ANH Millennium Falcon Plans (First Revision)

[Aurora]

Now these plans are rough but will give a rough measurements of the ANH Millennium Falcon. The base line measurement was given by crackerjazz he guessed the cockpit tunnel was 6" in width.

The plans are not final they will be adjusted as more information comes available.

Enjoy

EDIT: First revision

-Eric

 

[MonsieurTox]

Re: ANH Millennium Falcon Plans (rough)

Nice work so far !

 

[Gort]

Re: ANH Millennium Falcon Plans (rough)

Thanks for helping out with what seems to be a very popular subject at the moment. If its all based on a guessed cockpit dia, maybe you could do a cross check with the McLaren M23 parts which we can get a definite size for. They are quite long in the image and if you can get a high enough rez pic could be used to check some of the dims?

Cheers
Nick

 

[Scott Graham]

Re: ANH Millennium Falcon Plans (rough)

I was curious to know if there's any distortion, so I took it and drew a circle over the saucer area in Illustrator. Turns out it's a perfect circle, so the photo must be pretty trustworthy to use. Just my two cents...

And: good start!

 

[Aurora]

Re: ANH Millennium Falcon Plans (rough)

I was curious to know if there's any distortion, so I took it and drew a circle over the saucer area in Illustrator. Turns out it's a perfect circle, so the photo must be pretty trustworthy to use. Just my two cents...

And: good start!

There will always be distortion i wish i could correct for it but i can not.

The best way i am going to correct for it is by using circles and kit parts. There is actually a small amount in this image i did luck out for the most part

Thanks for helping out with what seems to be a very popular subject at the moment. If its all based on a guessed cockpit dia, maybe you could do a cross check with the McLaren M23 parts which we can get a definite size for. They are quite long in the image and if you can get a high enough rez pic could be used to check some of the dims?

Cheers
Nick

The original image is poor what i was expecting it to be but i was able to sharpen up the detail the best i could. I unfortunately do not have any kit parts for this but i would agree the McLaren M23 or the tank kit we would have a better guess.

I do wish i had some finite numbers hopping other members will have kits with known dimension. It would fix the the distortion to a degree and can move on to other images to further speculate the actual size of this

-Eric

 

[jedimaster]

Re: ANH Millennium Falcon Plans (rough)

Nice work man. Keep it coming.this is just what we've been looking for.

 

[ozzyguanche]

Re: ANH Millennium Falcon Plans (rough)

crackerjazz has checked his figures with original parts, crackajazz's measurments have also been confirmed by a few others who have original kit parts and have also came to the same conclusions.

Trust his measurments.

Ozzy

 

[Colin Droidmilk]

Re: ANH Millennium Falcon Plans (rough)

You guys are going to drive me nuts! Bringing the 5-footer into the realm of feasibility. Wish I had the time, space and money to come with you on this epic journey, lol! Good luck to you all... Seeing this plan has me itching to to try and block out a basic shell, but I can't go there, I can't do it, I must look away now...

 

[asemblyrequired]

Re: ANH Millennium Falcon Plans (rough)

You guys are going to drive me nuts! Bringing the 5-footer into the realm of feasibility. Wish I had the time, space and money to come with you on this epic journey, lol! Good luck to you all... Seeing this plan has me itching to to try and block out a basic shell, but I can't go there, I can't do it, I must look away now...

It's calling your name colin...Colin...buy some styrene and cut me out.

...Now can we do the Sandcrawler next ( measurements i mean) . I just bought my first kit of the SS sandcrawler and it's scaring me to death looking at the builds of it.

-James

 

[crackerjazz]

Re: ANH Millennium Falcon Plans (rough)

Actually, Ozzy, the only part I've got is the Wankel:wacko. Anyway, I just tried to figure how many Wankels the cockpit is wide.

The Wankel is 20.7cm long (8.14inches).

By measuring the Wankel from the photo..

And comparing it to the cockpit diameter:

I came up with 6.2inches. With errors from working on such a small photo with shadows and all, I was guessing the original tube material used was 6 inches (as American materials would have come in inches). Gort is right - better to verify using the McLaren parts.

 

[eagle1]

Re: ANH Millennium Falcon Plans

Hey Eric, thanks for doing that plan, confirms many of my calculations as well, so that's good news!.
The cockpit tube as i had worked out, came to a base size of 6" (152.4mm) which is the largest size in Plastruct's catalog & also the size of the Falcon's radar 'flat dish'. By the time you add all the plating & kit parts etc... it would push this measure out further.

I have many donor kit parts for this build, so if anybody wants a pic or size let me know guys.

Great to see all the interest in this model of late & with all the info & help people are offering, well, it's just awesome!.
Cheers
Stu

 

[Aurora]

Re: ANH Millennium Falcon Plans (rough)

It's calling your name colin...Colin...buy some styrene and cut me out.

...Now can we do the Sandcrawler next ( measurements i mean) . I just bought my first kit of the SS sandcrawler and it's scaring me to death looking at the builds of it.

-James

I will keep it in mind first i would like to get the "5ft"er finished an want to go back an finish the 32in plans that i have sorta done

Actually, Ozzy, the only part I've got is the Wankel:wacko. Anyway, I just tried to figure how many Wankels the cockpit is wide.

The Wankel is 20.7cm long (8.14inches).

By measuring the Wankel from the photo..

And comparing it to the cockpit diameter:

I came up with 6.2inches. With errors from working on such a small photo with shadows and all, I was guessing the original tube material used was 6 inches (as American materials would have come in inches). The length of the 5-ft that I came up with using this method is 68 inches (173cm) - just like that caption in Aurora's photo.

I will have to check on the Wankel part length on the program an see if the image matches. But we still have a discrepancy it is about 1.5in not to bad.

After finding out the overal length the the 6in tubing made alot of sense to me. The 32in had cockpit tub width of 3in if you double the size you get ruffly the same scale as the 5ft falcon.

Thanks again crackerjazz always was wondering about the size of this

I will be doing some further adjustment so expect an update in the next coming day

EDIT: posted a slight revision on the first post i will need to find the more information on the engine deck then i will move on to the side

Hey Eric, thanks for doing that plan, confirms many of my calculations as well, so that's good news!.
The cockpit tube as i had worked out, came to a base size of 6" (152.4mm) which is the largest size in Plastruct's catalog & also the size of the Falcon's radar 'flat dish'. By the time you add all the plating & kit parts etc... it would push this measure out further.

I have many donor kit parts for this build, so if anybody wants a pic or size let me know guys.

Great to see all the interest in this model of late & with all the info & help people are offering, well, it's just awesome!.
Cheers
Stu

Looks like you an i were posting at the same time. I am glad the 6in is holding true an others have confirmed this and it is nice to know the size of the 'flat dish'

But i dont know I believe the plating on the mandibles plating goes to front an lays flat to the front. The total length that i measured with all the deck plating an engine deck plating. What i will be interested in is finding the how much of an overhang will actually be. I know the 32in have about a 1cm difference for just the dome skin with alittle extra for the plating about 5mm i believe. If my hunch holds true it will be around 3cm but we will see.

The parts will be handy when we get to the side walls and pods i not expecting a good image like this for the side.

I am happy to help others on this i needed to learn more on this program. I also feel like i got to give back so many other people have done amazing work with kit id's and just general help i had to do something

-Eric

 

[seven]

I imported the image in post one into CAD and scaled it up so the cockpit tube was 6" wide. Here is a PDF of the Falcon at 1:1.

 

[Scott Graham]

Aurora: when I drew a circle over it, I noticed the mandible area definitely shows the absence of overhang. That area would be a smaller radius circle. Maybe by taking the difference of the two circles would give you the actual overhang dimensions.

 

[Aurora]

Scott The mandibles have been puzzling me for some time i have been actually avoiding that section. I will look into and find the difference see if i can come up with a better dimension.

I have also noticed a difference in the mandibles I think the lower one is slightly different (the lower looks like it flipped with the upper so the lower is pointing in compared to the upper). I dont know if its do to diistortion, light, prospective so many things that could be it. How ever there is a noticeable difference if you compare the outlines of each. I dont know if any one has confirm the lower is slight different then the upper.

 

[vfxsup64]

The following might be of some help for extrapolating measurements and proportional comparison.

I "scanned" the Entex Wankel kit parts on a flatbed scanner at 600 dpi. While a flatbed scanner has some slight parallax shift along the minor axis, I find photography introduces too much parallax error for accurate measurements.

For what I'm currently doing with my overall '5 ft' MF measurement survey, I'm only interested in the overall part "footprint" - the cross-section that is lying flat on the scanner glass.

I come up with an overall part length of 8.132 inches.



More to follow...

Andre

 

[eagle1]

Hi Andre, great to see some folks still plugging away at measures & kit parts.
The more people do this the better overall dimension picture we'll get of this thing!.
We're very close though to something we hopefully can all agree on.

BTW, your port/starboard are reversed.
Stu

 

[vfxsup64]

Stu,

Thank you for the kind words. I look forward to posting more and hopefully add relevant info to the database. Many hands make light work!

As for the reversed parts, I can see how it would look like that. In the previous image, we are looking into the part - kind of like a negative mold.

In the image below, I further outline the process I used on the flatbed scanner. The Wankel parts are ideal as the two halves are essentially mirrored and join together in the center.

I'm collecting more kits/donor parts and will post progress as I go.


Regards,

Andre

 

[eagle1]

Ah, that explains the pic then, we were looking into the part, duh!.

 

[vfxsup64]

Stu,

Some more 'measurement analysis' progress attached below. I took my starboard-side Wankel flatbed scan and did a quick 1:1 comparison with the '5 ft' ANH MF using your cockpit diameter of 5.75 inches as a baseline.

More to follow...