Dexter Season 7 and 8

'Dexter' Series Finale: Showrunner Scott Buck Breaks Down How It All Ended

Interview with show runner Scott Buck, some excerpts of interest:
Did you talk about ending the series after Angel learns that Dexter died and not seeing either time jump?
No, I always pitched it as a whole; it was always the sequence of those scenes. We see Dexter disappear into the storm, we find wreckage, Batista (David Zayas) learns of it, then Hannah learns of it, then there's a slow fade to black and coming to the reality that Dexter, who has always been able to survive everything, is once again still out there.

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David Nevins said he's looking at all avenues for a Dexter spinoff. Is Hannah and Harrison's story something you've talked about for a spinoff?
Absolutely. I love Yvonne Strahovski, she's a terrific actor and has brought so much to the series. Who knows? We may see her again in the future.
 
Just came across this..... sounds so much more satisfying. Im going to pretend that's what happened lol.

"During an interview with E! Online, former producer Clyde Phillips shared his thoughts on the Dexter finale. Although he felt the showrunners did a good job with the last episode, this wasn’t the ending he would have put together.

Phillips told the website:

In the very last scene of the series. Dexter wakes up. And everybody is going to think, ‘Oh, it was a dream.’ And then the camera pulls back and back and back and then we realize, ‘No, it’s not a dream.’ Dexter’s opening his eyes and he’s on the execution table at the Florida Penitentiary. They’re just starting to administer the drugs and he looks out through the window to the observation gallery.

The former producer continued:

And in the gallery are all the people that Dexter killed—including the Trinity Killer and the Ice Truck Killer (his brother Rudy), LaGuerta who he was responsible killing, Doakes who he’s arguably responsible for, Rita, who he’s arguably responsible for, Lila. All the big deaths, and also whoever the weekly episodic kills were. They are all there.

Phillips said that he essentially wanted it to appear as though Dexter’s life was passing before his eyes just as he was about to die. Although this is the idea the former producer had in mind for the finale, it wasn’t the ending fans received Sunday night."
 
I had issues with the ending of lost. I had some problems with TDKR.. and prometheus..

But my issues with the last few seasons.. especially this season.. and now the finale of dexter, top them all.
My hat is off to the writers for finding a way to screw up a shows ending soooo badly that I want at least the last four years of my sunday nights back.

What a joke.
 
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How Dex feels about season 8
 
I was a big fan of this show - even got the opportunity to supply the blood slide collection boxes to the prop department.
But...as the last two or three seasons aired, I began to notice all the horrible writing choices with the show.
Characters and plots are introduced then quickly brushed under the carpet - sometimes with little to nonsensical explanation.
It's as if the show is written episode to episode without any unity or any grand arcing plan.
The entire season should have been a boiling pot slowly building up to an overflow - but it was just as boring and nonsensical as ever.
While the ending leaves a door open for a new show or even a movie, I have to admit - after all the greatness that the show once was, this was just a bitter tasting finale to what started out as a wonderful series.
 
whelp, caught up on the show last night and was disappointed :-/

I would have rather seen Dex getting caught and dying.
We should have seen the light in his eyes go out - a hyperspace kind of thing as he's crossing over and he now knows all the answers to why he was the way he was...
During the sequence, it should have been new shots of all the cast he'd killed as his subconscious connects to them as he's crossing over...with his Mother smiling at him being the last thing he sees - show fades to black.
 
so much bad in this season, specifically in the finale. sooooooo many plot holes.


Does Hannah have money? How the Hell did Dex survive the boat crash? Harrison having to hear that his dad is dead and having to live without him for the rest of his life is a "better" or "safer" decision than staying with him and having the extremely slim chance of Dexter having to protect him physically? Is Dexter over his killing obsession? Is he just killing lumberjacks now? What if Deb wanted to be buried with her family? HOW DID SAXON CUT OUT THAT GUYS TONGUE IN A CAR PARKED IN FRONT OF A HOSPITAL FULL OF PEOPLE / COPS AND NOT HAVE HIM YELL AND SCREAM AND GIVE THEM AWAY? Absolutely NO ONE recognized Saxon in the hospital? Where the news report was playing on all of the screens in the hospital?


ok. end rant.
 
If it has anything to do with Hannah, I'm not going to be watching it. I hated her character and I hate the fact that she is the one who got away in the end. I can't believe the writers thought having Harrison end up with her was something we wanted to see.

I'm a fan of Yvonne Strahovski (Chuck, Dexter.) She was ok in Chuck with her rarely affective voice (she's Australian and has to work hard to hide the accent.) It kind of worked because who she was supposed to be. But in Dexter her voice just got on my nerves because she was basically playing the same character. It's funny though - in the very first episode of Dexter that she played in she had a hilarious northern accent which magically disappeared during her second episode. I don't know, she just wasn't any good as Hannah. I disliked her character. (Love her though!)

It really is amazing how bad this last episode was. The whole season was a borefest, but this last episode was just stupid. Everything about it was bad. The only decent part was Dexter killing whatever the forgetable bad guy's name is, and then Quinn and Batista watching the video. Dexter killing Debra and stealing her body was just ridiculous, and him burying her with a bunch of serial killer corpses? Stupid. And the riding into the storm was stupid. His "revelation" that he didn't need to kill anymore (which got Deb killed) was stupid. Etc. And the entire "Harrison flashback" was just ridiculous. They really didn't have any story to tell because they wasted 5 minutes on that foolishness. For almost the entire finale I was just yelling at the TV because I couldn't believe the dumb choices made by the writers.

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And I think it's already been mentioned, but just how incredibly retarded it was for Hannah to never put a wig on. No. Instead she dresses up in a fancy outfit that draws attention to her and fixes her hair exactly as it looks in her passport. God forbid she puts on a black hair wig, wears sunglasses and a hoody and heavy clothes to actually blend in. lol. It's just so ridiculous.
 
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Oh yeah, the whole Hannah being an idiot thing killed this season for me. It's like Dexter is a really smart guy who is good at not getting caught. Yet it doesn't occur to either of them that while they're hiding out, that Hannah might want to change her appearance? A box of hair dye doesn't cost that much. Change your clothes, do something!
 
It's really hard from me to say negative things about this show, but that last minute of screentime.. uhhg. I mean, I get it. It's more crewel to live life in exile & stew than take the easy way out, but either option is completely selfish to Harrison & Hanna.

I don't think I would've cared to see him get caught, but this whole season fell flat, least favorite right along with how season 5 ended.
 
It almost seemed to me that they couldn't figure out which ending to keep, so they stuck them both in. Somehow, I would have been less disappointed had they just had Dexter sail off into the hurricane for us to assume he was dead. When it faded back in to the shot of the truck, I was thinking "Oh man, I swear Dexter better not show up as a lumberjack with a beard." Womp womp.

Well, he's a lumberjack, but he's ok. He sleeps all night, and he works all day....

I was a big fan of this show - even got the opportunity to supply the blood slide collection boxes to the prop department.
But...as the last two or three seasons aired, I began to notice all the horrible writing choices with the show.
Characters and plots are introduced then quickly brushed under the carpet - sometimes with little to nonsensical explanation.
It's as if the show is written episode to episode without any unity or any grand arcing plan.
The entire season should have been a boiling pot slowly building up to an overflow - but it was just as boring and nonsensical as ever.
While the ending leaves a door open for a new show or even a movie, I have to admit - after all the greatness that the show once was, this was just a bitter tasting finale to what started out as a wonderful series.

That has been my sense of the show since after the Season 5 opener. Season 5 was all over the place. Season 6 was a bit more coherent, and Season 7 was kinda all over the place again. But my biggest criticism has been that they had no idea where Dex was going. Reset buttons every season, and as a result, when you get this kind of ending, it feels...appropriate, but unsatisfying because after ALL THOSE SEASONS of Dex spinning his wheels, you'd expect SOMETHING to come to a head. Either he accepts who he is and we see a happy little family of serial killers, or he gets the chair or whatever. I think a big part of why people dislike this is that it feels half-assed. It can't decide whether to give him a happy ending or a "just" ending, and it ends up being neither happy nor exactly just.
 
Well, he's a lumberjack, but he's ok. He sleeps all night, and he works all day....



That has been my sense of the show since after the Season 5 opener. Season 5 was all over the place. Season 6 was a bit more coherent, and Season 7 was kinda all over the place again. But my biggest criticism has been that they had no idea where Dex was going. Reset buttons every season, and as a result, when you get this kind of ending, it feels...appropriate, but unsatisfying because after ALL THOSE SEASONS of Dex spinning his wheels, you'd expect SOMETHING to come to a head. Either he accepts who he is and we see a happy little family of serial killers, or he gets the chair or whatever. I think a big part of why people dislike this is that it feels half-assed. It can't decide whether to give him a happy ending or a "just" ending, and it ends up being neither happy nor exactly just.

Agree. They had no idea where to go with Dexter or what to do with the story. Not a clue.

I loved LOST. Sure, season 3 and some of season 4 were terrible, but I'm one of those who loved the ending and was fine with a lot of questions going unanswered. I always thought the last few seasons were great because they had a definite story that they wanted to tell and they knew where they were going with it. Dexter had none of this. After multiple episodes of this season there was nothing hanging out there that we cared about. Nothing. No story. The only story was Hannah trying to catch a plane, and they cared so much about that story they cuoldn't even put her in a wig. lol.

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It's just amazing how they had really nothing driving the last few seasons of Dexter.
 
While I have to echo everyone who keeps crying foul over the last few seasons, I had high hopes that the writers knew the fans deserved better than what we ended up getting. Instead I was handed more of the same.
It would have been far better for me to have ended the whole season with Dexter getting caught on something of Deb's and getting dragged down to the bottom with her and drown. Her final act as his last gasp of "humanity" died would be removing the monster she'd been protecting from the world.

Or
Dexter makes it to Argentina, where he finds that someone from Hanna's past has already found her and then he and Hannah are killed graphically in front of Harrison. The last scene we see is Dexter's ghost placing a hand onto Harrison's head, and Harrison's eyes taking on that familiar Dexter stare. Fade to black

But no. We got the most lackluster possible ending to a show that had so much potential.

blech.
 
Agree. They had no idea where to go with Dexter or what to do with the story. Not a clue.

I loved LOST. Sure, season 3 and some of season 4 were terrible, but I'm one of those who loved the ending and was fine with a lot of questions going unanswered. I always thought the last few seasons were great because they had a definite story that they wanted to tell and they knew where they were going with it. Dexter had none of this. After multiple episodes of this season there was nothing hanging out there that we cared about. Nothing. No story. The only story was Hannah trying to catch a plane, and they cared so much about that story they cuoldn't even put her in a wig. lol.

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It's just amazing how they had really nothing driving the last few seasons of Dexter.

I found that it wasn't so much that they had nothing driving it, but rather that they had no sense of where they were going. They were driving, just kinda aimlessly. Like, Season 5. It opened with Dexter FLAGRANTLY breaking The Code. Just offing some dude in a bar that he stopped by in his boat. And....no repercussions whatsoever. And yet, think of all the bull**** they did season after season with Dex killing a guy and then worrying about a blood spot or a stray body part of oh-no-Rita-called-on-the-phone-and-he-just-can't-let-it-go-to-voicemail-for-5-minutes. But the guy in the bar? Meh, no biggie.

Season 5 had him and Lumen getting closer, her connecting with Harrison, and then...whoops! She skipped town and hit the road! Oh well. Tehre were other things in Season 5, too, as I recall. Some plotline with the Santeria killer that just got dropped altogether and ignored. Then there was the Season 6 time shift that had Laguerta and Batista MARRIED when there'd NEVER been anything going on between them romantically, then divorced the next season...it was just all over the freakin' place...and in the end, none of it mattered.

I had a similar reaction to Michael C. Hall's last show, Six Feet Under. Characters just kept seeming to flounder through seasons aimlessly for no real purpose. Except that show had an amazing ending, or at least an amazing 10-ish closing minutes.

I dunno. I just don't see a point in watching shows like this. I gave up on Dexter after Season 5, really. I continued to watch just to kill time, but I'd kinda hoped that they'd go somewhere with Season 8. I still have four episodes to watch, but that's four hours of my time I just don't care to spend on a show like this anymore. Same deal with the Sopranos, same deal with Six Feet Under, same deal with Vikings. I hit a point with the shows where I just say "Oh who the hell cares" and move on, and I blame the writers for that.


That's the other thing. This show has consistently had an AMAZING cast. But it's a cast that has been consistently undermined by crappy, directionless writing. I'm not even up for the ending that the former show-runner had in mind.


I guess the way I see it, Dexter should've been a one-season show. Yet another argument for UK shows, I suppose.
 
We could basically watch season 1 through season 5 episode 1 (cut it off as soon as dexter is on his boat and "moving on," has the flash back of Rita, closes his eyes and says goodbye. And we'd basically have the same outcome. Not 4 seasons of mediocre and bad writing. They could have saved us a bunch of time. This season started with so much promise. But as soon as Hannah came back the season was done.
 
Most of my friends complained about it, so I used my meagre editing abilities and re-edited it.

Changed -
Dexter leaves after killing Oliver
No turning Deb into bait.
Pointless phone call to Hannah removed
Dexter has no scenes after driving into the storm. He's dead and takes Deb with him.
Batista watches the tape.

It was just a fun project before bed. No HD or talent involved.

 
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