Day / Night of the Doctor – I’m Confused Possible Spoilers

[Boba Debt]

I watched Day of the Doctor a couple weeks ago and it started with a scene in which a constable walked past a school.

I watched a show tonight called Night of the Doctor and it started with a scene in which a female pilot was in the process of crashing when different Doctor offered to save her to o avail, who then seemed to regenerate into a younger version of the the older doctor from the episode I watched a couple weeks ago., then it went on to the first scene on the same episode I watched a couple weeks ago


What’s going on here????

 

[dbalschi]

Night of the Doctor was an online webisode released before Day of the Doctor showing how the 8th Doctor transformed into the War Doctor(John Hurt)

 

[Boba Debt]

So they decided to add it to tonight's episode of Day of the Doctor?

As for Doctors there is a 8th (the young guy) the War Doctor (John Hurt) then the Ninth (Eccleston)????

 

[The Wolf]

Yes.

Wolf

 

[Xxblackbird]

The 8th Doctor was played by Paul Mcgann in the TV movie from 1996. It was an attempt to reboot the series for American audiences after the original series was cancelled in 1989.
The TV movie failed and the US series did not move forward.
The show relaunched in 2005 with Christopher Eccleston as the Doctor. In the first episode he talked like he had JUST regenerated but we never saw it. Everyone assumed the Mcgann version regenerated into Eccleston.
Then we learn there was a Doctor between Mcgann and Eccleston. This version is called the War Doctor because he fought in the Time War. He is played by John Hurt.
The mini episode called "Night of the Doctor" was a prequel produced to show the regeneration of Mcgann into Hurt. Then at the end of Day of the Doctor, Hurt regenerates into Eccleston.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Night of the Doctor is just there as a bridge for classic fans so that they can fit this new Doctor into their timeline. If you've only ever seen the new series it's really superfluous but all you need to know is that it takes place a long time prior to the full episode. The John Hurt Doctor is 8.5.

They get around the numbering by saying he didn't go by the name the Doctor... Personally I find this to be a bit of BS to appease fans as he's clearly "The Doctor" and is referred to as such in the 50th special.

Therefore:

- Paul McGann is the 8th Doctor
- John Hurt is the 9th Doctor
- Christopher Eccleston is the 10th Doctor
- David Tennant is the 11th Doctor (he uses up two regenerations but remains the same guy so he's just the 11th, not the 11th and 12th)
- Matt Smith is the 12th Doctor
- Peter Capaldi is the 13th Doctor

 

[NakedMoleRat]

Night of the Doctor is just there as a bridge for classic fans so that they can fit this new Doctor into their timeline. If you've only ever seen the new series it's really superfluous but all you need to know is that it takes place a long time prior to the full episode. The John Hurt Doctor is 8.5.

They get around the numbering by saying he didn't go by the name the Doctor... Personally I find this to be a bit of BS to appease fans as he's clearly "The Doctor" and is referred to as such in the 50th special.

Therefore:

- Paul McGann is the 8th Doctor
- John Hurt is the 9th Doctor
- Christopher Eccleston is the 10th Doctor
- David Tennant is the 11th Doctor (he uses up two regenerations but remains the same guy so he's just the 11th, not the 11th and 12th)
- Matt Smith is the 12th Doctor
- Peter Capaldi is the 13th Doctor

Matt would be 13 and Capaldi 14. (If we count Tennant as a Two-fer)

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Matt would be 13 and Capaldi 14. (If we count Tennant as a Two-fer)

As I said though, he uses the regeneration energy but remains the same Doctor so although the regeneration number goes up the number of the Doctor doesn't.

Smith is 12 and Capaldi is 13.

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[joeranger]

OK, that makes sense. So the only remaining question is did he reset the counter and now has 12 more?

Oh, sorry, one other minor detail...how come some points in time are fixed? Please be brief and don't use any timey wimey terms

 

[Xxblackbird]

He says he has a whole new regeneration cycle. I assume that means 12 more regenerations.
I don't think there's ever really been an explanation about fixed points. Some things just happen, have always happened and will always happen. Recent seasons have shown there are ways around them, mostly by making it LOOK like things have happened (like gallifrey's destruction and the Doctor's death at Silencio).

 

[NakedMoleRat]

As I said though, he uses the regeneration energy but remains the same Doctor so although the regeneration number goes up the number of the Doctor doesn't.

Smith is 12 and Capaldi is 13.

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True, which leads to another question. At Lake Silencio in The Impossible Astronaut, when River shot the Doctor, he began to regenerate.....if he was the last incarnation, how could he do that?

But wait, that's right, it wasn't him it was a robot replica of him, with a tiny him inside of it. Wait.....how could a robot regenerate......?????

Oh never mind!

 

[Xxblackbird]

... the robot didn't regenerate. :unsure

 

[Asp9mm]

Exactly! That's the weakness and lack of thought in Moffat's writing.

 

[Xxblackbird]

All the robot did was shine some lights. I don't understand the problem. So we assume after a few hundred years of planning and running around, the Doctor couldn't rig up some LED's and a speaker?
The point of the whole thing was to make it appear authentic.

 

[Asp9mm]

Yeah, that could work.

 

[NuRF]

So does Smith --> Capaldi count as the first of the new regeneration cycle? So he's now got 11 regens left, right?

 

[Asp9mm]

So does Smith --> Capaldi count as the first of the new regeneration cycle? So he's now got 11 regens left, right?

Yeah, Capaldi is the first Doctor in the new regeneration cycle.

 

[Lost21stJedi]

Yeah, Capaldi is the first Doctor in the new regeneration cycle.

Well at least that gives new writers 20 plus years to come up with a better way to do this

 

[Asp9mm]

Well at least that gives new writers 20 plus years to come up with a better way to do this

It worked for the last 50.

 

[Michael Bergeron]

Yeah, Capaldi is the first Doctor in the new regeneration cycle.

And he's the same age that Hartnell was in 1963. Very fitting.

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