patrickivan
Sr Member
Re: Man of Steel Sequel in Active Development
Are you sure Superman being gay or bi wouldn't hurt you? I am reading a whole lot of hurt over the idea.
Let's just say for a moment that he was gay. Superman likes men. You know what I'm saying. Laying with other men. Of the same sex.
Now let's say that for the most part, in the comics and movies, we don't actually see much man love. Maybe the odd kiss, or wakes up in bed and his companion thanks him for not using his super strength on him.
We really don't see that, but we KNOW it's there. He's gay.
IF he were gay, what is it about that, do you find bothersome? It changes nothing about WHO Superman/ Clark is. It changes NOTHING about WHO he helps or WHY he helps anyone. He still pisses standing up (or sits, whatever). He still eats his Wheaties. He still fights for the American Way of Life.
Okay, now let's say that the comics and movies don't even show anything Mano a Mano. Let's just say they acknowledge his boyfriend now and then.
"Hey Lois, no, I can't hang out. I have a big date with Rog. Yup... Captain A! Eh? "
But we never see it.
Is it okay then? NOTHING else changes about who or what Superman is...
Except that.
How is that an issue for you? It really shouldn't bother you, and you say it doesn't.
But such things are incredibly powerful to marginalized people. People who feel they can't fit into society.
See, thats where youre wrong. Superman isnt struggling with who he is. Thats how Zack Snyder is portraying him because the guy is a crappy story teller. You know who has done Superman well recently? Marvel, with Captain America. THATS how Superman should be, minus the "man out of time" aspect of it.
No, youre not understanding where Im coming from. Superman isnt bi, dont change him just for the sake of change. Why do you think Marvel comic sales are floundering? Because their editorial staff changed the core super heroes to be more diverse. People that followed those characters for years feel betrayed because instead of creating new characters, Marvel is trying to bank on the names but changing it to try and get new readers, but alienate their old ones. Then nobody buys them.
That really says that we like our characters for who they are and what they represent. When you take those things away, those things dont make the character anymore.
It doesnt hurt me at all, but when its something I care about being changed to accommodate people just cause...it bothers me. It doesnt "help" other people either. It obviously didnt help the movie either, because it didnt do will critically or financially.
Are you sure Superman being gay or bi wouldn't hurt you? I am reading a whole lot of hurt over the idea.
Let's just say for a moment that he was gay. Superman likes men. You know what I'm saying. Laying with other men. Of the same sex.
Now let's say that for the most part, in the comics and movies, we don't actually see much man love. Maybe the odd kiss, or wakes up in bed and his companion thanks him for not using his super strength on him.
We really don't see that, but we KNOW it's there. He's gay.
IF he were gay, what is it about that, do you find bothersome? It changes nothing about WHO Superman/ Clark is. It changes NOTHING about WHO he helps or WHY he helps anyone. He still pisses standing up (or sits, whatever). He still eats his Wheaties. He still fights for the American Way of Life.
Okay, now let's say that the comics and movies don't even show anything Mano a Mano. Let's just say they acknowledge his boyfriend now and then.
"Hey Lois, no, I can't hang out. I have a big date with Rog. Yup... Captain A! Eh? "
But we never see it.
Is it okay then? NOTHING else changes about who or what Superman is...
Except that.
How is that an issue for you? It really shouldn't bother you, and you say it doesn't.
But such things are incredibly powerful to marginalized people. People who feel they can't fit into society.