Captain America: Civil War (Post-release)

[dascoyne]

Got back from my second viewing and enjoyed it even more.

Are there any clues as to who else is in the super max prison, besides the known heroes? I was wondering if I missed some hints or easter eggs.

I would be so happy if there's a CG Howard the Duck in there to start a running gag.

 

[maffhewdc]

I would be so happy if there's a CG Howard the Duck in there to start a running gag.

While I would really like to see that, it wouldn't fit in the tone of the movie and it would just be too distracting. But I'd like to see Howard the Duck in GotG2 though

 

[Dessa]

one thing i was not aware of... and i may have forgotten. but when tony asks cap if he knew bucky killed his parents and cap said yes. what movie and when do we learn that cap knows bucky killed tony's parents? i can't recall seeing that? and that confused me

I know that others have commented as well, but the way I took the dialogue was that he knew that Tony's parents HAD been killed by Hydra, but not that Bucky had been the one to do it.

 

[maffhewdc]

I know that others have commented as well, but the way I took the dialogue was that he knew that Tony's parents HAD been killed by Hydra, but not that Bucky had been the one to do it.

Which is why in Civil War...

Tony: Did you know?
Cap: I didn't know it was him.
Tony: Don't **** with me Rogers. Did you know?
Cap: Yes.

 

[Vox]

Favorite moments:
- "Can you move the seat forward?" "No."
- Wilson and Bucky giving Cap the "My man!" nod/smile after Cap kisses Sharon.
- Ant-Man's "I'm the boss I'm the boss I'm the boss" into going Giant, and the "MUAH HA HA" that followed.
- The scene where Tony Stark meets Peter Parker
- The acting between Sebastian Stan, Chris Evans, and RDJ in the finale.

Minor complaint:
- Why didn't Bucky plug his ears when Zemo is reading the trigger words?

I saw it twice this weekend. I intend on seeing it at least once more while it is in theaters. The MCU films carrying the Captain America title have been my favorites, each one outdoing the previous one, and Civil War continues that trend. Not only has this film take the title of "my favorite MCU film," but in my opinion it is the best MCU film we have received to date.

 

[dascoyne]

Minor complaint:
- Why didn't Bucky plug his ears when Zemo is reading the trigger words?

Weren't his arms restrained to the chair? When he gets "activated" those restraints are the first things he breaks.

 

[airair]

great movie!
i was surprised at how good the fight scenes were. Ant Man was brilliant in this.

Enjoyed this movie, and also enjoyed BvS.

 

[Snikt]

No offense to anyone that likes BvS, I just dont understand how you can like both films, and Im not even saying that as a Marvel fanboy or anything. Civil War is a very good example of having a lot of characters, themes, and conflict but didnt seem to suffer from any type of bloat. It was a very calculated, well written, and well crafted movie. There were easter eggs, and nods to the comics, the acting was great. BvS was the opposite, and I really wanted that movie to succeed. Lets be honest, what was the worst part of Civil War? Aside from the shaky cam in the beginning, that I think we all agree was whack, but they got rid of it as the movie went on. My only beef with it was when Bucky escaped after Zemo activated him, and Zemo was on the ground pretending to be injured, and then all of a sudden it shoes him at the airport with some pie. Maybe there was a deleted scene or something there, but that was my only REAL problem with it. There was a couple things I didnt get, like why does Howard Stark have 5 things of Super Soldier serum, and why did he have to deliver it to the pentagon? Can someone answer that, or has it been answered and I missed it?

 

[Father]

great movie!
i was surprised at how good the fight scenes were. Ant Man was brilliant in this.

Love when he's in Stark's armor.
Ant-Man: "Oh, you're going to have to take this to the shop."Iron Man: "Who's speaking?"
Ant-Man: "It's your conscience. We don't talk a lot these days."

Another one that cracked me up.
Sam Wilson to Spider-Man: "Is this stuff coming out of you?"

 

[niennumb1]

Can someone answer that, or has it been answered and I missed it?

"A Good Question for another time."

 

[Vivek]

Inside The New Marvel Bullpen | Birth.Movies.Death.

 

[firesprite]

Favorite moments:
- "Can you move the seat forward?" "No."
- Wilson and Bucky giving Cap the "My man!" nod/smile after Cap kisses Sharon.
- Ant-Man's "I'm the boss I'm the boss I'm the boss" into going Giant, and the "MUAH HA HA" that followed.
- The scene where Tony Stark meets Peter Parker
- The acting between Sebastian Stan, Chris Evans, and RDJ in the finale.

Minor complaint:
- Why didn't Bucky plug his ears when Zemo is reading the trigger words?

I saw it twice this weekend. I intend on seeing it at least once more while it is in theaters. The MCU films carrying the Captain America title have been my favorites, each one outdoing the previous one, and Civil War continues that trend. Not only has this film take the title of "my favorite MCU film," but in my opinion it is the best MCU film we have received to date.

Weren't his arms restrained to the chair? When he gets "activated" those restraints are the first things he breaks.

He was restrained at shoulders, biceps, elbows and wrists as I recall. No ear-plugging going on unless he suddenly gained Mister Fantastic's abilities.

 

[third3ye]

one thing i was not aware of... and i may have forgotten. but when tony asks cap if he knew bucky killed his parents and cap said yes. what movie and when do we learn that cap knows bucky killed tony's parents? i can't recall seeing that? and that confused me

In TWS when Cap and BW are speaking to Zola as a computer, he insinuates that Bucky killed Tony's parents. While it wasn't a confirmatory statement in that scene, given that Steve and Sam continued digging into Bucky's past, it's likely they could have found something else that would confirm Zola's statement.

 

[third3ye]

...speaking of webhead, how does Tony rationalize putting a a high school kid's life on the line like he did by dropping him into this huge fight? I get he's a metahuman, he's already risking life and limb and all that - but, he's still a kid. I kept expecting Cap to mention that to put Stark in his place - missed opportunity.

They gloss over this with Team Iron Man and also with Scott risking jail time to help a complete stranger in Cap. All in all I didn't mind the questionable character motivations for these two, it wasn't a huge gaping plot hole to me and their inclusion in the airport fight made it so much more entertaining. I kinda just chalked it up to Parker and Lang being star-struck that these two superstars wanted their help, and they were being more agreeable than they should be under normal circumstances.

 

[firesprite]

...speaking of webhead, how does Tony rationalize putting a a high school kid's life on the line like he did by dropping him into this huge fight? I get he's a metahuman, he's already risking life and limb and all that - but, he's still a kid. I kept expecting Cap to mention that to put Stark in his place - missed opportunity.

Tony has a pretty consistent track record of glossing over or failing to mention his lapses in judgement and it's not like he and Cap were bestest of buddies just then. I doubt he felt the need to tell Cap "Hey, that kid in the red and blue onesie? Yeah, I totes blackmailed him into coming to fight you by threatening to tell his super-hot auntie that he's been playing superhero".

Also, there was no real reason for Cap to question it. The kid was obviously jazzed to be there, so there was no reason for him not to assume Spider-Man volunteered. Maybe it will be mentioned later when the team is a bit more together again.

 

[JD]

Also, there was no real reason for Cap to question it. The kid was obviously jazzed to be there, so there was no reason for him not to assume Spider-Man volunteered. Maybe it will be mentioned later when the team is a bit more together again.

I get that. But, based on Spidey's attitude, language and stature - it shouldn't be hard for Cap to figure out he's dealing with someone pretty young. It's also not unreasonable that Cap or Black Widow had knowledge about Parker.

 

[Vox]

Weren't his arms restrained to the chair? When he gets "activated" those restraints are the first things he breaks.

He was restrained at shoulders, biceps, elbows and wrists as I recall. No ear-plugging going on unless he suddenly gained Mister Fantastic's abilities.

True enough, when Zemo says the first word, he's restrained. But, like a combination lock, Bucky isn't "ready to comply" until all the words have been said in sequence. By the third or fourth word, Bucky had broken out of the restraints and was trying to punch his way out of the box. He's literally fighting to get away until Zemo says "Freight Car." So, rather than trying to punch his way out, why didn't he just plug his ears at that point?

To be fair, I am asking this question only half seriously. To have the Winter Soldier plug his ears while shouting, "LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" would not exactly have been characteristic. In fact, we got a very characteristic response which was an immediate desire to get out of the box and either deal with the source of his torment or run away from it; precisely what I would expect from a partially unstable character like that. It was just the only moment that really stuck out to me while watching the film and made me think, "Duh, just do THAT, dummy!"

I wouldn't be surprised if we see the exact scene I just mentioned in the inevitable "How Civil War Should Have Ended" video from the folks at HISHE.

 

[dascoyne]

True enough, when Zemo says the first word, he's restrained. But, like a combination lock, Bucky isn't "ready to comply" until all the words have been said in sequence. By the third or fourth word, Bucky had broken out of the restraints and was trying to punch his way out of the box. He's literally fighting to get away until Zemo says "Freight Car." So, rather than trying to punch his way out, why didn't he just plug his ears at that point?

To be fair, I am asking this question only half seriously. To have the Winter Soldier plug his ears while shouting, "LA LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" would not exactly have been characteristic. In fact, we got a very characteristic response which was an immediate desire to get out of the box and either deal with the source of his torment or run away from it; precisely what I would expect from a partially unstable character like that. It was just the only moment that really stuck out to me while watching the film and made me think, "Duh, just do THAT, dummy!"

I wouldn't be surprised if we see the exact scene I just mentioned in the inevitable "How Civil War Should Have Ended" video from the folks at HISHE.

Acting as apologist here: it's possible that, in the state he's in, he's pretty much going to lose his fine motor skills. In a state of hysteria he's going to lash out at the offending stimulus by punching the glass.

Similarly, if you were enraged and pumped up with adrenalin, would you be able to rummage through a bunch of keys to open a door or would you just kick it down (presuming you had the strength and ability to do so)?

 

[third3ye]

As a member of the popcorn-eating audience here: if Bucky plugged his ears and Zemo got caught then and there, the movie would be over 10 min after that and I'd want my money back :lol

 

[Vivek]

I liked this song for Peter Parker's intro in Queens.

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Captain America: Civil War OST (Spider-Man Walk Scene Song) Left Hand Free with lyrics - YouTube