Brian Muir
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A view of the back of the helmet from the test shots. What do you make of this - I have my own theory.
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exoray
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A view of the back of the helmet from the test shots. What do you make of this - I have my own theory.
Brian
Looks swooped to me, interesting back detail as well...
Thanks for sharing...
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Interesting with the greeblies on the back! Again... very cool photo and thanks for showing that. :thumbsup
Lord Abaddon
Sr Member
Oh nice! I like those back details, makes the helmet look more advanced somehow. Harkens a bit back to the McQuarrie Vader helmet with the greeblies on the cheeks. 
GINO
Sr Member
That's the same cap/back as all the others, except for the tie pilot/x-wing com pad laid onto the mold, most likely just a separate piece glued on that ended up not being used.
This detail also appears on a tie helmet we've seen. It appears on the very back of the mohawk where the little box usually goes.
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This detail also appears on a tie helmet we've seen. It appears on the very back of the mohawk where the little box usually goes.
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bagpus3
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this & this look way differentHere's a pic.
You can see that detail was formed separately then glued on. I believe the same for the above trooper back/cap.
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but similar.
see the four unifrorm signature details running left of the oblong running down
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Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Greeblie box just turned 90 degrees clock-wise from TIE to trooper.
Qui-Gonzalez
Master Member
All of this global warming is just nonsen....wait, wrong thread, sorry!
GINO
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Brian Muir
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Gino
Looking back at the detail on the dvd I agree that it is the same. The only difference being that it is part of the casting on the test shot helmet rather than stuck on which means that at some point it must have been part of the mould.
The tie pilot details are as you say stuck on
Brian
GINO
Sr Member
Hey Brian,
I think it's extremely unlikely that it is part of the mold.
Surely it's not clear enough on that DVD to determine either way.
Even in the big pic I just posted, you have to really look to be able to tell.
However I can easily see how one could think that it was.
There is a separate mold that creates that piece as an individual part and it is used on other costumes as well.
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I think it's extremely unlikely that it is part of the mold.
Surely it's not clear enough on that DVD to determine either way.
Even in the big pic I just posted, you have to really look to be able to tell.
However I can easily see how one could think that it was.
There is a separate mold that creates that piece as an individual part and it is used on other costumes as well.
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defstartrooper
Sr Member
I agree with that especially if this is an HDPE helmet and the part was glued on prior to painting the join would be completely lost with the thick layers of paint.
GINO
Sr Member
I wish we could see it in higher res to be able to determine more definitively.
I suppose the possibilities are:
1. It was part of an actual alternate/prototype/early back/cap mold.
2. It was a separate mold just temporarily stuck down on the back/cap mold and then formed as one part.
3. It was formed as a separate piece, then glued to the surface.
4. It was formed as a separate piece, then glued in place from the inside with a square window cut out of the back/cap so that it would protrude through.
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I suppose the possibilities are:
1. It was part of an actual alternate/prototype/early back/cap mold.
2. It was a separate mold just temporarily stuck down on the back/cap mold and then formed as one part.
3. It was formed as a separate piece, then glued to the surface.
4. It was formed as a separate piece, then glued in place from the inside with a square window cut out of the back/cap so that it would protrude through.
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Well maybe someone could show their TE with the same angle and we'll see...maybe it is just how it is trimmed on the bottom...
The trapezoids seem bigger....?
Just to show that swoop can vary between helmets so I'd like to know how much was originally there to begin with...
So if Elstree vacuformed that helmet, and that helmet came from original moulds, and if that is part of the casting, did Liz sculpt that in? So I am curious if AA got the molds from Elstree, why didn't he include that feature, yet it seems similar to what was added to the rear of that original TIE helmet. Very confusing....
No, sorry, it is not some illusion of photography. Even when the angle is different, the swoops show the same corresponding differences in the amount of curvature. If someone can duplicate the way this Elstree TK helmet looks with one of their replicas, then I'll believe you.
