Anton Class (pre-Reliant) Starship

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While attempting to clean out my studio...I ran across an old project I started....and aborted out of frustration.

Images are expanded to scale to match AMT/Ertl Enterprise. The reason I stopped the project was frustration... The drawings don't match, pylon placement is too wide to fit (compare front view to top view) and lack of detail how all those angles work out on the underside.

Knowing that I couldn't count 100% on provided Trek Manual schematics, I developed the philosophy.... what did the Reliant do. While I was happy with the results I achieved on the upper section...modification being I ran the upper rear deck horizontal instead of angled down...

 

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When it comes to my attempt at the underside....it didn't really work. While I liked the square major drop down section... it just created problems with how it affected the angles on the side and in the rear.

 

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Note how rear angles look awkward... there's no way to cover the gap on the two slightly angled side portions of the top section (think landing bay one and two from Reliant).....and in the side view provided, there's not even an indication they exist. In addition, the initial attempt was based more on the schematic dimensions....and not on what works real world. The length of the underside details extends beyond the real world tangent/cord relationship.....meaning the part I made would have to be rounded at the front edge where it meets the saucer or it would just stick out. Either way...what I made just didn't work for me.

 

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Reworked base section is much shorter than original.... but fits geometrically.

 

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I'd like to have some input....or suggestions... on other ways to resolve this. Maybe there's something I haven't thought of. Additionally, another issues is somehow the nacelles got separated from the kit parts. I lucked out that a PVC pipe matched (within microns) the widest portion I needed. To tamper it down....break out the red neck lathe!

I was able to center bolts inside the pipe by using thermoplastic pellets....cool little beads you submerge in hot water...when they turn clear, you can mold them to TBE shape you want. Too bad that, when they harden, you really can't want or machine them. They do hold the final shape well and secured the bolt as CENTER as as could tabletop get it. Bonus....when you're done...just melt in boiling water again...and reclaim the plastic to use later. Pretty cool stuff!

 

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Apologize for the posting method. The tools here are not intuitive to me. I do what I can.

 

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No problem.

People have been making variants of Anton—Klingons in SNW, FASA fans themselves:

https://www.ststcsolda.space/federation/anton/anton.html

Federation - pre-TOS Anton class cruiser (FSC) by DigitalExplorations on DeviantArt

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Anton class

The Anton-class light cruiser was a type of United Federation of Planets starship on active duty in the 23rd century. There were three iterations of the Antons: Mark I (2247), Mark II (2256), and Mark IV (2270). (FASA RPG: Federation Ship Recognition Manual; Star Trek Starship Tactical Combat...

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Anton-class

The Anton-class was a class X cruiser, in service to Starfleet from the mid 23rd century and into the 24th century. The Anton-class was intended to supplement the Constitution-class heavy cruisers. However they were found to be lacking in certain key respects, most notably they were incapable of...

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[TMP] "Anton class Cruiser - Coming soon from Studio Bergstrom!" Topic

I actually like your version the best—

 

[Couchdivot]

Appreciate the validation. TBH, I originally started this project around the turn of this century (strange to use that phrase about events just 20+ years old). Definitely pre-SNW influences. I couldn't remember exactly where I got the source drawings.... thanks for reminding me they came from the FASA publication. I'm trying to stay true to that form....but when things don't work, ya just have to make some decisions. Currently, I'm debating where to locate the shuttle bays.

If I stick with the square bottom concept, that flat back panel would work. I'd loose the profile from FASA drawings but the shuttle bay would be right between the nacelle pylons...true to TOS inspiration.

Locating the bays in a Reliant-inspired location, you have the angles from the profile intact....it just seems awkward from a practical/functional standpoint.

Please, feel free to share your thoughts.

 

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Speaking of pylons...I don't understand why this TOS-era starship was designed with refit-influenced pylons (swept back and tapered) instead of the straight style. Another topic to ponder....

 

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Toying around with the pylon idea....I mapped out both mounting points...Enterprise mounts are more forward.

In my way of thinking....lets assume both ships use the same warp nacelles....wouldn't it be logical that the mounting point is the same....structurally reinforced there during construction?

The Reliant spaces the engines about as wide as the saucer section...the Anton class pushes them out a little further.

Personally, I think I I like the tighter version.... just depends how true to the FASA concept I want to stick..

 

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Looking about...even the Akira Class has the nacelles closer to the hull than the FASA Anton version. I can't find any film reference where the nacelles are placed that far out. (pre 2002....the last of what I consider canon...honestly, I consider most of the other spin-offs as mere entertainment.... created just to sell a story and line some pockets with green...ed)

 

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Toying around with the pylon idea....I mapped out both mounting points...Enterprise mounts are more forward.
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In my way of thinking....lets assume both ships use the same warp nacelles....wouldn't it be logical that the mounting point is the same....structurally reinforced there during construction?

The Reliant spaces the engines about as wide as the saucer section...the Anton class pushes them out a little further.View attachment 1926637

 

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Further Anton mock ups.