Am I the only one that thinks Return of the Jedi is a turkey?

I still like it.

When ROTJ came out and I saw it in the cinema I thought it was amazing and the best in the Trilogy. It never had the big impact that Star Wars did when I saw it in the cinema but to be honest no other film has for me.

On reflection it is the weakest of the three but it still a good family fun movie and brings back great memories.

Chris
 
Oh gawd. Apparently prequel bashing has gotten old, so now we're gonna do the same thing to RotJ? I really hope not.

People need to remember that value in being able to go to the movie theater and just have a good time. Yeah, the prequels weren't great...but I still had a really good time at each and every one of them. Why? Because I allow myself to have fun and enjoy things for what they are. More folks should give it a try.

QFT! :thumbsup
 
I freely admit that I only hold positive thoughts for Jedi because it's lumped in with the OT and was the first Star Wars film I saw in the theaters. And I saw it at age 6, which was the perfect age. I dug the ewoks, I had the action figures, I'd spent the past few years running around with a whiffle bat pretending to be Luke Skywalker, and when the blizzards that hit Philly in the early 80s hit, and I was less than 4 feet tall, the sidewalks became the trenches of Hoth.

But when I watch Jedi these days...yeah, I see the flaws. I see them in the first two as well, but the first two are a lot less childish, as Cayman describes, and have fewer gags, as Got Wookie points out.

For me, Jedi survives for three reasons and three reasons only:

1.) The effects shots are still pretty cool.

2.) It completes the OT story (albeit perhaps not the way it was originally intended).

3.) Nostalgia.


Outside of that, I'd say it's tied with ROTS. ROTS, in some ways, is more appealing to me, although I find ROTJ to end more naturally than ROTS does.


Anyway, I think both ROTJ and ROTS aren't quite crap films, but they're definitely flawed, and definitely STRONGLY influenced by their precursors. ROTJ ends up being more enjoyable because it has the first two leading into it, and ROTS suffers because it has the first two prequels laying its foundation. In terms of the raw potential available in each storyline, though, I think ROTS had the potential to be leagues better than ROTJ, but that would've required basically erasing the first two prequels and redoing them totally differently. Likewise, ROTJ could've been total crap, but wasn't because the first two OT films are so closely tied to it.


P.S. It's not "Anakin's story."
 
Though it was my least favorite of the the only three true SW movies. I love it. Ewoks, not so much. Shoulda been wookies. Coulda done without the little monkey lizard pet of jabbas too. But aside from that. Lots of great Palpy scenes and in this film he seems wicked thru and thru. Great film.
 
The film's not a turkey, no. Mainly because it contains some of the most well-realised, most beguiling characters in popular cinema (though of course it inherited them from the first films) - despite the fact that they were not used properly. The film is the worst in the trilogy by a huge margin, clearly, and I agree with virtually all the above criticism, though I was happy to see Fett get eaten by that anus in the sand. Always hated his costume, and in any case he was always just a cypher. Anyway, the fact is the film has a charisma level most directors of SF movies today can only dream about. A turkey is a pile of turd with zero redeeming features. Any film with the OT SW characters and the greatest space battle shots outside of Star Wars has redeeming features enough to raise it above 'turkey'.
 
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LEAVE GEORGE LUCAS ALONE!!!!!!!
Leave him alone, leave him alone, leave him alooooooooooone (sob, sob)!!

:lol
 
Re: I'm I the only one that thinks Return of the Jedi is a turkey?

I can't stand how preachy and annoying and just plain arrogant then Jedi were in the prequels.


I get what you're saying, but wasn't that kinda, you know, the point?
As in, the Jedi order ultimately fails. I think Luke stands as an example against the original Jedi, surpassing that which made them fail through his individuation. He's the uber-Jedi.
 
I'm 33 and ROTJ is the first SW movie I really remember seeing in the theater. I know I saw ESB, just don't remember. Anyway I still like all the movies. The Death Star battle is awesome, though I think it had too few ships. Speederbikes, awesome. Lightsaber in R2 awesome. I liked the Jedi in the Prequels, but the scene where Luke falls off his speederbike then deflects the other bike's lasers then chops off the front is still friggin cool! That is really the first time you see what a real Jedi is like in the OT.
 
I still enjoy it for the most part... but there are a few scenes in it that feel like filler.

Then that added "Jedi Rocks" in the SE makes me want to rip out my eyes and stuff them in my ears... but luckily, thanks to fast forward/ skip, I don't have to go to that extreme.
 
Not a fan, teddy bears fighting the Empire didn't sit well. And lots of other stuff already covered.
 
Easily the weakest of the OT but still head and shoulders above the prequels. The Ewoks were my biggest problem but they were inter cut with an awesome space battle and a pretty cool lightsaber battle.

My favourite lightsaber scene is right after Vader says he would try to turn Leia. All emotion and flailing with the music... Great scene.
 
heh, not once is the name "ewok" mentioned in the film yet everyone knows what they are, even back in '83, cheap looking, plastic eyed joy killers who mysteriously can suspend at-st crushing sized logs in the air....
Death star battle - awesome
Speeder bikes-awesome
Admiral Ackbar-awesome

The rest is just muppets in space.
 
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