ANOVOS issues (ANOVOS ONLY discussion)

[Jagjaguwar]

It seems to me that a lot of the talk about the OT Anovos suit being “wildly inaccurate” or having “wrong parts and details” is based off of an incorrect premise. That being, that the primary goal in making the suits was accuracy above all else. While in fact there was a good bit of explanation as far as I can remember about the suits, and indeed most other Anovos products, being a sort of compromise of the various aspects including accuracy, wearability (different body types), durability, and ease of construction.

In my view if the Anovos kit seems way wrong to you, it’s worth asking: was it ever intended for me in the first place?

 

[vader45]

This thread is so far derailed! LOL.

I will say it's pointless to discuss the durability of the TK kit since it made of sheet plastic. It's all in how it's handled and the environment it's stored in. It's thin plastic sheets heated to shape, don't expect them to be as strong as fiberglass or steel. They just behave randomly to. I can pull up threads where people complained about their RS helmets cracking and they were just on display. I accidentally knocked over my TK helmet I go get off eBay and the crown is cracked. Some people have cracked Anovos armor while others vigorously trooped in them with no issues and the same can be said for higher end kits. Vac plastic is not reliable and nor ment for quality.

And as far as the accuracy of the kit goes, some have stated they reached centurion levels with it so it can't be that far off. I seen a kit in person, while they are not bumpy, warty or held together by tape, it looked really good to me and not that far off. But I'm referring to the armor, the helmet has a few more glaring issues.

 

[USS Endeav]

The all black non-canon kit Anovos put out a while back. what would be involved in making it 501st approved?
I have one and while it's still boxed, I will eventually get around to it.

 

[MacBeath]

Anyway, I think you guys need to relax and cool off the "no true Scotsman" crap. This whole thread is hysteria and made-up nonsense.

You got a problem with true Scotsmen, pal...?

 

[Krieger]

This thread did take a turn over the last few days. Was starting to think this was going into Needful Things territory. And to quote another horror novel, 'give me what I want, and I will go away....' At this point all I want is what I paid for.

 

[Mara Jade's Father]

The sad thing is that of all the threads I am following on this board, this is the one that is getting the most traffic. It does nothing positive for our community. If Dana and Jose wanted to leave their mark on the Prop Replica Community... Congratulations! You left your mark, and it's a crater.

 

[mluder]

Pop quiz... Who makes this TK suit?
I should mention this is not me or my suit but it does belong to a friend.

Cheers
Steve

 

[zeroskillz]

Rubies!

 

[GF]

Yep its your $ when I first saw Star Wars I always wanted a Stormtrooper costume that looked exactly what I saw on screen its unfortunate Anovos wasn't able to deliver, thankfully we have very accurate fan made costumes!

Pop quiz... Who makes this TK suit?
I should mention this is not me or my suit but it does belong to a friend.
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Cheers
Steve

Anovos 100% I can spot that helmet a mile away, with its odd looking wide frown, weird looking eye ridges, ears ect.. just too many things wrong!

This thread is so far derailed! LOL.

I will say it's pointless to discuss the durability of the TK kit since it made of sheet plastic. It's all in how it's handled and the environment it's stored in. It's thin plastic sheets heated to shape, don't expect them to be as strong as fiberglass or steel. They just behave randomly to. I can pull up threads where people complained about their RS helmets cracking and they were just on display. I accidentally knocked over my TK helmet I go get off eBay and the crown is cracked. Some people have cracked Anovos armor while others vigorously trooped in them with no issues and the same can be said for higher end kits. Vac plastic is not reliable and nor ment for quality.

And as far as the accuracy of the kit goes, some have stated they reached centurion levels with it so it can't be that far off. I seen a kit in person, while they are not bumpy, warty or held together by tape, it looked really good to me and not that far off. But I'm referring to the armor, the helmet has a few more glaring issues.

Many people have reached centurion with SDS which IMHO is even worst than the Anovos, with some mods most suits can be centurion approved, I'm not saying Anovos is not centurion approvable it just that it doesnt hold a candle next to many other more accurate replicas.

It seems to me that a lot of the talk about the OT Anovos suit being “wildly inaccurate” or having “wrong parts and details” is based off of an incorrect premise. That being, that the primary goal in making the suits was accuracy above all else. While in fact there was a good bit of explanation as far as I can remember about the suits, and indeed most other Anovos products, being a sort of compromise of the various aspects including accuracy, wearability (different body types), durability, and ease of construction.

In my view if the Anovos kit seems way wrong to you, it’s worth asking: was it ever intended for me in the first place?

HAHAHAH "the primary goal in making the suits was accuracy above all else"

So basically you don't see any difference between Anovos and real movie suit? check www.starwarshelmets.com and educate yourself more, the inaccuracies you see have nothing to do with the compromises, so basically your saying they made the wrong ears, wrong frown, wrong eye shape ect... for ease of construction and wearabilty and durability really!! doesn't make sense your point of view or whatever justification you read, When I first saw a Anovos helmet first hand I did see some purposely made mods to easy of removing face plate from mold but the rest had nothing to do with ease of production.

 

[Jagjaguwar]

HAHAHAH "the primary goal in making the suits was accuracy above all else"

So basically you don't see any difference between Anovos and real movie suit? check www.starwarshelmets.com and educate yourself more, the inaccuracies you see have nothing to do with the compromises, so basically your saying they made the wrong ears, wrong frown, wrong eye shape ect... for ease of construction and wearabilty and durability really!! doesn't make sense your point of view or whatever justification you read, When I first saw a Anovos helmet first hand I did see some purposely made mods to easy of removing face plate from mold but the rest had nothing to do with ease of production.

Uh, what? Where did I say I couldn’t tell a difference?

That isn’t what I said at all. I suggest reading my previous post again. My first sentence provides the context for the words you quoted from the second sentence.

 

[theacerbiccafe]

Just visited their site and was admiring the nerve of this sentence..... "All items are subject to change in availability, features, and delivery dates at any time and for any reason."

 

[GF]

It seems to me that a lot of the talk about the OT Anovos suit being “wildly inaccurate” or having “wrong parts and details” is based off of an incorrect premise.

To me this clearly suggest you can't see the difference

 

[Jagjaguwar]

I’m aware of the differences, not that that’s relevant to what I wrote. But I won’t try to explain again, as the thread is already on quite a tangent as it is.

As a way of righting the ship, I can say that Anovos hasn’t emailed me since I replied to a question about whether I still wanted a refund, nearly two months ago, nor have I received a refund, first requested nearly 6 months ago.

Has anyone gotten a refund since the news about the lawsuit?

 

[Hammer3246]

Regarding this Anovus Trooper debate, I leave you this.

WGAS!
WGAF!

 

[darthjones]

I was told by Anovos that I would probably be getting a LOT more new information last week.

Nothing

Am now told it will be “any day.”

Nothing

 

[Cryrid]

I was told by Anovos that I would probably be getting a LOT more new information last week.

Nothing

Am now told it will be “any day.”

Nothing

Same. I was told that updates for both of the Kylo Ren ensembles were under way (this was around June 4th) with the thought that it should be approved and online last week, but that hasn't been the case yet.

I was expecting the same kind of update that all the previous ones had been to date (four lines of text that say they're still waiting for the costumes to arrive and so it is 'on track' for whatever the new delayed date is), but the last email I received mentioned pictures that need approval so I'm thinking they might be doing this update as a blog post instead. If there are photos then it is at least somewhat promising to me since this particular costume hasn't had any except for the marketing prototype that was created around 2015. I'm hoping if there are new pictures then it means that the costume truly has finished production and is possibly in their hands now.

 

[Hammer3246]

Same. I was told that updates for both of the Kylo Ren ensembles were under way (this was around June 4th) with the thought that it should be approved and online last week, but that hasn't been the case yet.

I was expecting the same kind of update that all the previous ones had been to date (four lines of text that say they're still waiting for the costumes to arrive and so it is 'on track' for whatever the new delayed date is), but the last email I received mentioned pictures that need approval so I'm thinking they might be doing this update as a blog post instead. If there are photos then it is at least somewhat promising to me since this particular costume hasn't had any except for the marketing prototype that was created around 2015. I'm hoping if there are new pictures then it means that the costume truly has finished production and is possibly in their hands now.

What does this have do with the quality and details of an Anovous Stormtrooper?

Asking for a friend.

 

[Cryrid]

What does this have do with the quality and details of an Anovous Stormtrooper?

Asking for a friend.

Tell your friend "about as much as the thread title"

 

[cyclocrosschris]

Agreed. I saw a supposedly original ANH stunt helmet at Celebration (claimed to have been used in the opening hallway battle), and it was hideous. Looked like rats had been chewing on parts of it, and the whole thing looks like it had been been globbed with a wide bristle paint brush.
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Made the ones over at the EFX booth look Godly by comparison.
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And I know, I know, hero VS stunt and all that jazz, but the original helmets don't really do a lot for me. It'd be a cool conversation piece to own one, but I definitely would not want the full armor looking like that.

changing the OT trooper to sanitize it for todays marke

Pop quiz... Who makes this TK suit?
I should mention this is not me or my suit but it does belong to a friend.
View attachment 1030278

Cheers
Steve

anovos. the eyes have it dead to rights

 

[GF]

I would certainly rate a scan as having direct lineage to an original- it's just a different storage medium. But sadly, the majority of current prop hobbyists don't seem to care about accuracy that much any longer. Props and costumes don't have to be able to stand close scrutiny as long as they look the part in a photo hastily taken on a convention floor. (Kind of ironic considering that's how most props are viewed by filmmakers.) I'm glad there are still a few who carry the torch though.

When I think of direct lineage is when you mold from a original or a 2nd generation ect... if a 3D scan is a direct lineage explain why it turned out the way it did?