Blade Runner Prop Replicas

[phase pistol]

That's not for certain but it's a good bet, judging from how it looked. The red looked too vivid and clear to have been printed, the edge was razor sharp.

That's one of MY opinions. :lol

- k

 

[nick daring]

It's also important to keep in mind that the Deckard ID is of a very different material- A thick plastic resin card of some sort that actually taper in thickness. That and it has metal accents on the back. No lamination like that seen on the cop ID.

Nick

 

[DrStranglove]

When I get back home I will post up some high res of the Phill ID. Any one that wants it can have BTW. Best offer gets it.

 

[AnsonJames]

So who's going to do the back of the I.D. then?
I think there should definately be a space in the numbering as suggested too - as in;
B 260~354

Notice how the word 'code' is misspelled - penal coed sounds like a porno film...

 

[juno]

Nobody believed me when I said I thought everything was white.

 

[TK570]

I've never piped up on this subject before but... that red "X" overlay is exactly that... an overlay of a product that was used in the graphics / printing world prior to everything going digital. It's "Amberlith". The product is used for cutting masks on paste up jobs. The material is an acetate sheet with an exceptionaly thin coating of an amber colored film. You would lay the acetate over some art and then using an X-acto knife, cut lightly to create a mask etc blocking out or revealing certain areas of the art below. Then you would peel off the amber film from the area leaving the rest on the acetate backer. This was then used to make an opaque plate through a photographic process.

It is highly likely that the end result you see in the badge is Amberlith film.

Just my two cents.

Lonnie
Tk570

 

[moffeaton]

Heya Lonnie - Amberlith is orange, but Rubylith is red - like the red X on the ID. Just being an art nerd on ya

I think it's Rubylith.
B)

http://www.ulano.com/mask/maskFilm.html

 

[TK570]

Jason,

Hey man nice to hear from you. Yeah I know... but based on the pics I have seen of the real deal I would have to go with the Amber. Ruby is much darker in color and far less translucent.

Of course that would be a "in person" judgement call since all the pics seem to get different lighting.

Lonnie
Tk570

 

[SFPROPS]

The photos of the real ID does look like the X was done in amberlith (though, when we used to use it at work, they used "rubylith" as a term interchangeably with either the reddish or orangish material). The X looks reddish orange to me and that color matches exactly with amberlith in my opinion, and was a material quite likely on hand at the time. We used it up until the mid 90's.

 

[Noeland]

I used to "cut ruby" in my first job in the T-shirt biz, we used a flat bed camera with hand cranks too. It did occure to me that it could be rubylith upon seeing that picture. I think you guys hit it right on the money.

 

[SFPROPS]

Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me..but I think I can see a ~ or a dash in the badge number in the screencap below. Look closely. There appears to be a row of numbers and a section in the middle that has less visual info at the top and bottom of the row.

[image]http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/VDeck-ID-compare_1.jpg[/image]

 

[franz bolo]

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Blade Runner ID. Thanks again Karl. I've got a special one for you.
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Awesome man.. Thanks..

 

[spinner44.com]

Regarding the red X. I have been in contact with Blade Runner production illustrator, Tom Southwell over the past few weeks. We discussed the Vid-Phon card and a little about the ID. He stated that the ID that he had created DID NOT have a red X. It was added later on after he sent it to Ridley. I didn't ask how it was appied but on would assume a transparent sheet film of some sort like Amberlith. He mentioned that the ID was laminated. I should also note that he stated there was no badge in the wallet unless it was added later. This is totally likely as the red X was added later.

I have more info on the Vid-Pon card is anyone wants to know. But I will save that for another time.

 

[spinner44.com]

<div class='quotetop'>(DrStranglove @ Aug 30 2006, 07:26 AM) [snapback]1309693[/snapback]</div>

When I get back home I will post up some high res of the Phill ID. Any one that wants it can have BTW. Best offer gets it.
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I dunno Doc, you could upset Ridley and become Persona non grata in the BR community like me. :lol

Effem if they can't take a joke.



White line is a great name for a song but I'm still not sure about that Juno.

All this talk about red X's and nobody notes the mispelling coed instead of code and next to penal. Hidden meaning - gasp. Although it would need to be penile.

 

[phase pistol]

AMBERLITH. YES. BRILLIANT.

Amberlith and zipatone and letraset... all 70's paper props have to have some of each. :rolleyes

Wow of course, it never occurred to me, but sure yes definately.

- k

<div class='quotetop'>(spinner44.com @ Aug 30 2006, 10:11 AM) [snapback]1309808[/snapback]</div>

All this talk about red X's and nobody notes the mispelling coed instead of code and next to penal.
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Yeah somebody should have probhibited that.

Who reads Japanese?

- k

<div class='quotetop'>(SFPROPS @ Aug 30 2006, 08:44 AM) [snapback]1309772[/snapback]</div>

Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me..but I think I can see a ~ or a dash in the badge number in the screencap below. Look closely
[image]http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/VDeck-ID-compare_1.jpg[/image]
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Exactly - you "think" you see... but keep in mind this is exactly the sort of situation where you can't tell what you're looking at... that sort of detail is way below the limit of resolution, and your mind has to creatively "fill in" for you if you know what you're looking for. So it doesn't really prove anything. But logically it seems likely.

- k

<div class='quotetop'>(TK570 @ Aug 30 2006, 07:16 AM) [snapback]1309739[/snapback]</div>

based on the pics I have seen of the real deal I would have to go with the Amber. Ruby is much darker in color and far less translucent.
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I used both back in the day, and I would agree with that statement. [EDIT: now I'm thinking that the "X" is ruby and the "8-diamond" is AMBER... see below]

It also makes sense because the "X" is not two overlapped strips as you might think - there's no diamond of doublle-opacity in the middle.

BTW it looks like Deckard is not the only "retired" cop back in service, if people's theories about that "X" are correct. :lol

-k

 

[moffeaton]

Yeah, you're probably right about it being Amberlith with the translucency shown

 

[Mike J.]

Spinner44, tell us about the Vidphone card. Tell us.

What did Mr. Southwell have to say about the apartment card? The money? Signage? License plates? Anything?


-Mike

 

[franz bolo]

I think they might be white lines also.

The photo makes the other white areas appear grey in spots. If you lighten these up in Photoshop, all those lines become white also.

Spinner44, can you ask the guy who made them what color he used?

FB

 

[spinner44.com]

I'm picking up some Amberlith today and having a go at it. If it works well I'll do a run of IDs that way along with the photo on top as well.

I'll have more on Southwell later.

 

[phase pistol]

I say the lines are white and not gray because, they didn't have laser or inkjet printers (or desktop computers for that matter) in those days, so the only way they would have had to MAKE gray lines would be with zipatone screen, but that's not what we see here.

Pretty much their base artwork would have been limited to black and white, all color elements would be applied on top of that.

Which brings me to another issue: the "8" in a diamond. There's no way to make it yellow/orange like that. So perhaps they used amberlith on the "8", and rubylith for the "X".


- k