ANOVOS issues (ANOVOS ONLY discussion)

So much I want to buy from them but the warning signs are all there and even if the were not, the way they treat their customers and run their business I have lost all respect for them

May I suggest this musical selection to accompany this sentiment?

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What would happen is that the attorneys factor in costs to them in the settlment - they lay it out on page one of their papers to you - if you are suing over a $300 loss, you would get the 300, then they take the fees out of the "damages" section - so if you were awarded $1000, they take their cut from that - you don't take a cut on your purchase price.
 
That's what i was going to say. If the amount of unpaid product is 100k, they sue for 200k and their portion comes from that amount over what is owed. If there's more left over after they've taken their fees, you could conceivably get more than what you're owed.
 
For collectors, this would mean that it may be a very long time (if ever) before we see licensed, accurate, high-end costumes and prop replicas manufactured on this scale for many of the genre properties that Anovos has licensed.

I guess it’s an issue if a license means something to you, but in these current times there’s builders out there making more accurate products than Anovos, Efx, and MR.
 
I guess it’s an issue if a license means something to you, but in these current times there’s builders out there making more accurate products than Anovos, Efx, and MR.

I've seen many instances of people who absolutely refuse to buy anything that isn't licensed. I remember a particular item was being offered with castings molded from a confirmed production piece. You can't get much better than that, but at least one person wasn't interested because it wasn't "official."
 
I guess it’s an issue if a license means something to you, but in these current times there’s builders out there making more accurate products than Anovos, Efx, and MR.

Couldn’t agree more with you. But these are two different marketplaces we are talking about, aren’t they? For those who dip into both the licensed and unlicensed pools, which I think most of do, the issues with Anovos, which seems to be the repeated historical trend with these companies (with very few exceptions), will surely shrink the licensed marketplace.

It will be interesting to see how The House Of Mouse deals with any potential future similar licensees in the future.
 
Ok - the chat here is mostly about props (being a prop forum and all :) ) but this business model goes well beyond the licensed prop manufacturers. I can think of several other companies who started off well, but went downhill once they started to use pre-order money to fund the development of new products... or just pay rhe directors salaries.

Hopefully whatever the outcome, future licencees will be expected to take pre-orders only after the items have shipped from whatever factory they are made in.
 
Sideshow for example, takes preorder money for almost all of their new product listings and they always deliver.
NECA dabbles in the prop replica product game too, but they also sell a plethora of other items too that have a wider appeal, smaller price tags and "impulse buy" potential that keep a steady revenue stream coming in.
I feel a big issue with companies like ICONS and Master Replicas (and now looking like Anovos) is sticking to limited and/or high-ticket items with a much more narrow appeal.
So maybe the ideal company to produce licensed prop replicas is one that also offers toys, nick-nacks and pop culture memorabilia of all kinds to keep a steady flow of profit.
 
I want to rub this in Anovos' face! I bought an entire Luke belt rig in sections. I already have the holster and just bought the rest yesterday and I already have a shipping EST of late next week. It has not even been barely a month and paid $100 less or so.

I hope they feel like ****.
 
I think moving forward, any company should focus on 1 thing. If it’s trooper armor kits, do the run of armor kits, then announce the next project, and keep it simple.

One project at a time, I think covering so many bases spreads you too thin

Idk I’ve never even did a parts run before, so what do I know

But thinking about the easiest and most efficient way to do it, I think 1 project at a time would be a better out come
 
I think moving forward, any company should focus on 1 thing. If it’s trooper armor kits, do the run of armor kits, then announce the next project, and keep it simple.

One project at a time, I think covering so many bases spreads you too thin

Idk I’ve never even did a parts run before, so what do I know

But thinking about the easiest and most efficient way to do it, I think 1 project at a time would be a better out come

I agree they offered to much too soon. That may be their issue and got them so stuck in a rut where they can't deliver or refund.

Regardless it's on them and need to pay the consequences.
 
I want to rub this in Anovos' face! I bought an entire Luke belt rig in sections. I already have the holster and just bought the rest yesterday and I already have a shipping EST of late next week. It has not even been barely a month and paid $100 less or so.

I hope they feel like ****.
YEAH!!!
 
And on top of everything I originally requested 3 extra saber hooks, 2 for my Luke esb pilot vest and one for Vader. But I dropped down 2 two to save money. Since ebay did not combine shipping on the separate listings for the belt parts the guy threw in the extra 3rd hook at no cost.

THAT is customer service.
 
I think moving forward, any company should focus on 1 thing. If it’s trooper armor kits, do the run of armor kits, then announce the next project, and keep it simple.

One project at a time, I think covering so many bases spreads you too thin

Idk I’ve never even did a parts run before, so what do I know

But thinking about the easiest and most efficient way to do it, I think 1 project at a time would be a better out come
That is not practical for a business. A garage kit maker? sure. A business with licensing fees and a host of other costs? its impractical.
 
I think moving forward, any company should focus on 1 thing. If it’s trooper armor kits, do the run of armor kits, then announce the next project, and keep it simple.

One project at a time, I think covering so many bases spreads you too thin

Idk I’ve never even did a parts run before, so what do I know

But thinking about the easiest and most efficient way to do it, I think 1 project at a time would be a better out come
If a company has good product management skills (which they should), releasing and producing multiple product isn't a problem.
Anovos on the other hand just threw up pre-orders with what seemed to be every other day and all the product had the exact same delivery date. From the beginning it was a joke. It was obvious they were trying to get a huge influx of money with no plan on releasing at various times in the year. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if later it came out that there was no internal plan or factories set up; every decision has a fly by the seat of your pants feel.
 
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