Daft Punk Thomas Helmet -- Skipped a few chapters

I'll take a brake from the matrix build as I wait for a few components. Now, it's time to work on the side LED boards. Since I'm not really savvy with doing PCBs yet, I'll tackle this with Prototype board :confused

(I will later post a schematic showing the connections as they can get tricky)

Since Volpin is using PCBs which is the "whole Enchilada", I decided to do a "Double Decker" instead :lol .... can you tell I'm hungry?

Anyway, just stay with me...

This is a little trick I used while building the electronics for my Guy Manuel helmet. Basically, I used 2 layers of perf board. The bottom layer will be used to place components that you don't want people to see OR when components are really close to each other.

So, the first bottom layer consists of resistors only. These will later be hidden by the top layer.

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After finishing the bottom layer, I then glued these little walls of the same material thickness. http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5103/5810874900_c92f4b31e5.jpg

Like so..
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Then it was time to put the top layer while hiding those resistors underneath.

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Another advantage of this method is that it brings the uncovered LEDs to the front and leaves the LEDs that will later be covered with colors gels behind. Giving them more room to diffuse the light.

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Notice how clean it looks without resistors
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All components in place.

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Now for the fun part :confused

Start running traces to connect these components.
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Wow!!! What a MESS..

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I wonder if this will even work...:confused

Using ribbon cable, I made the wire harnesses from the Led chaser to the transistor board to the LED boards.
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This little guy is the brain power
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Here are the basic components of the side boards. I still need to do another board mirror of the one shown here.
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I connected everything and tested the pins with a battery before introducing the chaser and transistor board.
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Then it was time!!!! After some preliminary tests.... this is how I felt (link)

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Here's a video of the lights in action...

:love YouTube - ‪Daft Punk - Thomas Bangalter - Helmet Side Boards‬‏


one step closer...

Sorry to bump this old thread, but was a circuit diagram ever posted for this section? I'd love to recreate this LED circuit but I just don't where to begin. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Any help would be much appreciated!
 
Hello tek, I bet you hear this a lot but do you mind if I was able to purchase just a spare cast, (assuming you made a few casts, like most of the helmet makers) because I would love to develop one of these alongside the Guy Manuel Helmet I'm spending all my time on doing.

Thanks,

~JellyFish
 
so since im not using a multi-position pot switch on mine i can just plug my 12v battery straight into the led matrix? how do you plug in your lipo without overpowering the led matrix board? i feel like i have overlooked something....:confused
 
First let me congratulate on the amazing job you did with helmet. I am in the process to make one myself and I was wondering if you can help get the part number for the 5 Position switch you used. I have been trying to look the part # on the picture you posted, but I can't see it to well.
Thank you for your help
 
Hey guys. I just bought a helmet from eBay and while trimming and sanding it, the rear dome cracked. The crack is only a few inches long so I used some epoxy to mend it. I am worried though. Will the epoxy hold it or should I try to reinforce it somehow? I plan on chroming it so it absolutely cannot break again after it has been chromed. The seller does not accept returns and I can't afford another helmet. Any help is appreciated, thank you.
 
Hey guys. I just bought a helmet from eBay and while trimming and sanding it, the rear dome cracked. The crack is only a few inches long so I used some epoxy to mend it. I am worried though. Will the epoxy hold it or should I try to reinforce it somehow? I plan on chroming it so it absolutely cannot break again after it has been chromed. The seller does not accept returns and I can't afford another helmet. Any help is appreciated, thank you.

Generally cracks should be treated like cracks in windshields. If you can, you should sand or drill out the damage until you get down below the crack to virgin, pristine material. Cracks propagate with any load on them at all (the sharp edges create stress risers) , but if you remove and patch back on top, you shouldn't have the crack reappear at a later date. Drummers do a similar thing with symbols that form cracks by drilling a hole in front of the crack. When the crack meets the hole, the hole creates smoother edges that the stress can more easily transition across, decreasing the risk of further crack propagation.

Having said that, filling in the existing crack is the next best thing, though I would consider 'opening up' the crack with at least some sanding so that the epoxy can get down in the crack and actually bond to both sides of the crack. Otherwise you'll end up with just a 'paint' of epoxy that isn't bonded and can flake off. I might even consider opening up a 'v' groove in the helmet surface again for better bonding and to remove an pre-stressing the crack could be creating.

If the crack goes all the way through you helmet (inside to outside surface) and you don't feel like completely cutting out the crack, definitely look at getting some fiberglass cloth or strips to do a reinforcing patch on the inside surface.

Also consider some additives to the epoxy if you need more 'bulk' like bondo. microballoons (tiny hallow glass spheres) are great for just decreasing weight and as a general 'filler'. Cabosil (or fumed silica) is a great thickener (increases viscosity) tends to be better for more 'structural bulk' than just microballoons, and I think it tends to be cheaper too.

FYI this is a boat engineer/builders opinion/stance on fiberglass repairs. There are plenty of ways of skinning this cat and I'm known for going for the most involved/expensive/overkill solution ;)
 
Generally cracks should be treated like cracks in windshields. If you can, you should sand or drill out the damage until you get down below the crack to virgin, pristine material. Cracks propagate with any load on them at all (the sharp edges create stress risers) , but if you remove and patch back on top, you shouldn't have the crack reappear at a later date. Drummers do a similar thing with symbols that form cracks by drilling a hole in front of the crack. When the crack meets the hole, the hole creates smoother edges that the stress can more easily transition across, decreasing the risk of further crack propagation.


Having said that, filling in the existing crack is the next best thing, though I would consider 'opening up' the crack with at least some sanding so that the epoxy can get down in the crack and actually bond to both sides of the crack. Otherwise you'll end up with just a 'paint' of epoxy that isn't bonded and can flake off. I might even consider opening up a 'v' groove in the helmet surface again for better bonding and to remove an pre-stressing the crack could be creating.

If the crack goes all the way through you helmet (inside to outside surface) and you don't feel like completely cutting out the crack, definitely look at getting some fiberglass cloth or strips to do a reinforcing patch on the inside surface.

Also consider some additives to the epoxy if you need more 'bulk' like bondo. microballoons (tiny hallow glass spheres) are great for just decreasing weight and as a general 'filler'. Cabosil (or fumed silica) is a great thickener (increases viscosity) tends to be better for more 'structural bulk' than just microballoons, and I think it tends to be cheaper too.

FYI this is a boat engineer/builders opinion/stance on fiberglass repairs. There are plenty of ways of skinning this cat and I'm known for going for the most involved/expensive/overkill solution ;)

Wow, thanks! I ended up putting three layers of fiberglass on the inside. It seems to have worked pretty well. Now I just have to find a place to chrome it. :rolleyes. Coat of Chrome would bet perfect but they're not responding! :( anyone been able to contact them?
 
After getting some PET sheets in the mail, I was able to fit the visor. Even after measuring and re-measuring, I still had to do some minor adjustment cuts for a good fit.

The PET is crystal clear, I just left the protective film on both sides as I'm handling it quite a bit so to avoid scratches.

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I'm still trying to figure out how I'm going to keep the visor in place on a more permanent basis to prevent movement yet have the ability to take it out if I need to.

As you can see, the visor is fed from the inside.

Now, this is what I'm planning on using for a sub-visor. The reason why I'm not using the same PET sheet as in the visor is because this piece is already curved in its resting position. Luckily, the curvature matches perfectly with that of the helmet, so I can safely say..WINNING!

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[[ EDIT ]] Oh Wait.. I forgot to include this update. A sea of LEDs!!
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What kind of leds did you use?

About to buy some red defused leds but dont know what viewing angle or brightness would work best for this kind of application.

cheers
 
What kind of leds did you use?

About to buy some red defused leds but dont know what viewing angle or brightness would work best for this kind of application.

cheers

Most of the builds I've seen use fairly standard 5mm or 3mm round 'barrel' LEDs. Typically these are 5-10deg half angle LEDs (cone of say 95% of the light is in a cone of 5-10deg from the midline, 10-20deg overall) so they concentrate the most brightness looking forward. Diffusion will make the body of the LED 'glow' more on it's own, and will make the lens shape softer (if you project an LED parallel to a flat surface, you won't see as many 'sharp' shapes of light caused by the lens geometry). To an outside observer, they will be 'blinded' when looking directly at the front of the helmet and will receive the most light at that direct on angle. If the LEDs follow the geometry of the helmet (ie a radius) there will be fairly sharp drop off once they're out of the 10deg sweet spot.

Wider angle LEDs will of course have a wider angle with more even distribution of light across the different viewpoints. But you do have to be aware of the brightness curve because at 10 deg there's almost no difference and only a single sweet spot, but with say 60deg you distinguish the change in intensity based on angle more easily.

Generally, clear lens leds are used to light something specific or to cast light on something. They're also good when you have secondary optics such as light pipes, fiber optics, or difuser that will be between the viewer and your light source. Then, it makes sense to go for the higher efficiency of clear lens to let your diffuser do the work.

defused led lenses are best when working with leds that your viewer will be looking directly at. The diffusion will make your LED more of a 'pixel' with some 'volume' to it rather than just a bright point light source. Diffusion also helps with mixing RGB colors to get a better end result with less visible color discretization.
 
My helmet visor has a radius of around 60deg from each side of the mid line.

So im now thinking buy something with a wider view angle than i had thought. I was going to go for something with around a 30deg viewing angle but due to the 120deg spread of my visor i should look for something higher (say 60)?

Thanks for the reply.
 
My helmet visor has a radius of around 60deg from each side of the mid line.

So im now thinking buy something with a wider view angle than i had thought. I was going to go for something with around a 30deg viewing angle but due to the 120deg spread of my visor i should look for something higher (say 60)?

Thanks for the reply.

My caution would be to try out whatever LEDs you wish to source. Generally I would recommend difuse for that 'pixel' look rather than a 'light emmiting cannon' that clear lens LEDs look like. Two small orders of LEDs to test with now will save you second guessing yourself later. If you have multiple options in emission pattern for the same beam angle, go for the one with the 'flatest' intensity vs angle graph. Normally those graphs are in polar coordinates (remember back to high school math on that one) so 'flat' means most constant instensity (normally shown in %) across the widest range of angles. Here's an example that has a 1.0 ascribed to the highest intensity (straight on) and other angles are rated as a fraction of the maximum.

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Thanks for the info. Iv ordered several led samples and doing some tests at the moment.

Heres my build using tek's sure board meathod -

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If anyone can help , I have built my sub visor according to this and it displays vertical instead of across I have negative columns and positive rows
 
Can anybody rewrite the code posted one page before to be used with 4 x MAX7219 matrices with arduiono.
Regards
 
Was the code for the switch ever uploaded somewhere? Would like to be be able to toggle between a few set animations.
 
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@shween Sorry for the late response, but hopefully this will help.

"Where can i find the sequencer that you used."
The LED chaser can be purchased by sending an email to Donnie (donniedj@anothercoilgunsite.com)

"How did you program it?"
I didn't. Donnie does the programming. All you do is tell him what patterns you want programmed. Go to the bottom of this page for links to all the available patterns.
Plasmado Projects


"I found this and was wondering if I could build it and then you had the code for your chaser you could upload? (and show us how to download it to the chip :p)"
I'm sure you can use this, but since I don't hold the programming of the chasers I'm using, I cannot be of any help. That's why I'm using the chasers from Donnie because he has done all the programming, and he offers a wide variety of patterns.

"What exactly does each part do. (From the battery to the chaser, to the transistor board, to the actual units)"
I would suggest reading this tutorial Plasmado Projects
In a nut shell, the chasers don't have enough 'juice' to run many LEDs, so the transistors are used as switches. The Chaser provides the signals to the transistors for switching and the LEDs get the full RAW power from the battery pack not the chasers.


"What does each part of your batter pack do. I noticed 2 switches and a small odd looking black cube on it. Is it possible to use removable batteries and how?"
One switch controls power to the main LED matrix while the other controls power to the side boards. They're independent of each other. I could have wired everything to one switch, so it is simply personal preference.
Since there are two independent switches, I have two independent power cables. That 'cube' you're referring to is nothing more than two 1x3 connector housings glued together. In my application, my LIPO batteries can be removed by simply disconnecting the power controller. You can easily use a project box and fit 6xAA batteries if you want.


Where did you get those flat LED's from?
I bought mine from Ebay. Just do a search for "2x5x7 Rectangle LED"



these sidebars look fantastic. Are you planning on releasing the schematics for it at some point ?

i appreciate all your help with this post since you inspired me to create my own helmet :)
 
hey tekparasite,

just wanted to give you props for your great and elegant project. really cool. im using your method myself at the moment to realize my helmet.

thanks!
 
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