I can’t believe Gino came in to post that comparison photo but said nothing else. Actually, I guess I can, but it’s just really, really sad the way this company has treated its customers.
Maybe a bit unfair and it wasn't something I was seeking (was doing google image searches for Vader busts, since I'm currently working on one). An image I came across led me to this link (the response in post #6 made me chuckle a bit when I thought of this thread).
https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=67020&p=938047&viewfull=1#post938047
This asks for a good ol' screenshot :cool
https://s17.postimg.cc/5k1tt735b/Gino_about_licensed_stuff.jpg
That post was from almost 10 years ago. Stalk much?
And at that time, no company producing licensed sw props, costumes, statues or toys were interested in trying to reach that high a level of accuracy.
Some people either weren't around, or forget what it was like back then. Full out idealization ruled the land.
And yes, the scout helmet is super accurate even considering the compromises that were made. Still more accurate than any fan sculpt and if it weren't for RS (which even though very nice also has some accuracy issues), would be the only chance most people would have at getting anything with pedigree tied to the actual production.
These are mass produced licensed collectibles. There is always going to be a level of compromise you have to accept compared to an actual film prop. If you can't understand that then you really have no understanding about how manufacturing on a large scale in China works.
The best you could hope for is for there to be someone like me who actually cares enough to push for them to be as good as they can. And I can promise you no one would push harder. So you can trust that the scout was pushed to the max capacity of what a factory could turn out. Do I wish it could have been pushed further? Of course. Accepting the limits of what a factory can do is hard, especially for someone like me but thats just the hard reality.
And when all things are considered, it turned out pretty damn amazing. I can understand being disappointed with the compromises, but to act like its trash because of them just goes to show how utterly spoiled we have become as prop collectors. Which is a good thing as well as bad. And I'm sure I'm partially to blame for being such an accuracy nut.
At the time of that old post (almost 10 years ago) I would have sold a kidney for the chance to own a replica of the scout as good as the EFX, and so would have everyone else.
Skip ahead to the present and it's still mind-blowing that we have access to replicas of this caliber.
You're obviously not familiar with the fan sculpt out there, because my MLC from years ago looks way better than the crap EFX released.That post was from almost 10 years ago. Stalk much?
And at that time, no company producing licensed sw props, costumes, statues or toys were interested in trying to reach that high a level of accuracy.
Some people either weren't around, or forget what it was like back then. Full out idealization ruled the land.
And yes, the scout helmet is super accurate even considering the compromises that were made. Still more accurate than any fan sculpt and if it weren't for RS (which even though very nice also has some accuracy issues), would be the only chance most people would have at getting anything with pedigree tied to the actual production.
These are mass produced licensed collectibles. There is always going to be a level of compromise you have to accept compared to an actual film prop. If you can't understand that then you really have no understanding about how manufacturing on a large scale in China works.
The best you could hope for is for there to be someone like me who actually cares enough to push for them to be as good as they can. And I can promise you no one would push harder. So you can trust that the scout was pushed to the max capacity of what a factory could turn out. Do I wish it could have been pushed further? Of course. Accepting the limits of what a factory can do is hard, especially for someone like me but thats just the hard reality.
And when all things are considered, it turned out pretty damn amazing. I can understand being disappointed with the compromises, but to act like its trash because of them just goes to show how utterly spoiled we have become as prop collectors. Which is a good thing as well as bad. And I'm sure I'm partially to blame for being such an accuracy nut.
At the time of that old post (almost 10 years ago) I would have sold a kidney for the chance to own a replica of the scout as good as the EFX, and so would have everyone else.
Skip ahead to the present and it's still mind-blowing that we have access to replicas of this caliber.
Stalk much?
Classic example as to why I can not stand Gino and his pathetic attitude on his stuff and props in general. He has been banned every where else why not here? ...
Not sure about that given EFX was around in 2008, and of course MR had done some pretty nice stuff like the Boba Fett helmet, RotS and AotC Clones. This helmet is a huge step backwards for EFX - surely even you see that.That post was from almost 10 years ago....And at that time, no company producing licensed sw props, costumes, statues or toys were interested in trying to reach that high a level of accuracy.... Full out idealization ruled the land.
I take exception to this. Calling the EFX Scout "Super Accurate" is frankly laughable. Adding your caveat would be like saying "this Darth Vader figure is super accurate - considering its made from Jello"And yes, the scout helmet is super accurate even considering the compromises that were made.
Comparing the EFX to a Fan sculpt fully demonstrates how disappointing it is. Yeah we kind of expected it to be more accurate than a bespoke sculpt. However despite the side-swipe I think even you would privately agree the RS is a massive step up on accuracy over the EFX.Still more accurate than any fan sculpt and if it weren't for RS (which even though very nice also has some accuracy issues), would be the only chance most people would have at getting anything with pedigree tied to the actual production.
Gino - yeah we know that - but this is a mess. Its seems clear that EFX compromised the accuracy of the helmet by prioritising a visor that could flip over 90 degrees - something not seen on-screen. EFX got its priorities wrong, didnt account properly for the different materials used, failed to adequately Quality Check their work.There is always going to be a level of compromise you have to accept compared to an actual film prop.
Sorry but these come across as embarrassing excuses. To paraphrase "imagine how bad it would've been had I not been involved" is not a great argument.The best you could hope for is for there to be someone like me who actually cares enough to push for them to be as good as they can. And I can promise you no one would push harder. So you can trust that the scout was pushed to the max capacity of what a factory could turn out. Do I wish it could have been pushed further? Of course. Accepting the limits of what a factory can do is hard, especially for someone like me but thats just the hard reality.
Sorry but this is just a garbage statement.At the time of that old post (almost 10 years ago) I would have sold a kidney for the chance to own a replica of the scout as good as the EFX, and so would have everyone else.
No Gino it didn't. After four years it turned out a mess. A helmet with an unnecessarily gaping, irregular void when viewed from above, a visor that doesn't close - and jaw flaring to try and help it fit together better. Its a stretch to call it "acceptable", a million miles from "amazing". Please tone it down!And when all things are considered, it turned out pretty damn amazing.
Stop trying to tell us this is wonderful and that we should be somehow grateful we're allowed to put $700 down for one of these.Skip ahead to the present and it's still mind-blowing that we have access to replicas of this caliber.
GINO: Skip ahead to the present and it's still mind-blowing that we have access to replicas of this caliber.
Stop trying to tell us this is wonderful and that we should be somehow grateful we're allowed to put $700 down for one of these.
Don't give up hope too soon, Gino. If I knew it was a run that Scott was backing it would have my attention....