Constantine Brass Knuckles

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by franz bolo, Jan 11, 2006.

  1. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    If anyone has any info or images on these, that would be cool.

    Screencaps etc. are welcome. I was thinking of gettinf one water jet with lazer engraving, but I have no reference for them.

    If someone is selling them, please let me know.

    I know Russrep started one.

    Thanks

    FB
     
  2. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    Yes Franz, use the * search function and check all the links next time.

    HERE is the link Knuckle Head.

    FB
     
  3. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    What's with the attitude fool? :angry

    Anyway, more pics woukld be nice. :angel


    Thanks

    FB
     
  4. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    Did any company do liscensed props from the movie?

    FB
     
  5. mez7

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    the shotgun, which was listed as being cast off a stunt shotgun, so the engraving is apparently weak, and is missing some parts, and some statues were made as well, a few of keanu were are all i saw.
     
  6. OldKen

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    hey franz, if you and yourself cant get along take it elswhere. :p

    holy brass nuckles bat man.

    sorry,

    i had no point.

    cool pics though, i hadnt seen those.

    im sure more are to come.
     
  7. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    :p

    Does anyone have some good frontal shots of the Brass Knuckles?

    Also, any clue of the width/height?

    thanks

    FB
     
  8. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    Here's a quick sketch of what I invision.

    The problem is that I can't decipher hardly any of the text. I placed dummy text where I can't decipher the original words.

    [​IMG]

    FB
     
  9. synasp

    synasp Sr Member

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    Can someone get the exact wording? I'm extremely interested in this project if we can get all the details correct.
     
  10. Nexus6

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    You can see the words pretty clearly in my screencaps in this thread. The words say: FIAT IUSTITIA ET PIRIAT MUNDUS (Let justice be done, though the world be destroyed), with a couple of variations. Some of them are written in reverse (mirrored).
     
  11. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    I have no clue to Latin, if that's what it is. Thanks for the translation.

    I was using those same screencaps and you can see what I saw. :p

    If someone can tell me what all the parts say, I'll redo the graphic.

    I also need to change the font, but for now that one works ok.

    Here are the zones of text that needs to be deciphered:

    1) It looks like there are 2 rings of text around each finger hole.
    2) Each knuckle area has text.
    3) The bottom area and center.


    thanks

    FB

    p.s. thanks Nexus6 for the great reference pics.
     
  12. Nexus6

    Nexus6 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Correct. Around each hole the inner circle reads (clockwise): "FIAT IUSTITIA ET PIRIAT MUNDUS PIRIAT ET STITIA", then the outer ring reads the exact same phrase mirrored (counterclockwise).

    ...More to come.
     
  13. Nexus6

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  14. Nexus6

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    The text that reads vertically between the HOLY & SPIRITUS is pretty muddled in these caps. Near as I can tell, it looks to be "ET CONSTANTINE ___________".

    I'll have to see about getting some additional shots. :unsure
     
  15. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    Great Job...

    I'll add the text today.

    Thanks :D

    Is it IUSTITIA or IUSTICIA?

    FB
     
  16. IronFist

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    To expand on what you see, it looks like it says, "ET CONSTANTINE ___SPQR__".

    SPQR is an initialism for the Latin phrase Senatus Populusque Romæ. The translation is "The Senate and the People of Rome". Perhaps this is in reference to the Pope or the Vatican?
     
  17. franz bolo

    franz bolo Sr Member

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    Updated text changes.

    The width of these are 4.5" right now. Does anyone have a clue as to the correct width/height?

    [​IMG]

    FB
     
  18. Nexus6

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    The first one.

    On a trivial note, the word "PIRIAT" is actally misspelled on the hero. The actual spelling is "PEREAT".
     
  19. Beeb89

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    Pretty darn cool, my friend. Great job. :)

    -B89. :D
     
  20. synasp

    synasp Sr Member

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    Did LeMarchand ever finish his? Maybe he's got some info to share...

    Is the other side of this exactly the same?
     
  21. Nexus6

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    Well, I'm gonna take a break. I've spent the better part of 4 hours collecting/reviewing/graphically manipulating screencaps. And the only conclusion I've come to, is that there are more letters in the "pommel" area than we've identified yet.

    Here is the best cap I could get:

    [​IMG]
     
  22. Nexus6

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    :confused :unsure

    [​IMG]
     
  23. Yorpheus

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    ET CONSTANTINUUM SPOKAT

    ET CONSTANTINUUM SPOKAT

    ET CONSTANTINO M SPOKAT

    ?
     
  24. Xizor

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    So, is this a project that is going to go? If so, keep me in mind...
     
  25. synasp

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    ET CONSTANTINE RM SPQR AT

    :confused

    that makes no sense. :lol
     
  26. Nexus6

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    But the tricky part is, one has to consider "gibberish" as an option (since other spelling errors exist on the piece). So what is on there, & what should have been on there could be two totally different things.
     
  27. TimDrakeRobin

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    I just popped on the DVD and paused it on the clearest shot and there appears to be a T just before the S, so i dont think it is constantine or something like his name. I think it is more like this...

    ET CONTSINTINIUM SPOKAT
     
  28. synasp

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    CLATTO VERATA NICTO?

    I think we have the "O" and "K" in the last word pegged at "Q" and "R"... (it's on the first page).

    So the unknown is what's in bold:
    ET CONSTANTINERMSPQRAT

    right?
     
  29. TimDrakeRobin

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    ok check this out... I just went through the piece about the knuckles again, I noticed at the end of the feature about the holy relics there is the little montage of all the props. I paused it on the shot of the knuckles, it is by far the clearest shot of it. and i can clearly see the lettering.

    ET CONTENTIN**M SPORAT

    it looks almost like "UU" or "OU" where I left the stars.

    ET CONTENTINOUM SPORAT

    nevermind, I found some software and got a cap myself. looks like UU to me
    [​IMG]
     
  30. Nexus6

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    Hmm. Wow, I turned the DVD off after the brass knuckles part. I didn't even think to watch to the end. Well, in light of that screencap, I'd have to say that the inscription reads: "ET CONTANTINUUM SPORAT", which is gibberish (unless my Latin is worse than I thought). Is that what everyone else sees?

    But like I said before, there are other "typos" on the piece anyway...
     
  31. TimDrakeRobin

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    yup, so this is what it looks like we have so far
    [​IMG]
     
  32. Zaphod

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    Very cool. Nice bit o research on this thing.
     
  33. russrep

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    Hi Guys thats looks good.... Is there any way of getting that made in to some kind of tranfer??? OR STICKER?? I'll print it off and stick it on one of my machined knuckles. I'm going to have the knuckles plated a gold colour to match, I'll try to get some pics up to nite.
    Russ.
     
  34. russrep

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    Just tried printing it off.. I cant get the right size.. Can I drawout a template of the metal knuckles I have here. And I can send them to some 1 to match the size... All I might have some 1 who could copy the picture and make it in to a see through transfer..... Let me know...
    Russ.
     
  35. franz bolo

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    Hi Russrep. If you can give me your knuckle outline, I'll send it back to you with the art work I have so far. I'm not sure if mine is the one to use or if someone else has a good one. I am using Illustrator.

    I will redraw the floral looking area to be more like the prop.

    TimDrakeRobin, what font did you use? The one I used is for placement and it will save me some time finding it.

    As far as making these, I was thinking about getting them laser etched. I don't know about acid etching, but that might be an option. I'm not to excited about a sticker though.

    Thanks for all the work you guys put into this. :D
     
  36. TimDrakeRobin

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    Hey,
    The font i used is called Papyrus. I use it for everything lol, but in this case i think it works really well.
     
  37. synasp

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    wow, very nice screen cap TDR.

    What's that artifact inbetween the "A" and "N" for "ET CONTANTINUUM SPORAT"

    Is the text font going to be individually drawn, or just a "close enough" font?
     
  38. TimDrakeRobin

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    Hmmm, what artifact are you refering to?

    Im not sure if this is the actual font seen on the knuckles, but it looks close me lol. Myabe maybe not.
     
  39. Nexus6

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    He's talking about the marks (highlighted) between the 'A' & the 'N', I think.

    It looks like surface imperfections to me... Akin to the ones under the 'M' & the 'S'.

    And I'm with you FB, if a sticker was the only option, I wouldn't bother... 2 cents
     
  40. TimDrakeRobin

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    yea i think that since it is a rubber prop that are are simpley a few flaws and bubbles, maybe even dents and scratches.
     
  41. franz bolo

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    Here's some updates.

    Still a ways to go, but getting closer.

    I have to align all the rings of text up, and redraw the floral stuff.

    [​IMG]

    Thanks Wackychimp..
    Thanks TimDrakeRobin for the font.

    FB
     
  42. Nexus6

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    Nice. B):thumbsup
     
  43. TimDrakeRobin

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    looking good.
    No Problem, I have the font thats on the Lighter as well.
     
  44. TimDrakeRobin

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    actually that floral stuff looks pretty good as is in comparison.
    [​IMG]
     
  45. franz bolo

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    Thanks, but I did it really fast just to get something started.
    I can do a much better/accurate job.

    What if the word was supposed to be Continuum?

    They might have measured the sentence wrong and just added the extra letters to fill up the space. That could be why there is a blob between the T and the N.

    I have no clue on SPORAT. It could mean sport???
    I never studied latin. I just searched on the internet.

    FB
     
  46. franz bolo

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    TimDrakeRobin, do you have a quality shot like this one of the entire floral section?

    This pic is really clean...

    FB
     
  47. TimDrakeRobin

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    I'm Afraid not, that is the cleanest shot of the detail on the floral design, unfortunatley the whole shot is that close up.
     
  48. fejk

    fejk New Member

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    Thank u Franz for getting this project going cuz this must be done :) .
    I started a thread on this a while back but never got around to showing my progress. But i did start with the pattern. Then my son was born and now my time is his time. I just thought id share what i have done, Ill be watching this thread.



    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  49. temponaut

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    Franz et al., I just have to tell you, I've been watching this thread from its inception and I am totally impressed not only by the beautiful work you're doing, but by the terrific way you are collaborating to pull together the necessary information and materials.

    I knew there was a good reason I joined the RPF.

    You guys rock. :D
     
  50. franz bolo

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    Hey, thanks for the comments. I'm just glad that others here are interested in this thread also. I've seen a lot of threads I'm interested in die a slow horrible death. :D

    Fejk, good start.


    Here's a pen sketch of the floral pattern. I'll redo it in vector to get it real clean and fix up the borders and stuff.

    [​IMG]

    FB
     

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