Christian Bale Calls it Quits After Dark Knight Rises

I like the new take on 'ol Bats,but if you want to do something nice...why not try to do like others have said and follow one of the comic series? please no more "Batman origin" we've done that to death.

Personally? I say give us the gray and black Batman and do Gothic~Batman Vs. an undead monk? a demon who comes back as a nun the monk killed to reclaim his soul? or yes! please!

From there....any of the really good Joker stories with a real twisted serial killer Joker? that'd be nice.
 
Kerr Avon said:
I wasn't crazy about the first one, and I am really not feeling much for this third one yet, but only time will tell on actually viewing it.

But if you can actually say that "The Dark Knight" was one of the most forgettable films in history, I question your taste in films.
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Ledgers performance and Two-Faces make up where the only bright
spots in The Dark Knight that made it semi good. I'll give it that.

Begins was hard to sit through and even today, I have to change the
channel when it's on.

From what I have seen on the third one, I'll be passing on it until it hits
DVD.

The Tumbler, the Batpod and now the hovering Mosquito. Although cool
designed vehicles in real life(except for the last one), NONE of them
scream Batman at all. If they had shown up in any other film, I would have
enjoyed them more.
 
micdavis said:
Nick,

You know I respect your film and television savvy.

But it has taken me years to warm up enough to the Nolan Batmans, that they are only now tolerable to watch.

Funny how some movie just don't click with some people.
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Different strokes, brother. :thumbsup
If I was a huge fan of any previous iteration, I imagine I'd have a pretty hard time liking these, too.
 
Bale/Nolan take on Batman and its universe is theatrically stunning, decent story, and captivating enough for the general audience. The problem is do we associate with the general audience? Myself i dont think i am the general audience, going forward nothing in this trilogy screams Batman. Generic armor suit, generic assault tank, and generic scenery. Thats why thru out the 3 movies the only thing that said batman is the villains and the name batman being used in the movie.

Tim Burtons batman on the other hand, is its own universe gotham city actually felt lik something out of a graphic novel, the b-mobile was actually a b-mobile, wayne manor felt like wayne manor, and the suit well very distinctive. Theatrically it was par, had some decent scenes, decent acting in the sense that they werent taking it too seriously. Was it a 4 star stunning masterpiece......No?

Joel schumakers Batman movies i feel is justified because the 90's was a weird era. Theatrically it gave the people what they want for that time big name actors, cheesy lines, some interesting action, comerical deals, and play sets. It had distinct universe not saying thats a good thing, it just didnt give off a genuine vibe.

Honestly the 2 batman movies i feel are best theatrically and universally known as batman movies are not live action. Mask of the phantasm, and Batman beyond: Return of the joker.
 
tetsuyacasshern said:
Bale/Nolan take on Batman and its universe is theatrically stunning, decent story, and captivating enough for the general audience. The problem is do we associate with the general audience? Myself i dont think i am the general audience, going forward nothing in this trilogy screams Batman. Generic armor suit, generic assault tank, and generic scenery. Thats why thru out the 3 movies the only thing that said batman is the villains and the name batman being used in the movie.

Tim Burtons batman on the other hand, is its own universe gotham city actually felt lik something out of a graphic novel, the b-mobile was actually a b-mobile, wayne manor felt like wayne manor, and the suit well very distinctive. Theatrically it was par, had some decent scenes, decent acting in the sense that they werent taking it too seriously. Was it a 4 star stunning masterpiece......No?

Joel schumakers Batman movies i feel is justified because the 90's was a weird era. Theatrically it gave the people what they want for that time big name actors, cheesy lines, some interesting action, comerical deals, and play sets. It had distinct universe not saying thats a good thing, it just didnt give off a genuine vibe.

Honestly the 2 batman movies i feel are best theatrically and universally known as batman movies are not live action. Mask of the phantasm, and Batman beyond: Return of the joker.
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Someones forgetting Batman meets Scooby Doo!:lol (I love that cartoon!)
 
I didn't like any of the Nolan films, I thought Bale was terrible, the Batmobile.......thing.....was stupid and don't know what character Heath Ledger was playing because it wasn't the Joker.

Annnnd before you just call me a 'hater' I liked Gordon, Scarecrow and Two-Face.
 
Can I get a hellz yeah for anyone else who thinks it's about time for a live-action adaptation of "Worlds Finest"???
 
Larry Young said:
Clint's too old, now, but I would love to see a straight-up DARK KNIGHT RETURNS with somebody like Tommy Lee Jones.
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Look it up...Tommy Lee Jones was actually IN a batman movie as two face....(Not the Nolan version BTW)

I'm probably the only person who hasn't seen The Dark Knight :( however I enjoyed Batman Begins.
 
I am fairly sure I read WB is going to continue nolans story with out him through a tv series. Can any one confirme?

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GeneralFROSTY said:
Can I get a hellz yeah for anyone else who thinks it's about time for a live-action adaptation of "Worlds Finest"???
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NO!!!! HOLLYWOOD WOULD SCREW IT UP!!!

And for what tetsuyacasshern said: I agree mainly with the last part, but I liked Batman: Forever, mainly because of Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones. :)

But I definitely agree with Mask of the Phantasm and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker being amazing. (World's finest, Mask of the Phantasm, and return of the Joker are the best Batman movies, ever!):love
 
I really like Nolan's first two bat films. The villains weren't completely over the top (I'm looking at you Schumacher), and I like that the universe is a bit more grounded in reality. And I like the dynamic Bruce Wayne/Batman relationship. He comes across more to me as Bruce being the disguise, which echoes what I grew up with in B:TAS.

Plus, I love that Nolan does as much in camera as possible, as CGI, especially poorly done CGI, completely pulls me out of the movie (had that problem a bit with Captain America). I like that they actually pick a theme, and sculpt the movie around it (choosing the best villains for it, picking a color palette, etc...). And the minimalistic but instantly recognizable musical cues are great. I really hope the third film doesn't suffer the fate of other threequels, but Nolan hasn't done wrong by me yet (both with the Bat films and his other works).
 
I think three movies will be enough. I don't understand the hate against Bale as batman much though, considering he's what, the second actor to do a serious batman (it's him and Keaton, and seriously, Keaton didn't look like neither Wayne or Batman, even if he did a great job as an actor, Jack Nicholson as the Joker was , well Jack . Nothing to complain about there:) ) The old movie/series with the cool car were campy fun, but I wouldn't call it very serious. There are rumours that there were made batman movies between Keaton and Bale, and even some Clooney guy, and people say Arnold, Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones has played in real Batman movies, and I choose not to believe those romours....
(Val Kilmer actually looked good in the role though )
The only thing I can understand that people dislike in the Nolan films is the realism, but Bale is Bruce Wayne. And the Tumbler, but it makes sense in a 'realistic' world that he uses military equipment, but watching both Begins and TDK, there were scenes were it felt like Nolan was fishing for the job as James Bond director.
 
I'd take another Clooney bat movie over another series of Nolan/Bale batflicks.

I'm baffled at the love for these films. The costume, the 'Batmobile,' the gravel voice... the plots that pretend to have substance. Hide it all behind an air 'darkness,' some fake grittiness... and the worst Bruce Wayne ever. I won't even mention the useless Rachel character (and Gyllenhaal's terrible performance), the throw away Two Face storyline and the nearly non-menacing Rha's Al Ghul.

Two good thing's came out the Nolan Batman movies: Gary Oldman's Gordon has been perfect and Ledger's performance as the Joker (not necessarily the Joker character).

I might be exagerating a bit on the Clooney bit... Keaton did a good job even with Burton's wacky story. At least his Wayne had some charisma and charm... not Bale's bah, I-don't-know-what-to-do-with-this-character performance.
 
JD said:
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Forgot to add the part at end when you say, "in my opinion..."

I think Bale does a good job, and I agree with what you said about Gary Oldman, Heath Ledger, and even Maggie Gyllenhaal. But when you said Bale didn't play Bruce Wayne/Batman very well, and Ra's al Ghul wasn't menacing, well we disagree there.

But yeah, I wish they kept Two-Face alive... :confused
 
JD said:
I might be exagerating a bit on the Clooney bit... Keaton did a good job even with Burton's wacky story. At least his Wayne had some charisma and charm... not Bale's bah, I-don't-know-what-to-do-with-this-character performance.
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Interesting take. I can see where the "Ooooooh dark" stuff gets tedious for some folks, especially if they were around for this the first time it hit in the comics back in the 80s with Frank Miller, but I'm a bit surprised by your read of Bale as Bruce Wayne.

I think he played Bruce Wayne honestly. Much of the time, we're show the dichotomy between "Caped Crusader" and "Billionaire Playboy." And nothing in between. I think Bale's approach is to make it clear that he wears TWO masks: the playboy and the crusader. But the real Bruce Wayne IS Batman. That's the thing. It's like the Clark Kent/Superman thing. Clark Kent is the disguise. The real man is Superman. Towards that end, a serious, determined Bruce Wayne that we see especially in the first film, and in small doses in the second, that's not all that different from the caped crusader in terms of what makes him tick.


To my way of thinking, the first film does a terrific job with this. The second film, though, drops the ball by splitting focus between three principles. It ceases to be a BATMAN movie and becomes a movie that has Batman and some villains in it. End result: we don't get a real feel for what's driving Batman because we're trying to get a read on the Joker and Two-Face.
 
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