Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

As much as they say Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns is only "inspiration" and not a guide for the next movie, I'm beginning to think that's a bunch of BS. Snyder meets with Miller, they used his line in the unveil. They want to cast an older Bats. My biggest fear is it will be so close to it that it will be they will even have Bats beating Cavill. Listen, I know the argument goes back and forth about who would win, but lets be honest, Batman is intelligent and can out think Superman I'm sure, however, I don't want to see Batman standing over Superman battered and bruised saying he beat him because if MOS didn't lose and get his ***** kicked by Zod and Faora, then I'm sorry, Batman would not beat him. He'd take one hell of a beating himself IMO.
 
As much as they say Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns is only "inspiration" and not a guide for the next movie, I'm beginning to think that's a bunch of BS. Snyder meets with Miller, they used his line in the unveil. They want to cast an older Bats. My biggest fear is it will be so close to it that it will be they will even have Bats beating Cavill. Listen, I know the argument goes back and forth about who would win, but lets be honest, Batman is intelligent and can out think Superman I'm sure, however, I don't want to see Batman standing over Superman battered and bruised saying he beat him because if MOS didn't lose and get his ***** kicked by Zod and Faora, then I'm sorry, Batman would not beat him. He'd take one hell of a beating himself IMO.

It would be like a semi-truck heading... nevermind.
 
I think they should just stick Chris Evans or Ryan Reynolds, in it, so they both can add yet another superhero to there resume. Or hell cast Robert Downy Jr., so he can take all that batman smack talk he did, and rub in peoples face even more, when he plays the best batman on screen ever. All jokes here of course, don't attack me please.

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If they're going for a mature, experienced Batman, DC has a guy who knows the role. This guy has the look, the moves, and the voice. He's said his agent is already on it, but fan support couldn't hurt.

If you haven't seen this, check it out.

City of Scars
 
City of Scars is fantastic. There are quite a few batman fam films that are worth checking out
 
If they're going for a mature, experienced Batman, DC has a guy who knows the role. This guy has the look, the moves, and the voice. He's said his agent is already on it, but fan support couldn't hurt.

If you haven't seen this, check it out.

City of Scars

Pretty neat but Batman has always been cast with a known actor - funny considering Superman is always an unknown and Bats isn't - and Batman's face is partially obscured. The guy in this fanfilm probably wouldn't get past the cattle call.

One complaint I do have about seemingly all fanfilms - stop using people with pony tails!! Especially when casting doctors ot people with authority.
 
I'd love to see Steve Carrell take on the role. I think he'd do a pretty good job ;)
 
If older and more mature is what they are after I say cast, Tommy Lee Jones. LOL!

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Well, the name with fame could backfire - like Kilmer and Clooney, especially Clooney - you saw him on screen and not Batman, besides the movie was a turd. Clark Bartram from Batman Dead End was a pretty good Batman. Maybe they should go with an unknown stage actor to play Bats. When I see Batman on screen I want to have Batman not an actor playing Batman.
Pretty neat but Batman has always been cast with a known actor - funny considering Superman is always an unknown and Bats isn't - and Batman's face is partially obscured. The guy in this fanfilm probably wouldn't get past the cattle call.

One complaint I do have about seemingly all fanfilms - stop using people with pony tails!! Especially when casting doctors ot people with authority.
 
I'd love to see Steve Carrell take on the role. I think he'd do a pretty good job ;)

I could go for that -- but we're talking a totally different movie, unless Carrell played it like he did in "Searching for a Friend at the End of the World". He was very moody in that movie and played the whole thing as an observer watching the world go to hell. But I'm bias, Carrell is one of my favorite actors.
 
Pretty neat but Batman has always been cast with a known actor - funny considering Superman is always an unknown and Bats isn't - and Batman's face is partially obscured. The guy in this fanfilm probably wouldn't get past the cattle call.

That might be the case for a random guy in a batsuit, but Porter regularly does appearances for DC as Batman--and he has big screen experience.

Kevin Porter - IMDb

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kevin-Porter-Batman/283837315085071

I think WB/DC could do a lot worse. A lot.
 
Kevin Porter on "the voice" ...

The Voice

One of the most common questions that I get is what inspires me in regards to my version of what Batman sounds like. It’s an interesting question as I cant deny certain influences. I loved Keaton and of course Conroy was the master. However, the voice is as much a part of the persona of Batman as his cowl.. Even more so. There is a strength and pain that resonates in the voice. Its so much more than just making a growling voice. The voice is conflicted by the man vs. the mission. By the animal that he must sometimes become and the refined upbringing that he has to sometimes project. It’s clean and articulate. But dirty and abrasive. The grammar is perfect but the annunciation boarders on the verge of breaking. There is duality that come across in the voice and the eyes.

It’s very difficult to do the voice outside of context. You do have to get into character. As a professional we all have to perform on command and I am no different, however, the best.. most resonating moments come when all is lost in the character and moment. Batman going toe to toe with the Joker when all is on the line. You cant help but let the rage percolate and boil to the surface.


My speaking voice is FAR different than that of Batman’s. People are very surprised when they speak to me for the first time. I view this as a complement. I'm asked to do the voice often out of character and its very strange. Even when we are doing ADR or vocal looping in the studio for Bat In The Sun its sometimes tough to get into character. Well, Maybe its because I just have a blast with those guys and its hard to be so grim when laughing.

If you haven’t seen the attached video, please do so. It is a greatest hits collection of us in the studio looping some Batman lines. You will hear how I have to turn the voice off and on and how difficult it is, especially when the guys are cracking me up. Its hard to be dark and brooding as your director is making faces through the sound booth.

Also, bonus points to anyone who knows the ending reference “Chicken Feet”. It was used during a fight scene while shooting Seeds of Arhkam!

Voice Over Out Takes!

Batman Voice Over Outtakes - YouTube

And always remember: POONIGANT! :lol:
 
That might be the case for a random guy in a batsuit, but Porter regularly does appearances for DC as Batman--and he has big screen experience.

Kevin Porter - IMDb

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kevin-Porter-Batman/283837315085071

I think WB/DC could do a lot worse. A lot.

It takes more than that to be trusted to carry a film. You're talking about 150m + production resting on the back of a guy who does appearances. He was good in that fanfilm - no argument, but there's no way the studio would feel comfortable casting him -- I'm betting Batman will be a Brit, as I wrote earlier -- Nolan likes to cast from his neighborhood.
 
It takes more than that to be trusted to carry a film. You're talking about 150m + production resting on the back of a guy who does appearances. He was good in that fanfilm - no argument, but there's no way the studio would feel comfortable casting him -- I'm betting Batman will be a Brit, as I wrote earlier -- Nolan likes to cast from his neighborhood.
You may be right, but I hope not.

Regardless of the money made from Nolan's Bat-films, I think casting Bale was a mistake. In my opinion, he just wasn't a good Batman.

The lispy, mouth-breathing, dog-barking voice just sucked, in my opinion. If you're casting Batman, you have to cast Batman. Bale was an ok Bruce Wayne, but I don't think he conveyed the inner turmoil that created the Bat. He wasn't believable to me. Keaton was great, but didn't have the physique to pull it off, hence the muscle suit. Kilmer could have been good. Clooney looked good in the suit and was an acceptable Bruce Wayne, but that movie was just bad. It's hard to judge him from that standpoint.

Batman is a big guy, a badass. He's spent his life training and educating himself. He has an above aveage intellect, but isn't necessarily a genius. He wants to kill the bad guys, but he knows that if he does then he becomes one of them. He doesn't need the armor, but he has it if he thinks it's necessary. What I see in a Batman is the little boy who is trying his best to make sure what happened to him doesn't happen to anyone else.

That's the key.

His anger is boiling just below the surface, but he never allows himself the luxury of fully letting go.

That's what I see with Kevin Porter. He understands what the character is all about, and conveys that in the voice.

Then there's the costuming. In the Bale movies it was just bad, in my opinion. Bale's face looked squished in that cowl. The cowl was bad. The cape looked like velvet. It looked like an afterthought, and not a part of the cowl. The rubber suit in the first one and the armor in the second and third ones just weren't believable to me.

Batman is a badass. If he needs armor to protect him from his opponents, it makes him look weak.

In my opinion.

After all this, I'd like it to be known that I think Kevin Porter's Batman is closer to the comics than anything I've ever seen. Just look at the guy's face.

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Listen to the voice.


And just for emphasis, look at this Alex Ross cover art proposal. It's as if he had Kevin Porter modeling for it:

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Then there's the costuming. In the Bale movies it was just bad, in my opinion. Bale's face looked squished in that cowl. The cowl was bad. The cape looked like velvet. It looked like an afterthought, and not a part of the cowl. The rubber suit in the first one and the armor in the second and third ones just weren't believable to me.

Batman is a badass. If he needs armor to protect him from his opponents, it makes him look weak.

In my opinion.

He needs armor to protect himself because he's human, not because he's weak. When you're going up against thugs with guns and knives, a skin-tight leotard ain't gonna cut it. Personally, i think the pieced armor is more believable than the rubber suit, because it's more practical and allows for more freedom of movement, and especially the leotard because of the aforementioned knives and bullets which would kill him on his first day.

But that's just my opinion.
 
I agree with that statement 100%, in this more "realistic" approach all the movies are taking, there is no way a man, even as well trained as batman, is going to outrun bullets, knifes and other blunt objects 100% of the time, especially when they're coming from multiple attackers. Now he can wear spandex, take a nasty hit and take some time to heal while his city is not protected, or he can wear some protective gear and deflects those nasty hits, or at least reduce the damage, and keep protecting his city.
Now I understand why people would like to see an outfit closer to the comics, which we haven't seen in a while, so I believe the best solution would be something like the arkham games. It is somewhat armoured, but it's discreet, and has a classic look.
 
I agree with that statement 100%, in this more "realistic" approach all the movies are taking, there is no way a man, even as well trained as batman, is going to outrun bullets, knifes and other blunt objects 100% of the time, especially when they're coming from multiple attackers. Now he can wear spandex, take a nasty hit and take some time to heal while his city is not protected, or he can wear some protective gear and deflects those nasty hits, or at least reduce the damage, and keep protecting his city.
Now I understand why people would like to see an outfit closer to the comics, which we haven't seen in a while, so I believe the best solution would be something like the arkham games. It is somewhat armoured, but it's discreet, and has a classic look.
Sigh... More realistic? Man of Steel was no more realistic than the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon my nephew was watching earlier.

Darker does not equal "more realistic."
 
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