Blade Runner Prop Replicas

[voice in the crowd]

<div class='quotetop'>(franz bolo @ Sep 15 2006, 08:45 PM) [snapback]1320929[/snapback]</div>

Here you go:

The ID-1 format specifies a size of 85.60 × 53.98 mm (3.370 × 2.125 in). It is commonly used for banking cards (ATM cards, credit cards, debit cards, etc.). It is today also used for driving licences in many countries (including the United States and European Union), retail loyalty cards, and it is one fairly common format for business cards.

This is what I used for the ID replica I made.

FB
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Thanks :thumbsup

 

[Noeland]

OK, after looking at the picture of the whole wallet set, my first impression was that I was looking at a 20 year old fan made wallet being passed off as screen used. Especially after seeing the stuff from wondercon, they just don't jive stylistically in my brain. They ain't even close (as has been said before)

If this is production made, I really have to wonder if it wasn't just a totally rejected by Ridley Scott production made wallet.

The ID is curious in that the fuzzy pictures do create that pointy Y thing too, that would negate it being made by anyone in the production if that's actually the case.

Kicking the dead horse one more time . . .

:confused

 

[franz bolo]

Wrong thread.. You want this one http://www.therpf.com/index.php?showtopic=116514&st=280 which is for Phil's ID comparrison.

This is for discussing the WonderCon ID and the free paper props.

FB

 

[eltee]

<div class='quotetop'>(voice in the crowd @ Sep 15 2006, 12:41 PM) [snapback]1320924[/snapback]</div>

Amazing the detail you can gain from a blurry drivers licence

For the non US punters on the board exactly what size is a US drivers licence? Is it the same size as a credit card?

Any reply would be much appreciated.

Cheers Chris.
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There is no US standardized license, each state issues its own version. Some are plastic, some are paper, etc. The sizes, designs, materials, textures, authenticity features, etc. vary.

 

[franz bolo]

<div class='quotetop'>(eltee @ Sep 15 2006, 04:22 PM) [snapback]1321002[/snapback]</div>

There is no US standardized license, each state issues its own version. Some are plastic, some are paper, etc. The sizes, designs, materials, textures, authenticity features, etc. vary.
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What states have paper? What states don't follow the ID-1 format?

TEXAS does..

FB

 

[franz bolo]

It was mentioned that the Diamond shape could be from an RFID. People call it that now anyway.

I found a couple designs and Mocked up what one might look like using a real RFID:

I think they might have photocopied and inverted one corner of the RFID and not used it directly.

I haven't found one with the correct pattern, but I'm sure one exists. If anyone has one, please post it.

Thanks

FB

 

[phase pistol]

Okay, bad joke. I made a bad joke. You're not a replicant. Go home, okay? No really, I'm sorry. Go home -- Want a drink? I'll get you a drink.

:lol Anyway, the NY state drivers license I used for comparison, is exactly the same size as a VISA card. I think VISA cards are all the same size.

- k

 

[juno]

Phase -- did the pattern look screened on? Someone had mentioned that there are rub off moire patterns for use in cartooning, etc. I'm still apt to think that that is what it is.

"Amazing the detail you can gain from a blurry drivers licence" - Voice in the Crowd what you don't understand is the significance the triskedekalion has in Phase Pistol's life.

He's a replicant.

 

[eltee]

<div class='quotetop'>(franz bolo @ Sep 15 2006, 02:36 PM) [snapback]1321009[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>(eltee @ Sep 15 2006, 04:22 PM) [snapback]1321002[/snapback]

There is no US standardized license, each state issues its own version. Some are plastic, some are paper, etc. The sizes, designs, materials, textures, authenticity features, etc. vary.
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What states have paper? What states don't follow the ID-1 format?

TEXAS does..

FB
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Licenses still vary, especially the ones that are a couple years old. When I say paper, I mean a flexible but tough material, just not solid and stiff like a credit card or military ID card. It is probably a synthetic more like a platicized fabric than paper. You're right, however, as more and more are now the plastic PVC credit card types. Still a few holdouts now and then.

 

[phase pistol]

<div class='quotetop'>(juno @ Sep 15 2006, 06:34 PM) [snapback]1321042[/snapback]</div>

Phase -- did the pattern look screened on? Someone had mentioned that there are rub off moire patterns for use in cartooning, etc.[/b]

Possible I suppose, but the entire "backplane" of the ID looked like it was printed... black or dark blue ink on a white card. So the diamond-box RFID whatever thingie, is just a pattern of white lines.

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Voice in the Crowd what you don't understand is the significance the triskedekalion has in Phase Pistol's life.

He's a replicant.
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Actually a "triskedekalion" symbol woulld indicate that I have Triskaidekaphobia, or a fear of the number 13.



- k

 

[juno]

I have some of the paper -- at least the kind that old Ohio licenses were made out of. It's a printable plastic called teslin. It's very thin but tear resistant, waterproof, and it has superior lamination adhesion.

You caught my 13 joke. That has significance too, you know.

 

[Noeland]

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Wrong thread.. [/b]

hahahaha. :lol

Damn, I guess I got a little confused . . . .

 

[franz bolo]

Juno, what type of printer can you run teslin through? Dye Sublimation?

Can you silkscreen on it?

Can you post what the "rub off moire patterns for use in cartooning" stuff looks like?

Thanks

FB

 

[Noeland]

Juno is referring to a material called "zipatone" and it's not around much anymore. Art supply shops may still have it, or something comparable. It's not called "moire" that's actually a really bad thing in printing, you don't want moire.

There is also a material that is basically a big sticker that you can stick right to the page that has different patterns on them, after cutting on a light table with an exacto over your drawing you peel it and stick it on. I have lots of that stuff, but none of it ever came in that pattern. I have a sneaking suspicion the pattern is from sumthin' like that since they used rubylith or amber lith too.

I too tend to think they were after that computer board, circuit board kind of look with this ID, and I also think this was screen printed based on some of the things Tom Southwell said about the sign department and how they work.

If I couls see a high res image of the photo I could tell if it was 4 color process printed with screens. I've been working in the screenprinting biz for a long time.

Njc--------------------------

 

[SurferGeek]

<div class='quotetop'>(franz bolo @ Sep 15 2006, 06:13 PM) [snapback]1321028[/snapback]</div>

It was mentioned that the Diamond shape could be from an RFID. People call it that now anyway.

I found a couple designs and Mocked up what one might look like using a real RFID:

I think they might have photocopied and inverted one corner of the RFID and not used it directly.

I haven't found one with the correct pattern, but I'm sure one exists. If anyone has one, please post it.

Thanks

FB
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The pattern on the ID actually looks like those store security devices that are stuck on easily stolen items or even slipped into a book. I remember tearing them apart and the patterns were the same or very similar to the BR ID.

 

[juno]

No, I'm referring to a material called teslin -- but it's completely unrelated to the moire pattern, it's the "paper" IDs are printed on:
http://www.ppg.com/chm_teslin/whatsteslin/whatis.htm

I've got a pack of it sitting in my paper samples. I think mine is Laserjet, but they produce Inkjet teslin too.

 

[franz bolo]

<div class='quotetop'>(juno @ Sep 15 2006, 11:46 PM) [snapback]1321192[/snapback]</div>

No, I'm referring to a material called teslin -- but it's completely unrelated to the moire pattern, it's the "paper" IDs are printed on:
http://www.ppg.com/chm_teslin/whatsteslin/whatis.htm

I've got a pack of it sitting in my paper samples. I think mine is Laserjet, but they produce Inkjet teslin too.
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Wake up Juno :lol, he's talking about when you mentioned "there are rub off moire patterns for use in cartooning, etc." Not the ID paper.

FB

 

[franz bolo]

Here is my first attempt at the ID. I used Amberlith for the X and cut out my own photo I took. I went to Kinkos and they actually let you laminate stuff yourself. They also have the clip on badge plastic sleeves also.

Where the "B" is is messed up because I used a dab of glue and it made the red change color or something.

I don't have a good photo of Deckard, so I can't make his yet.

FB

 

[SurferGeek]

Thanks for posting those FB. Does the amberlith come in different thicknesses? The WorldCon ID has no visible gap between the laminate and the background anywhere on the amberlith X, but on yours you can clearly see the gap all the way around the amberlith.

 

[phase pistol]

Looking good FB. :thumbsup

And with the right kind of low-angle lighting, you can indeed tell that the "X" has thickness, on the Worldcon ID.

- k