountable. What's encouraging is that the source that first broke the aquisition news, AND the Episode 7 news (that one WWWWAAAAAY back in the early summer) has specifically commented that Disney is very keen to complete and release a proper, current generation restoration of the OT.

And why wouldn't they be interested in revenue sharing? Without the actual property to distribute, they get bupkis from having distribution rights. Some cash for either distributing someone else's movies to retail, or some more cash for selling that right, vs no cash for petulantly sitting on the distribution. It's a corporation, what option do you think most likely?
 
You know, if they actually tried really hard, we could have maybe seven or eight versions of the original Star Wars movie available on just one BluRay disc with Seamless Branching and multiple audio options. I know that the theatrical edition is the ultimate goal, but what about the video releases to? I'm certain that there are some Star Wars fans who did not see the original in theaters would find it cool to have 'their' first version of Star Wars they saw on home video since they have been reported to have noticeable edits. The Title in the opening scroll, C-3PO's description of the tractor beam, the "Close the Blast Doors!" omission.

Interesting question - has ANY BD release EVER made use of the branching feature that way? I've heard fans throw the idea around, but I've never seen the technology in practice, so no idea if it actually works. I get this impression of the branching feature I saw on a handful of DVDs, Memento, and one of the X-Men movies maybe? - there was always a distracting pause as the thing jumped VOBs. If this would truly be seamless, then who wouldn't love that as an option?
 
Fox and LucasFilm have already released a DVD of the original laser disc release. It is a very limited audience release item that doesn't support the cost if distribution or marketing.
 
Interesting question - has ANY BD release EVER made use of the branching feature that way?

The BluRay edition of ALIEN has both the 1979 theatrical edition and the 2003 Director's Cut. The differences between these two cuts are precise and cover every level from visual effects, different cut aways, added sound effects and even footage with different color coding.
 
Fox and LucasFilm have already released a DVD of the original laser disc release. It is a very limited audience release item that doesn't support the cost if distribution or marketing.

Foolishness. That release was practically doomed from the start for various different reasons. If there was ever a textbook example of a company trying to sabotage their own product, that unaltered release of the original Star Wars trilogy would be it.

  1. It came packaged with the original DVD, so those who purchased the original release now have this extra disc of the "Special Edition" version of the movie.
  2. It was billed as a bonus feature. The multi-award winning film series has been reduced to a bonus feature....
  3. The absolute bare minimum was done in restoration. It ignoring DVD standards with no anamorphic widescreen and only 2.0 audio. Quite an impressive feet when you consider that unaltered footage of the original movies WAS presented in anamorphic widescreen for the Empire of Dreams documentary.
 
Foolishness. That release was practically doomed from the start for various different reasons. If there was ever a textbook example of a company trying to sabotage their own product, that unaltered release of the original Star Wars trilogy would be it.

  1. It came packaged with the original DVD, so those who purchased the original release now have this extra disc of the "Special Edition" version of the movie.
  2. It was billed as a bonus feature. The multi-award winning film series has been reduced to a bonus feature....
  3. The absolute bare minimum was done in restoration. It ignoring DVD standards with no anamorphic widescreen and only 2.0 audio. Quite an impressive feet when you consider that unaltered footage of the original movies WAS presented in anamorphic widescreen for the Empire of Dreams documentary.

Agreed. Yet it's the only DVD copy I have. ;)
 
Yeah, I purchased the 2006 release. It's the only set of the OT I've bought since I snagged the THX Letterbox editions on VHS back in the late 90s on ebay. Everything else has been..."unofficial."

There's a market for it. It's gonna happen.
 
I would have basically no issues with the SE's if they weren't the only choice. I want the originals, but am okay with also having the SE's if it is a package deal - but they have to be of equal visual and audio quality.

If a new restoration is to be done I hope they choose the company that did the new The Terminator BR restoration. That's one impressive piece of work... and I thought the previous Terminator BR release was pretty impressive... but when comparing the two it's like comparing DVD to BR. It's THAT good.

The ones who restored Star Wars - honestly, they ****ed up with DNR, sharpening, weird colors, etc.. It basically looks like a over-saturated cartoon/comic book world.
 
Lowry Digital did the restoration originally, but apparently they did it to Lucasfilm specs, or handed it over to Lucasfilm at a certain point. Lowry's the same company that did North by Northwest and the Bond restorations, so it's not like they don't know what they're doing.

I think if they did a job on Star Wars like they did with Bond, I'd absolutely trust them to do solid work.
 
And I've heard several mention that the Bond films have the same ****ed up DNR, sharpening, weird colors, etc. as the Star Wars series, so yes, in my view, they are the wrong kind of restorators, similar to the company that ****ed up the new Predator release. I do not particularly like a company that ****s with the original look of a movie.

Go check The Terminator for a proper restoration.
 
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I've found the Bond restoration to be quite good. There are changes from the VHS, but I don't find them cartoony at all. Nor did I see a lot of overdone DNR (although I'm not usually looking for it). I can see the checked or herringbone pattern of Bond's suit jacket, for example.
 
Whatever happened to the mastering work on the original trilogy, it was pretty evident that someone applied a 'blue tint' to the overall picture quality. The most evident example is in the Empire Strikes Back Hoth sequences.

This is a clip of Adywan's fan edit of the Empire Strike's Back showing the work he's done to the color coding.
 
The color timing stuff in the DVD restoration is atrociously bad. Like, you can tell when the palette shifts, and it's pretty radical when it does.

It's just a really poorly done transfer, but I gather it wasn't because of Lowry dropping the ball.
 
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