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Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

you know what... This is not fair for everbody waiting. Just like our incedent many years ago. I never spoke with anybody about it and give you the benefit of the doubt.
Now I see this evolving into the same. Just do what you agreed to.

Hope this will work out for everybody.

Sincerly,

Bas
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

Why do you guys keep paying for stuff upfront? Especially after the Landspeeder project?!?!

The mind... reels.
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

Why do you guys keep paying for stuff upfront? Especially after the Landspeeder project?!?!

The mind... reels.

I just did a quick search. Wow that made for an interesting read. Did Mic ever make the kit?
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

I don't want to speak for him, but i think he said he found time recently. I had it in the works too, but my 3D guy is as unreliable as .... well.... a lot of RPF project people.
:rolleyes
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

Guys,

The Landspeeder debacle as well as Trooperprop's incident happened in 2006/7. As mentioned a few times here and before, I apologised to those involved and refunded anything paid. Trooperprop also got all the 100's of castings and molds for free in return. I cannot turn back the time. I wish i could. This will haunt me, and i know a few people keep on reminding me about it.

The APC's are build in my spare time. The kits are incredibly timeconsuming, and i'll never get any of the time involved back. I will most likely not ever again offer a multimedia kit. The trouble is simply not worth it.

But i do need to pay my bills, I don't have a well paid job, so work all hours i can and get offered. I'm sure i don't need to explain that.

I take my obligations to my clients seriously, and i will continue to work on the APC's until they are done. No backing out from my side, nothing new till this is done.

I understand the concerns, and i'll better myself and post more.

Cheers,

Wasili
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

Nope..

I have two that are about to be shipped to their clients, and then that's finito.

Cheers,

Wasili
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

Wasili, i just wanted to say that the work you do is totally amazing. I dont think ive come across anything like this level detail before, so my hat is off to you.

To everyone who is getting worried/angry etc: projects where you have to find time to work (on them) are a hard balancing act. Life comes first in many cases. Work and life are intertwined to the point where weeks will go by before you can allocate the required amount of time to progress. This is from someone who has more than 10 currently on the go...

But anyway seriously great work dude. I hope to be able to work to your level someday.

Cheers,
Combust

www.makehackvoid.com
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

Hi to all

Is there still anyone available and what is the price

Tor
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

wasili, i think the main problem here is that most of the "updates" are not on the APC. All we are hearing is about your job/jobs.

Like it or not, the day you took payments for the APC models, THIS became your job.

Keith.
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

wasili, i think the main problem here is that most of the "updates" are not on the APC. All we are hearing is about your job/jobs.

Like it or not, the day you took payments for the APC models, THIS became your job.

Keith.

Well said Keith, well said.
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

Guys,

Trooperprop also got all the 100's of castings and molds for free in return. I cannot turn back the time. I wish i could. This will haunt me, and i know a few people keep on reminding me about it.

Wasili

100's of castings??? a box of +/- 50little parts that were useless on there own.
And I got my screen used models back in a block of silecone...
You made the great start but did not finish. I did not to rattle this all up but it really makes me sad to see it happens again.

Sincerly,

BasD
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

Like it or not, the day you took payments for the APC models, THIS became your job.

Keith.

Really??? Does anyone actually make a living, pay their mortgage and put food on their family's table from small RPF runs?
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

Really??? Does anyone actually make a living, pay their mortgage and put food on their family's table from small RPF runs?

Well the money went somewhere. What he did with it is up to him.
He may well have paid the mortgage and put food on his family's table with the cash.
Is our cash any different from the cash he gets from his freelance work?

b26354, its clear you are happy with the way this project is going, thats good, i'm happy for you, but some people who have paid are not happy with the way its looking and are worried.

Keith.
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

Well the money went somewhere. What he did with it is up to him.
He may well have paid the mortgage and put food on his family's table with the cash.
Is our cash any different from the cash he gets from his freelance work?
Keith.

According to the interweb, minimum wage in The Netherlands is about 65 euros per day. So the kit price of 399 euros pays for 6 days @ minimum wage. And that's not including materials, overheads or subcontractor costs. So I wouldn't consider that even remotely in the same ballpark as "paying work". Basically Wasili is giving us his free time.

As for the delays: How late was the HCG pulse rifle? Anyone remember the MR vader helmet?
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - 28 1/4" long ** 22nd update, page 5 **

And yes Frosty, i work full-time as a modelmaker so commisioned work is what i do all the time. Most of the time it's bread and butter stuff like architectural and ships etc.

Cheers,

Wasili

And why do we only get free time if the above is true?

Keith.
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

100's of castings??? a box of +/- 50little parts that were useless on there own.
And I got my screen used models back in a block of silecone...
You made the great start but did not finish. I did not to rattle this all up but it really makes me sad to see it happens again.

Sincerly,

BasD

Bas, Trooperprop,

The parts i made for you were excellent and you know it. The parts were numerous, especially for that tiny rodger young model. I was late and wasn't honest about it. You showed up at my workshop unannounced and threatened me with that fellow you brought. You took the silicone molds, some of which were not finished. I cut them open to show you the models were inside, while you went through my workshop looking for stuff, even taking pictures with your mobile, of stuff lying on the back table. None of your business there. You commented on the sticky silicone at the base of the mold boxes, which was simply common with this silicone brand after vacuuming. I put all the molds plus mold boxes in sealed bags. You took every casting i made, including the seperate faulty ones that did have airbubbles in them, that was your own choice.

Two weeks later you got all your cash back, and the viper kit parts you took as a deposit, were returned to me in the bags full of unhardened silicone, in a box, which had my name written on it, slightly different to insult me.

So in the end you got all my work, and all your money.

You obviously have a big chip on your shoulder, and have been waiting for an opportunity to get back at me. This happened nearly 5 years ago, in early 2006, off this board.

I made a lot of mistakes in 2006. I cannot go back in time and change that, and cannot stress how much i want to. Whenever i couldn't really cope with a situation, i would hide and not communicate. Incredibly stupid. I learned from that and i'am not doing that anymore, i openly communicate.

Wasili
 
Re: Aliens APC - 1/12 - ** 27th update, page 9 **

Keith, guys,

There are some that say that RPF projects, even done for cash, are a hobby. You will never ever hear that from me, and i have never said that. Check all my postings in this thread. I believe that when money is exchanged, it is a job. Period. I mentioned at the very beginning that i would work on this fulltime for two months. I did and stretched it until the phne started ringing again for work, but cannot do that all the time.

This is an incredibly costly project, and the margins are hardly there. First thing i did when orders and payments came in, was buy materials for the project. Thousands of euros went into that alone at the start, and more along the way. I also came to realize as months went by, that the sheer number of hours into this project was staggering, and it's still going up.

I am a modelmaker by day. RPF projects, commisioned sci-fi projects coming from this and other boards are a joke BUDGETWISE. Don't get me wrong here, i take these project serious, and have a lot of respect for anyone single person doing runs on this boards and continueing (sp?) to do so. I am so jealous for anyone doing commisioned scifi projects, and actually getting paid normal fees for it, like Jim Key's Custom Replicas. I love the APC, and started it because i really wanted one, knew others would like to have one as well, so offered it.

In this country and in many others, pro-modelmaking is dead. There is a close to non-existent movie industry, no demand for propbuilders at all, it's all architectural modelmaking. When the crisis hit in 2008, all building projects were halted and many stopped. Out of the big three architectural modelmaking companies, the last filed papers to court in september to sack his workers. About a third of architects in this country have gone belly up, cities like Amsterdam even announced a full stop on future development recently.

Right now every time a modelling project is in the air, everyone is on their feet, everyone fights for the job. I, like all others, lower the hourly rates to a bottom, just to get the job. The client knows it, they play on that next to having to cut their budget anyway to avoid going under themselves. And you work as long as they give you something. They show the hoop, you jump. When there's work, it's when your client calls out, and not the week after. If you say no now, you get passed next time there's anything.

In august the calls came more regularly, and not knowing how long it would last, i took on anything there was. Working basically all hours possible, till or past midnight if can be. And the budgets are ridiculously low. This is how i pay the bills and feed the family. To do otherwise is plain suicide.

The APC has 300+ parts, and the kits go for 399 euro. What you pay for your APC goes straight into costs, and i think it's obviously clear nearly no-one can make a living off of this. If they do, i bow down very very deeply to you. The best one does is add a bit to one's regular income, but not more than that for most garage kitters or parts suppliers. I guess this is why nearly no-one offers big models or kits, why you see mostly smaller models on the market. That realization came to me when i did the numbers a few months ago and stopped taking orders for it.

I understand the frustration with the delay, and everyone involved has every right to whip the stick and speak up. Sure, my planning and expected delivery dates are laughable. But i had expected honestly that by communicating the delay due to work commitments, people would still be aggrivated, but would understand it.

I continue to work on the APC, it's on my mind every single day. But please let me finish it.

All my very best. Chin up. Onwards.

Oh, and sorry for the long post.....


Wasili.
 
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