I mean, what else besides and R2 can get naked guys to Pose next to it at Fishermans Wharf in San Francisco!!!!
Well, I beg to differ. These guys will pose with anyone and anything, as far as I have seen! :lol
I am not going to argue with anyone here about this, we can take that off board.
When you say "we" it sounds like you mean me. I don't care to argue with you about anything on or off.
I understand the plans are free. But they do come with restrictions which you must agree exist. Any person doing parts runs in the group gets the parts from a machine shop which charges for labor and parts... that is fine, but if a member of the group has the means to do these parts themselves, its not OK to charge for labor and machining costs. That is where we differ from opinion greatly.
Fascinating. How is it you are able to discern my opinions about the agreement between LFL and the R2 Builders group?
It is their stipulation that members not be allowed to make a profit from their intellectual property, not mine. I didn't negotiate with LFL in any way, nor did I get to set any of the rules.
As a member of that club and enjoying the support they have given the group over the years, I can certainly accept the rules they have laid out though. I mention it here because you haven't and it may be of interest to people who do want to go ver and join that group and build up an R2. Making references to secret handshakes and likening it to the "DaVinci Code" does the group a tremendous injustice, despite fawning on your blog or elsewhere.
Anyway, my views dont matter, I am not a member of that group, and I welcome that so called "STRONG REACTION" whatever that means... I love Internet Tough Guys, and there are many out there that want to bully people into seeing things their way....I am not one of them. My downfall is I make my real world persona accessible by email, phone numbers etc, in so many places. But I feel Honesty is the best thing to do... If anyone decides to do business with me they get my email, phone number and home address... that seems lacking in so many people doing parts runs, here on RPF or in other places on the web.
Ill even post my phone number for anyone with questions. 415- san francisco area code... 886-R2D2 (7232) in case anyone wants to talk in person... Call me, talk to me, ask what you want... I bet no one else here will offer up their phone number... call me if you care and really want to know how things went... but keep in mind I am on California time.....
I'm not sure what to make of this. Do you think I am trying to threaten you or are you implying that I am trying to be one of the "Internet Tough Guys" that you love?
Let me clarify:
You got, in my opinion, a strong reaction from members of the R2 Builders group when you resurfaced last year.
You posted very friendly, helpful posts and were met with people who remembered your past actions and seemed to react negatively to you. I thought you agreed with this reaction as you said you didn't want to participate on the board any longer since it was clear to you that you couldn't get past people's feelings or perceptions of you.
I am certainly summing things up and paraphrasing here, but have I missed what was going on? To leave a board that you speak no ill of, due to people's personal attacks would seem, to me, to be a response to a strong reaction from a large group of people.
Were you not aware that many of those same people are here too? You may never hear from anyone, but I would think, leaving that environment and coming to this one and starting a discussion thread and then a blog about building an R2, you might expect to hear from those same people.
They can call you or do whatever they want.
That's what I meant by a strong reaction and why I didn't think you had seen one yet. You may never.
You do not owe me money or parts and you have never wronged me. I am enjoying the cnc discussions.
I am not trying to get you to see things "my way."
I am posting to clarify things that are being alluded to and paint the R2 group in an unflattering light.
Better for people to go check it out for themselves.