Bladerunner question

[dropshipbob]

I was watching this on cable the other day and wondered about this.

When Deckard is questioning Rachael at the Tyrell building, he asks his last question to her...but she doesn't answer, they just look at each other. I can't remember what the question was, but I don't think it is all that important, plus those that are familiar with the movie should know the scene well.

So, is it just one of those things that came out in editing and wasn't really planned?

 

[Ttaskmaster]

She's at a banquet. The guests are enjoying appetisers of raw oysters. The entree consists of boiled dog.

The questions had been cross-referenced. By that stage, he had enough info to know.

I always assumed that because Rachel had insufficient memories to provide any kind of response, much less what I assume would be a human one of disgust, that was final confirmation of her being a Replicant.

 

[Lear60man]

In the script, the rest of the question reads "The entree consists of boiled dog. But you used your entree fork for your salad."

 

[Delmustator]

Yeah but in previous questions, Rachel was quick to respond with answers like "I'd kill it". So it would appear the Tyrell had implanted some basic human responses "as an experiment" to see how synthetic memories affected her behavior. It is evident in the way she dresses and acts toward Deckard.

 

[Treadwell]

The test measures physiological responses to the questions. The actual answers given are almost irrelevant. Just by her hearing the question, and (if she were human) involuntarily reacting, Deckard has the data, and could move on to the next question (or end the test).

 

[Funky]

The test measures physiological responses to the questions. The actual answers given are almost irrelevant. Just by her hearing the question, and (if she were human) involuntarily reacting, Deckard has the data, and could move on to the next question (or end the test).

That's a bingo.

 

[micdavis]

It's editing, but as usual BR fans read more into than may actually be there.

That whole scene is layered over itself on purpose in the editing. With questions and answers edited at varying intervals and repeated.

 

[outlander]

It's editing, but as usual BR fans read more into than may actually be there.

That whole scene is layered over itself on purpose in the editing. With questions and answers and varying intervals and repeated.

Err... What?

 

[Treadwell]

^, true, but as I recall the montage is over at that point and it's back to straightforward "real time" representation.

 

[HAL9000]

I always read it as - she didn't seem to have a moral compass with
regard to eating dog. Which, in the Blade Runner universe, would have
been reprehensive. Real animals being almost extinct / rare / expensive.

 

[Mutant-Enemy]

Don't forget "Fluctuation of the pupil. Involuntary dilation of the iris."

Her answer to the wasp question was supposed to belay a latent "Human" reaction though it was programmed into her as was the lesbian response and was one of the reasons it took over a hundred questions for Deckard to figure her out where-as it would take fourty or fifty, cross referenced for anything below a Nexus 6.

As was already mentioned, there was no need for her to vocally respond to the last question because by that time the machine was reading her loud and clear...and they both knew it...which was why she later went to his appartment, to try to prove to him that she was really human.

 

[Mutant-Enemy]

Here's another mind-bender to consider:
The dress she was wearing is trimmed at the cuffs, neck and arms with genuine lizard/snake skin (I got a real close look at it in the Sci-fi museum in Seattle)
Now what does THAT say about her character?

 

[SSgt Burton]

Here's another mind-bender to consider:
The dress she was wearing is trimmed at the cuffs, neck and arms with genuine lizard/snake skin (I got a real close look at it in the Sci-fi museum in Seattle)
Now what does THAT say about her character?

Okay... But how would we know whether or not the lizard/snake skin wasn't synthetic in the context of the movie.

Doesn't she wear a fur coat as well?


I've got a question- when Leon is taking the test at the beginning, is he sucessfully "beating the machine" (of course before the Mother question)? I realize they were just getting started etc- but Holden doesn't really seem to suspect anything at all before he gets ventilated.

Kevin

 

[d_jedi1]

Nah. Holden was just a "buster" which is why he got Greedo'd.

 

[Birdie]

As Mic said more eloquently, the editing is weird. It crossfades over (I think) the lesbian question like time is passing, when it's clearly realtime (on that question)

 

[Mutant-Enemy]

Leon was a Nexus 6 (you've seen the movie right?) which is why Holden didn't suspect anything until the end of the Tortise question and clinched it with the Mother question.

You know it now because I let you know about it as I saw the dress in person. Looking at it from less than a foot away I can tell you that it was genuine reptile skin of some kind...it wasn't obvious in the movie but now that you know about it you can consider the implications...see how that works?:rolleyes

I can't comment on the fur coats she wears in the movie as I've never seen them in person...I guess I'll have to assume they are supposed to be fake as there are laws in the movie about such things.

You might be interested to know that Ridley Scott shot so much EXTRA footage that the hard-core fans were able to use it to put together a whole alternate version of the film...pretty cool...I've seen that too.

 

[CessnaDriver]

Maybe she was tired of the whole thing at that point and didn't care anymore one way or the other to answer. That would be rather human of course, which is fine by me as just more evidence that replicants are people, not machines, not slaves. Just different.

 

[SSgt Burton]

Yes thank-you I've watched the movie. Sorry my question sounded ignorant or juvenile to you. :rolleyes :rolleyes

You know it now because I let you know about it as I saw the dress in person. Looking at it from less than a foot away I can tell you that it was genuine reptile skin of some kind...it wasn't obvious in the movie but now that you know about it you can consider the implications...see how that works?:rolleyes

Ummm... No I can't. Because I only deal with implications from the context of the film itself. It isn't "revealed" that she was wearing genuine snake skin (with some big "OMFG your wearing real snake skin?!" moment :eek). So I can only assume it was synthetic (or at the very least be on the fence about it).

See how that works? :rolleyes :rolleyes

Kevin

 

[Mike J.]

What really bugs me is that Deckard doesn't seem to notice the one other person in his tiny elevator.

How can you walk into an elevator and not see someone else in it? Was it just pitch black in that corner? :lol


-Mike J.

 

[micdavis]

He didn't notice because he's a replicant.