NakedMoleRat
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I’m not looking for them to fail, I’d just like them to go back to making movies that I like again. Phase 1-4 type of movies.
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Paul Andrew
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The "I'm so angry/glad everything is terrible and it's because of the woke mind virus and KK and an anthropomorphic mouse" thing is kinda weird to me.
The company that makes all the stuff I love doesn't need to fail in order to make me feel righteous about them making a few movies that didn't hit the way their predecessors did. In fact, I'd prefer they stick around given the number of people they employ that are genuinely trying their best to make quality entertainment.
The amount of slavering anticipation for Disney to implode is awfully disquieting to me.
NakedMoleRat
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Exactly. I love Disney.
I’m glad that they bought Star Wars.
Has what they’ve made been nothing but a string of home-runs? No. Some have been good, some just ok, and one horrible TV show.
But at least they’re MAKING Star Wars.
What did George do since 2005?
I’m glad that they bought Star Wars.
Has what they’ve made been nothing but a string of home-runs? No. Some have been good, some just ok, and one horrible TV show.
But at least they’re MAKING Star Wars.
What did George do since 2005?
Joek3rr
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Why? Current Disney is an all consuming monster, devouring everything and everyone.
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TimDRX
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To a certain point I'd rather an IP lie fallow than get bad installments. Like after the original plan for Star Wars episode IX fell apart, they absolutely should have taken a few years to figure out what to do next rather than bang out what we got. Because that's the ninth Star Wars movie now, forever.
It has been gratifying seeing Disney pander to the people in power the last few months - that Win or Lose show in particular really shows what they are at their core. They trashed a storyline about a trans kid and replaced it with one about a kid "coming out" as a Christian. I've seen people on this very board argue that Disney has some progressive agenda they're pushing. Hope this is the final nail in that narrative. Disney does not care about anything beyond money. They thought there was money in pretending to be woke. Now they think there's money in the opposite direction.
Also hey I never chimed in on Brave New World! It was fine! But man you can really see hints and traces of a much better movie in there at moments, particularly in the first act. The stuff with Isaiah resenting the invitation to the White House had some meat on it, for example. But they shave off every rough edge, anything even vaguely politically sensitive.
I often roll my eyes when I hear a piece of media is "apolitical" because that's nonsense IMO, any piece of art is inherently political and if you think otherwise it's just because your politics align with it. But man, Marvel proved me wrong, they managed to wring any ounce of politics out of a movie where a black man wears the American flag as a costume. That's kind of impressive!
Also some really bizarre structural issues. Some scenes were just wildly unnecessary, like when
EDIT: oh hey while I'm ranting, y'know what really sucked - the costume change at the start! Just an absolute grab bag of fumbles. So we've gotta do a bunch of stuff at the start of this movie;
- give Cap the new Black Panther kinetic absorption powers
- give Cap a new costume because Anthony Mackie hates the neck cowl thing (Christian Bale problems lol)
- establish Adamantium as a new metal with extreme value and utility
The movie has an obvious opportunity to do all of these things at once; have Cap in the (non-kinetic) vibranium suit he got in the TV show get in a fight with a guy wielding an Adamantium knife. The knife damages the vibranium suit, much to Cap's surprise. He informs the Wakandans about this, they're concerned about this mysterious super metal too, they hook him up with a new costume with the kinetic powers to compensate for the danger Adamantium poses.
Instead in the movie...
Something about that whole sequence feels so messy to me when it seems like there are so many ways to do it tidier.
It has been gratifying seeing Disney pander to the people in power the last few months - that Win or Lose show in particular really shows what they are at their core. They trashed a storyline about a trans kid and replaced it with one about a kid "coming out" as a Christian. I've seen people on this very board argue that Disney has some progressive agenda they're pushing. Hope this is the final nail in that narrative. Disney does not care about anything beyond money. They thought there was money in pretending to be woke. Now they think there's money in the opposite direction.
Also hey I never chimed in on Brave New World! It was fine! But man you can really see hints and traces of a much better movie in there at moments, particularly in the first act. The stuff with Isaiah resenting the invitation to the White House had some meat on it, for example. But they shave off every rough edge, anything even vaguely politically sensitive.
I often roll my eyes when I hear a piece of media is "apolitical" because that's nonsense IMO, any piece of art is inherently political and if you think otherwise it's just because your politics align with it. But man, Marvel proved me wrong, they managed to wring any ounce of politics out of a movie where a black man wears the American flag as a costume. That's kind of impressive!
Also some really bizarre structural issues. Some scenes were just wildly unnecessary, like when
they leave Stern's creepy prison/base and get arrested. That scene is absolutely baffling to me. They come out, cops arrive, Sam and Torres get arrested, the cuffs are on. Then they all get mind controlled, Sam tells Ruth to take their cuffs off via an ADR line, there's a shakey cam mess where... something is happening? And then they all somehow make it into a car and drive off.
What the hell is the point of that scene? We've already seen how the mind control works and the personnel files in the base established just how many people are compromised, this scene adds nothing, just cut straight from the base to them in the car! D:
What the hell is the point of that scene? We've already seen how the mind control works and the personnel files in the base established just how many people are compromised, this scene adds nothing, just cut straight from the base to them in the car! D:
EDIT: oh hey while I'm ranting, y'know what really sucked - the costume change at the start! Just an absolute grab bag of fumbles. So we've gotta do a bunch of stuff at the start of this movie;
- give Cap the new Black Panther kinetic absorption powers
- give Cap a new costume because Anthony Mackie hates the neck cowl thing (Christian Bale problems lol)
- establish Adamantium as a new metal with extreme value and utility
The movie has an obvious opportunity to do all of these things at once; have Cap in the (non-kinetic) vibranium suit he got in the TV show get in a fight with a guy wielding an Adamantium knife. The knife damages the vibranium suit, much to Cap's surprise. He informs the Wakandans about this, they're concerned about this mysterious super metal too, they hook him up with a new costume with the kinetic powers to compensate for the danger Adamantium poses.
Instead in the movie...
they start him off with a new costume he got off screen, to fix Mackie's issues with the neck piece. Torres has to give a quick exposition dump about it (which doesn't touch on the WHY they decided to give him Black Panther powers...) and then a bad guy damages it with a regular knife to give Sam the excuse to switch to a less colorful costume, I guess?
Something about that whole sequence feels so messy to me when it seems like there are so many ways to do it tidier.
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He got Clone Wars off the ground, in multiple incarnations, which, while rocky itself at points, gave us some awesome new characters and lore. I daresay it even made Ep. 3 better!
(pre-Disney sale)
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So, George was still involved with making movies,... just not very good ones.
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