Backdated Constellation Class...

Eric Ardros

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In keeping with Dave's (USSCassiopeia) "TOS-era Miranda" thread, here is a little something he and I have plans in mind to also scratch-build; a TOS-era Constellation Class starship, using the PL 1:1000 1701 kit, and wanted to collaborate with me on that project.

Well, in the course of just one or two days' time (this was back in April '06 when we started on this), I eagerly got to work and managed to draft these three schematics of what will become our physical model of said non-cannon ship:

TOS-era Constellation Class Starship -- Profile View

TOS-era Constellation Class Starship -- Dorsal View

TOS-era Constellation Class Starship -- Ventral View

Most everything you see in the pics -- aside from the primary hull, which clearly will need to be scratch-built out of styrene (we're thinking either .060 or .080 thick, to ensure the build is a sturdy one) -- are parts scavenged from the PL TOS Enterprise kit, so there will be very little in other materials that will need to be added to our builds.

We based this non-cannon design pretty much on the TMP-era screen version, keeping all the major details in the same place (ie. impulse engines at rear between warp nacelles).

We've been thinking about just what other greeblie details to add to the hull, but thought that since most other TOS-era ships were devoid of any extraneous hull detailing/greeblies, to do so with this build may be too much.

Also, in keeping with the TOS Enterprise and most other vessels of that era, instead of having 3+ shuttle bays like on the TMP-era version, we're thinking we may stick with just one at the front. Then that detail can be consistent between other TOS-era starships and our scratch-build.

Oh, and rather than having that "mirror image" effect going on with the bridge on top and the fake bridge on the underside, we drafted this design with the standard primary hull underside, with planetary sensor array. So, in that respect, it'll also be more similar to other ships of this era (and also makes it more economical, as we won't need to "borrow" much from more than one of the base kits).

Based on the sketches we've managed to do, once complete our Constellation Class scratch-build will measure almost 12 inches in length, about 3/4 of an inch longer than PL's standard TOS Enterprise. As well, the width of our build(s) will be 6 3/4 inches (almost 2 inches wider than PL's 1701), and 3 1/2 inches in height (half an inch taller than PL's kit). All in all, this scratch-build should make for a rather imposing piece next to the Enterprise.

At first, I was planning on simply collaborating on the build Dave himself planned on doing, but went ahead and bought myself another PL 1701 kit so we can do two builds simultaneously, and both show the progress we're making on our builds. This should prove to be a really fun, joint Canadian/American project for us... :D

After going back to this I realized I'd already done some work on this way back when (guess I forgotten I had, lol) and taken some pics at the time too, I just hadn't posted them here yet. So, this is what I'd managed to come up with so far:

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The first two pics show the group work I've done on this scratch-build, whereas the next five pics show each sub-assembly separately:

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As can be seen in the above pics, I'd already cut out the dorsal and ventral portions of the primary hull. I've already adhered the top saucer and had begun work on puttying the seam/gap between it and the underlying stryene panel (I want this piece to have a nice, solid museum-display quality look to it).

For the underside portion of the primary hull, after cutting out the main panel I then proceeded to cut out the middle section and make a slightly recessed area, so that the bottom portion of the saucer doesn't jut out too much, just as demonstrated in the ventral schematic I drafted. Like with the dorsal portion of the hull, I will also be puttying the seam/gap between the two parts so that it appears as one piece.

I'd also already made quick work of the alternate bridge dome and modified it to fit on the underside on the ventral portion of the hull, and as you can see it's already been installed. Pretty much the only thing needing to be done to that piece is attach the sensor array.

As for the slit at the rear of the underside portion of the saucer, to fill that in I simply cut two small lengths of (I believe) .060 styrene and jammed them in there. Quite a snug fit, and once sanded smooth one won't even be able to tell there was a connection point there.

It may not be clearly noticeable in the first two pics, but the nacelles I've decided to use are the Production-style nacelles, with the bulb on the back end. I decided to do that for two reasons: 1) to keep it in line with the TOS Enterprise and other ships from this era, and 2) to keep it more in line with the style Dave used on his backdated Miranda build (I figure he'll probably use the same style nacelles on his own build of this, lol).

So, there you have it. All of the work shown here is what progress I'd made last year, so no further work has been done on it as yet; I actually need to head out to the local hobby shop here and get more styrene (which I'm running low on) and fast-acting glue. Still, considering I haven't touched on this project in quite a few months, it's come along rather well at this point.

You better hurry up and get started on yours soon, Dave... I'm already well ahead of you, buddy... :p lol

EDIT: Fixed broken links.
 
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Wow... after a five-year hiatus, I've finally got an update :p lol

After the aforementioned half decade since I last visited this barely begun build, I took it out of mothball and decided to work on it again.

Good thing this was just a personal project, and had no deadline :rolleyes:

Anyway I decided that, aside from making one for myself, I would also do one up for a friend of mine who's birthday is coming up next month.

Given the immediacy of that build, I'll be working on his first, then get to doing my own. Here are a few pics of the new progress I've made:

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As can be seen, I managed to assemble the internal skeletal structure for the main hull, and already put some ribbed styrene in place at the front for the shuttlebay.

Once I've got the port/starboard navigational beacons inserted in the top part of the saucer, I'll then permanently attach it and start applying sheet styrene to the sides of the hull to close it in.

Given the overall simplicity of the design, I figure once I've completed the main hull the rest (ie. nacelle support pylons, main impulse drive) should be done rather quickly.

The plan is to get a set of custom decals done up for his, using his last name as the ship's name, and year of birth as its registry number. Can't get more personal than that, now can it? :lol
 
Here's a smidge of an update:

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Now that the entire internal skeletal structure is in place, and after figuring out how to do one trouble spot I finally was able to glue the top and bottom parts of the main hull together.

I'm letting the glue dry well for the moment, but later today plan on starting applying the styrene sides of the hull. As I've said before, once that part of its done, the smaller parts should be pretty quick and easy to do.

At the same time, I'm working on fabricating the same top and bottom hull parts for my own build, to come after.
 
And now another update before I finally head off to bed (it's been a long night, lol):

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In a relatively short period of time, I've managed to apply the styrene sides of the main hull, putty and sand it a couple of times and gotten it to a good stage I'd say.

Since I've now got the main hull mostly together, aside from further puttying/sanding/smoothing everything over, I also was able to assemble the main deflector array on the underside of the hull.

The bottom part of the saucer isn't firmly in place yet, just sort of sitting loose in its recessed opening. I just wanted to show a few pics of what it will look like with the full assembly.

Looking pretty sweet already, if I do say so myself :)
 
Yeah, I thought so :lol And thanks! I'm pretty sure my friend will get a kick out of this when he sees it. Now I can't wait to get my own build of this done up, lol.
 
After a little more than months since the last update, I've got some more progress to share:

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As weekends for the last few months were busy with wedding preparations I was short on spare time to work on this, but now that we're done with the wedding I can actuallt get back to this.

It's also kind of a mixed blessing that my friend and I haven't been able to schedule anytime to get together, as I'm really hoping to have this finished for him next time we see one another. Granted, it's been a few months since his birthday, but I think the wait will have been worth it, lol. I just know he's going to love it when he sees it.

Anyway, over the course of this long Thanksgiving weekend I was able to attach the nacelle pylons to the main hull (first three pics), through a combination of crazy glue and thin brass rods extending through the top and bottom of the rear jut-out, running through both pylons. I wanted to make sure it would be a sturdy build, without risk of the glue losing its adhesiveness and the nacelles just falling off at some point.

I also finally put together the cross beam supports for the nacelles (fourth pic), which were originally being made of 1/8" styrene but I then thickened on each side with 1/16" styrene to better match the thickness of the pylons below. I included tabs to insert into the nacelles, whose slots had to be enlarged to accommodate the tabs (fifth and sixth pics). They fit pretty well, now.

The final pic shows the culmination of the added work I've put into the build by now. The top cross beam has been glued in place, as will the bottom cross beam once I've rounded the edges a bit. Added most of a new coat of primer after I took the last pic, and it's starting to look the part, imho. Still have some surface work to clean up, but if I'm able to keep at it like this I should be done soon B)
 
I like the work. The original side, top and ventral views don't seem to be loading for me though. Have the links changed? I can't wait to see this finished as I've always been a fan of this type of ship since it is Federation, yet so "un-Enterprise" like. It is a real grunt of a starship, not a pretty thing.

Funny enough I've been toying with a few sketches of my own Constellation inspired TOS design, but I'll be going for a two engined configuration with a different pylon mounting, a slight hull bloat (with bigger outer diameter, sort of USS Kelvin inspired) and an instrumented pod on bottom instead of ventral engines (with a second smaller pod between the two top engines). My inspiration is the Challenger class USS Marco Polo from one of the TNG annual comics published by DC back in the 1990s. All they did in the comic was remove the bottom engines from a Constellation and stick on the pod. But I like the shape of the pod, so I am going to use it.

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Marco_Polo_(NCC-7219)

Once I get everything fleshed out to my satisfaction, I'm building it by kitbashing parts from two 18" AMT Enterprise kits and some resin parts acquired from various sources. When done it won't look quite like yours, but it will certainly have a family resemblance.

BTW, are you going to call yours the USS Constellation, NCC-1017-A? Or do you have a different name and number in mind?
 
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Thanks, JM! Like you, I've always been a fan of this design, ever since I first saw it early on in TNG. As there have been so many others who have done their own unique scratch-builds using the PL 1/1000 TOS E kits, I figured I might as well do my own. This is what I came up with.

As for the first three links showing the original schematics I drew up, I'll probably have to fix those links as they are old. Thanks for letting me know.

And no, I decided not to name it the U.S.S. Constellation. Since this first build is meant as a gift for a friend, I went and got a set of basic decals custom-made so that the ship will bear his last name and the registry number will be his year of birth. I think he'll get a kick out of that, lol.
 
Alright, I think it's about time I posted an update here :p lol

I would've posted before now, but hadn't really had the time due to being recently married (okay, it was late September, but still), work being very demanding and also having nursed myself through the worst flu I've ever had (had it for a solid two weeks before it finally went away).

I have by now finished the model (just applied the decals earlier today, still need to finish the display base), but since I missed at least one or two updates prior to completion, I'll be posting newer WiP pics along with the completed ones:

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Once I got both nacelle cross beam supports in place, I decided to paint the internal components of the bussard ramscoops and insert them into the nacelles, then seal the nacelles and glue them to the supports. To prevent any primer or paint getting on them before the outer domes were installed, I carefully covered them up with blue painter's tape.

The underside of the saucer took a lot of putty to seal up where I inserted the stock kit part. Also, the sides of the scratch-built primary hull needed some more too, to help cover up any remaining imperfections as well as some cracks that began to form between the individual sections I'd glued in place (a result of too much sanding, I think).

It was at that point though, once I'd gotten through a couple more sanding sessions, that it was really starting to look the part, and I was able to get a clearer idea of just how it would look.

Then came the fun part of painting and detailing, both of which I was able to work on sporadically during the holidays, when I wasn't too sick to be at my workbench. As mentioned at the beginning of this post, this weekend finally allowed for the application of all the decals, which I was a little unsure about as it's easily been fifteen years since I've worked with any, lol.

Luckily it worked out well, and the end result, I have to say, is very much to my liking:

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I decided to do with the Second Pilot decals for the top of the saucer, as I found without the extra detail the top of the model looked very bland with all that grey and nothing to break it up. Now it's far more eye-catching imho, and I know my friend will like it all the more because of the added detail.

As for the windows on the side of the new primary hull, that was pretty much an afterthought as all throughout the build process it hadn't dawned on me that I should have some windows there, lol.

The challenge I faced with that was, whereas the decals on both the top and bottom of the saucer were pre-determined according to the placement instructions included with the stock kit, I had no such guideline for the window layout on the sides of the hull, which I simply had to wing it and hope they'd come out looking okay.

I pretty much took all of the different window decals available on the sheet, both production and pilot, and then figured out what configuration would look best. I think I succeeded fairly well in that respect :)

I'm so very pleased with how it came out looking. Now I'm off to work on the display base, then she'll be 100% done.
 
Yeah, tell me about it :rolleyes Better late than never though, as they say. Who knows how long the one I build for myself will take, lol.

Good thing is, what with this build (with the exception of the display base) now done, I can finally go on to other projects that have been demanding my attention.

For one, an in-scale shuttlebay for someone's half-scale studio model kit of the TOS Enterprise, which I'm really looking forward to tackling now ;)
 
Here, for everyone's viewing pleasure is the last set of WiP pics, showing the completed model with the now-completed display base:

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For the base, I repurposed the stock one that came with the kit, and added a 1/4" thick layer of PVC foamboard to the bottom so that it could properly support the model's size, shape and weight.

I then Xacto knifed and sanded the PVC to shape, puttied and smoothed over the seam between the original base and PVC, primered it and coloured it to match the TOS-era command insignia. Looks pretty good, imho.

My friend and I were finally able to work it out so that we saw each other last weekend, and exchanged our belated Christmas gifts.

Needless to say, he was floored at what I'd done up for him, and he got a real kick out of seeing that I'd christened the ship with his last name and year of birth as its registry number, lol.

The whole time we were hanging out, he kept on talking about it, so I think I did good with that gift of choice B)
 
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