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[PHArchivist]

Guys,

Learman has sent me pics of his DSI WIP, and let me tell you, I'm salivating. It looks to be a wonderfully fun project, but quite possibly misleading in its appearance of simplicity.

As I mentioned to him, I believe he's the only one to have tackled this in full 3' studio scale.

I wil post pics later...

 

[Kuhn Global]

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET.

 

[12Rogues]

There are some nice (but small) shots here. Great story too.

http://www.toysrgus.com/images-props/deathstar1.html

 

[PHArchivist]

Here's a pic to begin with.

Oh and Hand Solo? You're drivng me schizophrenic with your constant avatar changes.

 

[Hand Solo]

^ That's REAL oblate-looking.

Hard to judge from a photo isn't it?

I change avatars regularly on every board I post on. It's just a habit.

 

[Lear60man]

^ That's REAL oblate-looking.

Hand,
I only did the trimming after many hours of studying many pics of the filming piece and stareing to make sure it was 'eye correct'. This is a wierd piece since most people don't even notice that it is oblate until told so. Light also plays trics on this since the greater the light source shining on the equator gives it a more pointy look than the side with the shadow. You can stand in different positions and you will swear it is changing shapes in fron of you. The best pic on the web is the one with the hippy looking fellow. It most accuratly shows the shape in my opinion. If anyone has a way of getting the diameter of the laser eye and distance from the trench I will start working on this and post more pics. I dont have an email address for Mr. Lopez. Untill then I am hesitant to cut blindly as this has been a ton of reverse engenering to get it this far and not have it sag under its own weight. I do agree that depending on where you stand it cand look to Oblate and then look at it from an angle and it doesnt look oblate enough......does that make sense? Anyway if anyone can get the above mentioned measurements I can get cracking on this project again.
Chris

 

[Hand Solo]

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The best pic on the web is the one with the hippy looking fellow...[/b]

That'd be Dennis Muren.

As to the rest? Understandable that the shape would change as you change perspective as it's not a sphere. More or less curvature would be apparent as you change positions for viewing. I don't think I could describe the effect any better than you have.

As far as determining the size of the superlaser dish, the waistband area and the location of the dish, I can't help you. I wish I could. I think determining that without having the real thing measured is going to come down to photo-interpretation and finding out by using proportions and a certain degree of 'eyeballing' as you have done to get the appropriate oblate shape.

You might try making patterns out of paper and taping these to the ball to determine what looks right. Once you're happy with the look, as compared to visual references, then you could transfer the matching pattern that's closest to the references to the ball for cutting.

Other than that, I'm out of suggestions, although I'd like to see you go forward with this. You're more or less the pioneer on this subject right now as far as SS. Lasse Henning did a fine half-scale version. Maybe you could contact him via his site ( The link is on page 2 of this thread ) and ask him how to proceed.

 

[KevVader]

Nice job PHArchivist...OK, this thread is really starting to motivate me to cut up those old CCTV domes that I have....

 

[Hand Solo]

<div class='quotetop'>(KevVader @ Jul 8 2006, 07:44 PM) [snapback]1277004[/snapback]</div>

Nice job PHArchivist...OK, this thread is really starting to motivate me to cut up those old CCTV domes that I have....
[/b]

" Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate you. "

:thumbsup

 

[PHArchivist]

<div class='quotetop'>(KevVader @ Jul 9 2006, 02:44 AM) [snapback]1277004[/snapback]</div>

Nice job PHArchivist...OK, this thread is really starting to motivate me to cut up those old CCTV domes that I have....
[/b]

Just to clarify, the WIP in the photo I posted is not my -- its Learman's...

And this IS a great thread isn't it.? Funny how it all began.

 

[Maths_Hal]

Morten Moeslund made a replacement dish for the original DS, and he has some pictures of it at his website:
go to www.m-moeslund.dk and press the "more news" button... :rolleyes

The owner of the model Gus Lopez said to me that the DS is now on display at the Sci Fi Museum in Seattle, so if any of you live in, or nearby Seattle, please take some pictures(close up's) and post them here.


Maths B)

 

[KevVader]

<div class='quotetop'>(Hand Solo @ Jul 8 2006, 10:56 PM) [snapback]1277012[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>(KevVader @ Jul 8 2006, 07:44 PM) [snapback]1277004[/snapback]

Nice job PHArchivist...OK, this thread is really starting to motivate me to cut up those old CCTV domes that I have....
[/b]

" Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate you. "

:thumbsup
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"...I'll double my efforts..."

 

[Hand Solo]

<div class='quotetop'>(Maths_Hal @ Jul 9 2006, 01:22 AM) [snapback]1277116[/snapback]</div>

Morten Moeslund made a replacement dish for the original DS, and he has some pictures of it at his website:
go to www.m-moeslund.dk and press the "more news" button... :rolleyes


[/b]

Excellent. :thumbsup

 

[PHArchivist]

<div class='quotetop'>(Maths_Hal @ Jul 9 2006, 08:22 AM) [snapback]1277116[/snapback]</div>

Morten Moeslund made a replacement dish for the original DS, and he has some pictures of it at his website:
go to www.m-moeslund.dk and press the "more news" button... :rolleyes

The owner of the model Gus Lopez said to me that the DS is now on display at the Sci Fi Museum in Seattle, so if any of you live in, or nearby Seattle, please take some pictures(close up's) and post them here.


Maths B)
[/b]

that's great news that it is on public display. But when that museum first opened, they did not allow photography... I hope that has changed...

 

[Hand Solo]

<div class='quotetop'>(KevVader @ Jul 9 2006, 07:52 AM) [snapback]1277192[/snapback]</div>

"...I'll double my efforts..."
[/b]

I hope so...for your sake. The Model Gods are not as forgiving as WE are. :cry :lol

 

[PHArchivist]

Here is the contact page for the Sci-Fi museum, ut I couldn't get through this morning (Sunday)...

 

[Mike J.]

Rough estimates from the BTS pic with D. Murin:

Assuming the maximum width is 36 in (diameter of the equator):

The height is about 33.25 in.

Distance from edge of the trench to the edge of the dish is about 1.4 in.

The trench width is about 0.217 in.

The dish diameter is about 8.67 in.

Ideally, someone would take measurements from any other behind-the-scenes pics, and the Toys-R-Gus one, and then average them all.


-Mike

 

[Lear60man]

OK, I used a sharpie and made a 8.5 diameter circle 1.4 inches above the equator. The diameter looked ok but it needs to be higher up. My trench is about .4 inches wide.
Anybody have an email for this Moe guy? With his ref pics I could scratch a laser dish with the proper dimentions.


<div class='quotetop'>(Sith Sheriff Brody @ Jul 9 2006, 05:51 PM) [snapback]1277287[/snapback]</div>

Rough estimates from the BTS pic with D. Murin:

Assuming the maximum width is 36 in (diameter of the equator):

The height is about 33.25 in.

Distance from edge of the trench to the edge of the dish is about 1.4 in.

The trench width is about 0.217 in.

The dish diameter is about 8.67 in.

Ideally, someone would take measurements from any other behind-the-scenes pics, and the Toys-R-Gus one, and then average them all.


-Mike
[/b]

 

[Mike J.]

Here are some alternative estimates:

From a screencap (aspect ratio may be a factor here):

Assuming maximum width is 36 in:

Total Height: 33.93 in.

Distance from edge of trench to the edge of dish: 1.48 in.

The trench width: 0.46 in.

The dish diameter: 10.23 in.


-Mike

 

[PHArchivist]

<div class='quotetop'>(Lear60man @ Jul 9 2006, 10:09 PM) [snapback]1277443[/snapback]</div>

Anybody have an email for this Moe guy?

[/b]

Try the 32" MFalcon thread