Dexter Season 7 and 8
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PotionMistress
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Re: Dexter Season 7
I don’t understand why anyone would have a problem with a small flashback scene…it makes it more compelling trying to guess where and why he may be fleeing, etc.
This season looks to be absolutely enthralling. I have always thought that at some point,
Deb would find out or figure out that Dexter was a serial killer. But what is so interesting about this situation is that Deb truly loves Dexter and is the ONLY one who understands what his situation is and what was going on in their childhoods.
This will actually be therapeutic for both Deb and Dexter, as all the puzzles of Debs life, her father’s absence, his extra time spent with Dexter as kids, Debs problems with men, Dexter’s brother trying to kill her, etc….this will start her thinking about all the things in the past that didn’t make sense and now do for her. The pieces of the puzzle will finally be falling into place.
Plus, her situation at work is precarious, and Dexter could kill (no pun intended) two birds with one stone by helping her political situation by solving crimes and get rid of the real evils.
It will also be cathartic, in a way for Dexter…to be able to share this part of him with the only other person in the world other than his father, who could understand why he is the way he is, and how he has channeled this need to kill for ‘good’, by training from their father.
Oh, I could go on and on, but I think this is such an exciting show…and it’s off to another great season.
I don’t understand why anyone would have a problem with a small flashback scene…it makes it more compelling trying to guess where and why he may be fleeing, etc.
This season looks to be absolutely enthralling. I have always thought that at some point,
Deb would find out or figure out that Dexter was a serial killer. But what is so interesting about this situation is that Deb truly loves Dexter and is the ONLY one who understands what his situation is and what was going on in their childhoods.
This will actually be therapeutic for both Deb and Dexter, as all the puzzles of Debs life, her father’s absence, his extra time spent with Dexter as kids, Debs problems with men, Dexter’s brother trying to kill her, etc….this will start her thinking about all the things in the past that didn’t make sense and now do for her. The pieces of the puzzle will finally be falling into place.
Plus, her situation at work is precarious, and Dexter could kill (no pun intended) two birds with one stone by helping her political situation by solving crimes and get rid of the real evils.
It will also be cathartic, in a way for Dexter…to be able to share this part of him with the only other person in the world other than his father, who could understand why he is the way he is, and how he has channeled this need to kill for ‘good’, by training from their father.
Oh, I could go on and on, but I think this is such an exciting show…and it’s off to another great season.
Solo4114
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Re: Dexter Season 7
Well, there's "poetic license" and there's "zero relationship to reality." The show likes to, mostly, ground itself in our world, but apparently Dexter's world is one where the TSA doesn't exist and people paying cash for a same-day ticket don't instantly get jumped by airport security. I mean, that one's such a no-brainer it's not even funny.
I still went with it, but it really distracted me while watching. I was half expecting it to be a dream sequence, given how they handled the "shaky cam" stuff.
Mostly, though, what I object to in this show (and have for several seasons) are cheap, manipulative attempts to mess with the audience, and lazy handling of plot points. The thing with Mike was a classic example of the particular kind of bad writing this show can indulge in.
Don't get me wrong. When the show's on, man is it ON. But when it's off, it's REALLY off. "I think I'm gonna go investigate Dexter. Let me just check out this random guy's trunk even though he's nervously waving me off and -- hey look at that! A sucking chest wound! >gack< >thud<" Well. Wasn't that convenient. Mike's out of the show, AND we've got a tie to the new "big bad" for this season! It's too easy and it doesn't ring true, just like Dex getting a same-day plane ticket with cash and nobody batting an eye. Hello? Terrorist watch-list anyone?
Well, there's "poetic license" and there's "zero relationship to reality." The show likes to, mostly, ground itself in our world, but apparently Dexter's world is one where the TSA doesn't exist and people paying cash for a same-day ticket don't instantly get jumped by airport security. I mean, that one's such a no-brainer it's not even funny.
I still went with it, but it really distracted me while watching. I was half expecting it to be a dream sequence, given how they handled the "shaky cam" stuff.
Mostly, though, what I object to in this show (and have for several seasons) are cheap, manipulative attempts to mess with the audience, and lazy handling of plot points. The thing with Mike was a classic example of the particular kind of bad writing this show can indulge in.
Don't get me wrong. When the show's on, man is it ON. But when it's off, it's REALLY off. "I think I'm gonna go investigate Dexter. Let me just check out this random guy's trunk even though he's nervously waving me off and -- hey look at that! A sucking chest wound! >gack< >thud<" Well. Wasn't that convenient. Mike's out of the show, AND we've got a tie to the new "big bad" for this season! It's too easy and it doesn't ring true, just like Dex getting a same-day plane ticket with cash and nobody batting an eye. Hello? Terrorist watch-list anyone?
Rbeato
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Re: Dexter Season 7
Enjoying the season so far. 2 episodes down and still looking good. LaGuerta stating to get onto him, Louis in some way, and now "the brotherhood" will be next week. Things may get very intense. Kind of like Ray Stevenson too even though he hasn't had much screen time. May turn out to be a very brutal guy.
Still hoping at the end of the show dex isn't dead or in jail.
Enjoying the season so far. 2 episodes down and still looking good. LaGuerta stating to get onto him, Louis in some way, and now "the brotherhood" will be next week. Things may get very intense. Kind of like Ray Stevenson too even though he hasn't had much screen time. May turn out to be a very brutal guy.
Still hoping at the end of the show dex isn't dead or in jail.
PotionMistress
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Re: Dexter Season 7
I'm just loving this season also...so worried about Deb coming to grips with this. I hope they show Deb and Dexter talking a little more about why and how and what he is about and done. If I was Deb, I'd have a MILLION questions for him. Afterall, his answers could and should hold so many pieces to the puzzles of her own life.
I'm just loving this season also...so worried about Deb coming to grips with this. I hope they show Deb and Dexter talking a little more about why and how and what he is about and done. If I was Deb, I'd have a MILLION questions for him. Afterall, his answers could and should hold so many pieces to the puzzles of her own life.
Prop Collector
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Re: Dexter Season 7
I'm shocked by how good it is so far. Season 1 quality.
I'm shocked by how good it is so far. Season 1 quality.
Rbeato
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Re: Dexter Season 7
i'm sure she will keep que stioning him. the writers of the show mentioned how she will keep finding out more and more to eventually learn pretty much everything. should be great.
looks like in next weeks preview when Isaac and crew walks up to dexs boat Louis in on it. you can tell its him from the shirt. atleast thats what i think. so long louis
i'm sure she will keep que stioning him. the writers of the show mentioned how she will keep finding out more and more to eventually learn pretty much everything. should be great.
looks like in next weeks preview when Isaac and crew walks up to dexs boat Louis in on it. you can tell its him from the shirt. atleast thats what i think. so long louis
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Solo4114
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Re: Dexter Season 7
I'm on the fence about this. I particularly did NOT like the whole "I can find redemption! Wait, no I can't" angle to this episode, mostly because we did that all last season with Brother Sam.
Also, the whole "All I see is blood" thing seemed a bit off, since we've never heard ANYTHING about that from Dexter's internal monologue. And I think it's about time for Dexter to smack Harry and tell him to sit down and shut up.
I'm on the fence about this. I particularly did NOT like the whole "I can find redemption! Wait, no I can't" angle to this episode, mostly because we did that all last season with Brother Sam.
Also, the whole "All I see is blood" thing seemed a bit off, since we've never heard ANYTHING about that from Dexter's internal monologue. And I think it's about time for Dexter to smack Harry and tell him to sit down and shut up.
mmarlon brando
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Re: Dexter Season 7
EW had a line in their spoilers column that might prove your theory:
"You know how Dexter hates living with Deb, wants to kill again, and is getting increasingly frustrated with Louis? At least two things won’t be a problem by the end of next week’s episode."
cboath
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Re: Dexter Season 7
Unless you're just indiscriminantly kililng everything in sight, I'd think that a recurring theme would be redemption. In comparing to addiction in the show, the inference is that addicts can change. If you truly want to stop (even if it's not possible) you're likely going to jump at any chance of learning how to redeem yourself.
It's one thing when no one knows what's going on, but when Deb finds out, i'm sure there's big motivation to want to quit. Again, not saying it's possible and that's pretty much what the episode said - but if there's any desire to quit, you'd tend to take any shot at it you could.
I find it interesting everything that's going on and knowing there is a season 8 and possibly a 9 yet to come.
If I had my choice LaGuerta would get it soon. Can't stand her
Unless you're just indiscriminantly kililng everything in sight, I'd think that a recurring theme would be redemption. In comparing to addiction in the show, the inference is that addicts can change. If you truly want to stop (even if it's not possible) you're likely going to jump at any chance of learning how to redeem yourself.
It's one thing when no one knows what's going on, but when Deb finds out, i'm sure there's big motivation to want to quit. Again, not saying it's possible and that's pretty much what the episode said - but if there's any desire to quit, you'd tend to take any shot at it you could.
I find it interesting everything that's going on and knowing there is a season 8 and possibly a 9 yet to come.
If I had my choice LaGuerta would get it soon. Can't stand her
Solo4114
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Re: Dexter Season 7
Wait, waht? This is the last season, I heard. They're wrapping it up now. That's WHY Deb found out, I thought.
As for the whole redemption thing, I think that's absolutely got to be part of the story. The problem I have is that each season seems to have Dexter grow as a character, until they hit the reset button at the end and it's like the season didn't really matter. That's been especially true in S5 and S6. "Yay! I found redemption and -- wait. Never mind. I'm a bad guy." "Yay! I found love and redemption and -- wait. She left. never mind. I'm a bad guy."
Dexter also doesn't seem to reference back to those events, either, so it's almost like they never happened or didn't count somehow when, I would think, his experiences in ALL of the seasons -- finding Lila who accepted him (sorta), getting close to Miguel Prado, trying to structure his life like Trinity and seeing the consequences, the thing with Brother Sam, meeting umm...Julia Stiles (I forget her character's name) and finding someone he could coexist with......all of that stuff just didn't seem to count for a ton. Even Rita's death didn't seem to stick with him very long. He had one bad moment the episode after...and then it was like everything was back to business as usual.
Mostly I blame the writers for that. The actors are top-notch. I think they play what's given to them exceptionally well and make it as believable as you can be, under the circumstances. But the writing's been spotty in recent years. It looks like they're tightening things up now, which is good, but I guess I'm wary from multiple seasons of "Oh come on. THIS crap again? You're just gonna jerk us around and you know it."
I know a lot of people hated last season with the religious killer(s), but I loved it if only because it didn't seem to really be about the same old stuff. It actually seemed to kinda change things up, and something from that season really resonated the following season in a BIG way.
Unless you're just indiscriminantly kililng everything in sight, I'd think that a recurring theme would be redemption. In comparing to addiction in the show, the inference is that addicts can change. If you truly want to stop (even if it's not possible) you're likely going to jump at any chance of learning how to redeem yourself.
It's one thing when no one knows what's going on, but when Deb finds out, i'm sure there's big motivation to want to quit. Again, not saying it's possible and that's pretty much what the episode said - but if there's any desire to quit, you'd tend to take any shot at it you could.
I find it interesting everything that's going on and knowing there is a season 8 and possibly a 9 yet to come.
If I had my choice LaGuerta would get it soon. Can't stand her
Wait, waht? This is the last season, I heard. They're wrapping it up now. That's WHY Deb found out, I thought.
As for the whole redemption thing, I think that's absolutely got to be part of the story. The problem I have is that each season seems to have Dexter grow as a character, until they hit the reset button at the end and it's like the season didn't really matter. That's been especially true in S5 and S6. "Yay! I found redemption and -- wait. Never mind. I'm a bad guy." "Yay! I found love and redemption and -- wait. She left. never mind. I'm a bad guy."
Dexter also doesn't seem to reference back to those events, either, so it's almost like they never happened or didn't count somehow when, I would think, his experiences in ALL of the seasons -- finding Lila who accepted him (sorta), getting close to Miguel Prado, trying to structure his life like Trinity and seeing the consequences, the thing with Brother Sam, meeting umm...Julia Stiles (I forget her character's name) and finding someone he could coexist with......all of that stuff just didn't seem to count for a ton. Even Rita's death didn't seem to stick with him very long. He had one bad moment the episode after...and then it was like everything was back to business as usual.
Mostly I blame the writers for that. The actors are top-notch. I think they play what's given to them exceptionally well and make it as believable as you can be, under the circumstances. But the writing's been spotty in recent years. It looks like they're tightening things up now, which is good, but I guess I'm wary from multiple seasons of "Oh come on. THIS crap again? You're just gonna jerk us around and you know it."
I know a lot of people hated last season with the religious killer(s), but I loved it if only because it didn't seem to really be about the same old stuff. It actually seemed to kinda change things up, and something from that season really resonated the following season in a BIG way.
Rbeato
Sr Member
Re: Dexter Season 7
there will be a season 8. in the end it will come down dexter having to somehow kill off harry in his mind. how that will be done? no idea. but here is deb trying to help, and harry just saying "eh your a killer, you can't change"
maybe somethin along the lines of a fight club type ending..?? lol
The main thing that has been apparent to me since last season, is dexter wants to be a very good father to his son. in the end Harrison will be his salvation.
And yes, I agree LaGuerta needs to be off'd asap.
there will be a season 8. in the end it will come down dexter having to somehow kill off harry in his mind. how that will be done? no idea. but here is deb trying to help, and harry just saying "eh your a killer, you can't change"
maybe somethin along the lines of a fight club type ending..?? lol
The main thing that has been apparent to me since last season, is dexter wants to be a very good father to his son. in the end Harrison will be his salvation.
And yes, I agree LaGuerta needs to be off'd asap.
DarkPassenger
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Re: Dexter Season 7
Clyde has been credited these last 2 episodes as a Consultant. I tthink we owe a lot of the greatness in these episodes to him.
On a side note, I think it would be an injustice to see the story of Dexter end with a cure of his Dark Passenger. Think of all the lives he destroyed...
Rita number one, along with Astor and Cody (remember them?), Doakes, the mistaken killer smut photographer from season 4, Lila? (Can be argued), Miguel? (Also open for debate), and the list can go on. Anything Dexter touches winds up dead. Louis is probably next somehow, whether at the hands of Dexter or the mobsters, its still Dexter's fault.
To see this not end in his own demise --dead or jail-- would be a huge cop out.
Clyde has been credited these last 2 episodes as a Consultant. I tthink we owe a lot of the greatness in these episodes to him.
On a side note, I think it would be an injustice to see the story of Dexter end with a cure of his Dark Passenger. Think of all the lives he destroyed...
Rita number one, along with Astor and Cody (remember them?), Doakes, the mistaken killer smut photographer from season 4, Lila? (Can be argued), Miguel? (Also open for debate), and the list can go on. Anything Dexter touches winds up dead. Louis is probably next somehow, whether at the hands of Dexter or the mobsters, its still Dexter's fault.
To see this not end in his own demise --dead or jail-- would be a huge cop out.
Solo4114
Master Member
Re: Dexter Season 7
Wait a second, I thought this was the last season?!
--EDIT--
Never mind. I see Showtime renewed them for a two season run (S7 and S8), so I guess we get at least one more season. Dammit. I was hoping they'd wrap it up this year. I guess if they stay focused and do a single two-season arc it could work.
Wait a second, I thought this was the last season?!
--EDIT--
Never mind. I see Showtime renewed them for a two season run (S7 and S8), so I guess we get at least one more season. Dammit. I was hoping they'd wrap it up this year. I guess if they stay focused and do a single two-season arc it could work.
BlooDSheD
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Re: Dexter Season 7
you don't think the "all i see is blood" was a direct nod to the first season?, when Dexter has that "storm of blood" ? lol he was certainly seeing red then. I loved that whole aspect and how he explained it. its like an orgasm to him, the stalk being the foreplay and the kill finally relieving him of the want and need to kill, to me the way he acts out the kill scenes is iconic for this... He stabs them, puts his head back and exhales in relief. We have also seen many times how once Dex gets a kill he goes back to being "normal" until he starts to see blood again. Another example is smokers... ever seen a smoker watch an anti smokers ad? guess what they go do right after seeing it. lmao Dexter works around death (and blood) its no wonder he finds it hard to quit hahaha. I've also known alot of smokers who have "quit" several times. IMO that addiction aspect of the show was dead on and i loved it.
you don't think the "all i see is blood" was a direct nod to the first season?, when Dexter has that "storm of blood" ? lol he was certainly seeing red then. I loved that whole aspect and how he explained it. its like an orgasm to him, the stalk being the foreplay and the kill finally relieving him of the want and need to kill, to me the way he acts out the kill scenes is iconic for this... He stabs them, puts his head back and exhales in relief. We have also seen many times how once Dex gets a kill he goes back to being "normal" until he starts to see blood again. Another example is smokers... ever seen a smoker watch an anti smokers ad? guess what they go do right after seeing it. lmao Dexter works around death (and blood) its no wonder he finds it hard to quit hahaha. I've also known alot of smokers who have "quit" several times. IMO that addiction aspect of the show was dead on and i loved it.
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BlooDSheD
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Re: Dexter Season 7
Sorry another thing i find with your comment, is the way he acts out his feelings? Hes a psychopath with little to no emotion. He kills people and he likes it.... i find it obvious that he doesn't get upset if some one he "loves" is hurt or gets killed. because to him it didn't matter you usually hear Rita's name again when hes acting about being emotionally wrecked. Using it as an excuse for his actions. Truth is hes bat**** crazy. He talks to himself! we see it as his dark passenger as his father Harry... what we don't see is hes standing there talking to himself lol. To me that's not just good writing its good psychology.
One thing i do agree with you on was last season
Sorry another thing i find with your comment, is the way he acts out his feelings? Hes a psychopath with little to no emotion. He kills people and he likes it.... i find it obvious that he doesn't get upset if some one he "loves" is hurt or gets killed. because to him it didn't matter you usually hear Rita's name again when hes acting about being emotionally wrecked. Using it as an excuse for his actions. Truth is hes bat**** crazy. He talks to himself! we see it as his dark passenger as his father Harry... what we don't see is hes standing there talking to himself lol. To me that's not just good writing its good psychology.
One thing i do agree with you on was last season
Captain Radu
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Re: Dexter Season 7
I am really liking it so far, I little disappointed in last season. I figure out a lot before it happened. Looking forward to it
I am really liking it so far, I little disappointed in last season. I figure out a lot before it happened. Looking forward to it
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