Back to the Future II 2015 Jacket Build NEW VIDEO JACKET pg 27!!!

[Gary Weaver II]

Re: Back to the Future II 2015 Jacket Build

Pockets (4 & 5)? Or can the pockets be cut from the two front panels?

I really think you can do one full jacket from a 2x4 panel, but I just want to be sure. It would certainly make things easier on my end.

-Gary

 

[MitasTouch]

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And we have to find out the correct or similar material for the mats. Latex or silicone clearly wasn't used, but it looks like it could be a flexible plastic resin. Plus the diamond shapes on the panels have small, rounded points

 

[Spyhunter2k]

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That does look much closer. I wonder how many different companies manufacture these types of diffusers, and if all of these diffusers are slightly different vs just repackaging/relabeling only a few variations of this design...

One thing I did notice once you did the wash was that the solvent seemed to dull the red urethane a bit. This isn't necessarily a bad thing—the red material on the real jackets didn't look too glossy—it's just an observation.

Also, what is the best black paint to use as a wash? I would think that the paint needs to have some inherent flexibility, would means that 2K urethane acrylics could be the way to go, though a little advanced for the average hobbiest. These paints cure tough, and are flexible. Or are there other paints that are simpler to acquire and apply that are almost as good?

Once the wash is put on, should the final result have some type of protective clear coating applied, or is the urethane and final black paint type selected expected to be durable enough to withstand reasonable wear?

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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Mitas - "mats" what part are you talking about? If you look at my new diffusers they appear to have a spot of some sort in the center. Of course I'll know more after I do the test tonight/tomorrow.

Spyhunter - I'd just have to test it and find out. I'm using just a thin coat of spray paint right now and I think it will work just fine. It's not like it couldn't be reapplied if needed later. And you made a good observation. The Acetone wash to take off the black did take a bit of the gloss off the red rubber - it did help the look.

 

[Contec]

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Mitas - "mats" what part are you talking about? If you look at my new diffusers they appear to have a spot of some sort in the center. Of course I'll know more after I do the test tonight/tomorrow.

Spyhunter - I'd just have to test it and find out. I'm using just a thin coat of spray paint right now and I think it will work just fine. It's not like it couldn't be reapplied if needed later. And you made a good observation. The Acetone wash to take off the black did take a bit of the gloss off the red rubber - it did help the look.

You can do a simple test to see how the panel bumps looks.
Just press a piece of clay onto the panel and then pull away : Instant bumps:thumbsup

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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I'm hard headed by nature, that's why I'm wanting to do the test panel

 

[Contec]

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I'm hard headed by nature, that's why I'm wanting to do the test panel

we want instant results.......hurrrryyyyyyyy :lol

 

[MrFusion]

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Yeah boi, crack out the blue tack and slap it on there lol

 

[Spyhunter2k]

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Gary, did you use some sort of release agent before pouring the urethane onto the acrylic sheet? If so, what was it?

 

[Jedifyfe]

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THe front panels of my jacket are about 11-11 1/2 inches wide. The rear panels are about the same for a total of 4 panels but again the original jacket only used 3 panels and then a little more for the pockets.

 

[Contec]

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It's a little hard to believe that we finally is going to be able to make both the shoe's and the jacket from bttf 2

 

[MitasTouch]

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Mitas - "mats" what part are you talking about? If you look at my new diffusers they appear to have a spot of some sort in the center. Of course I'll know more after I do the test tonight/tomorrow.

Spyhunter - I'd just have to test it and find out. I'm using just a thin coat of spray paint right now and I think it will work just fine. It's not like it couldn't be reapplied if needed later. And you made a good observation. The Acetone wash to take off the black did take a bit of the gloss off the red rubber - it did help the look.

What I meant by mats was the rubber or resin that has been pulled off of the light panel.

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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It is a tinted flexible urethane rubber. Peels right out of the diffuser panel without a mold release.

Gonna try using a lighter mesh for a backing on this next test and less rubber for the second coat. I want to see just how thin and light I can make a sheet of this stuff

 

[Spyhunter2k]

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Thanks Gary. I know that you used the Shore 60 because that's what you already had, but I'm wondering what you and others think is the ideal hardness for this material...? 30? 40?

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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I think 60 is pretty good. It's flexible, but not flimsy. I'd worry about a 30 or 40 being too easy to tear up.

I'm trying a thinner test this time to help with the flexibility a bit more. We'll see how that goes.

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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I really hope you guys aren't all waiting on me or something. If you were, well here you go

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Test #2 (and #2.5) were a success. I went for a TAD more orange this time around knowing that the wash will darken it up just a tad. The new diffuser panel is MUCH better and will be good for a final.

We took video of most of the process and once I get the final wash on tonight I'll try to edit some of that together.

Key changes from my earlier instructions. I used 400 grams each of A and B to do 1 full panel and the smaller pocket swatch - that should be enough for one jacket. I used too much accelerant this time around. It was starting to gel up by the time I got to the smaller swatch.

I used Nylon tulle this time around instead of cotton fabric to cut down on the weight. It worked, but I should have put the tool on the red base coat a little earlier before it completely set up. That way it would have stayed down a bit easier when I poured and leveled out the black.

I'll be sure to post more pictures tonight after the wash is done.

-Gary

 

[MrFusion]

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I can almost feel the cuffs brushing past my wrists as I do 88Mph. Nice work.

 

[cavx]

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It's a little hard to believe that we finally is going to be able to make both the shoe's and the jacket from bttf 2

Sorry to go slightly OT and talk about the shoes.

This is where my scratch build is at now. The patterns I made work, but they do need a little refinement in some places like on the sole area. If anyone who knows anything at all about making shoes wants to assist me with this, it would be awesome. Please PM me.

Back to the Jacket. About the urethane and not requiring a release agent. I did use one when I did my clear soles. The shore hardness of the cold cast clear elastomer I used was OC80A. How different is elastomer to urethane?

 

[Droidboy]

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Gary....did you find a different diffuser? And I guess the big question is going to be offering sheets of this material to the masses?

 

[Gary Weaver II]

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Yeah, got a different diffuser panel yesterday that did the trick.

As for making more of these... I guess I could. I'd like to get it set up to do more than one at a time though. They take a good 24 hours to do properly. I hav eno idea what they are worth.

Now that I have the body panels licked - time to start thinking about those shoulder and elbow bellows. Speaking of bellows, this is me thinking out loud for a possible mold master.

McMaster-Carr

-Gary