Henry Cavill Executive Producer for Warhammer 40k.

[Nth]

Wow. That is some major news for Warhammer 40k fans. Amazon has acquired the rights to Warhammer 40k, which is almost as terrifying as if Netflix had acquired the rights. However what is giving us fans hope is that Amazon has placed Henry Cavill as Executive Producer for a live action Warhammer 40k series. That is amazing news as, for those who don't know, Henry Cavill is a hardcore Warhammer 40k fanboy and tabletop player meaning he is very nerd-ragey when his favorite hobby gets messed with by studio bureaucrats. Kinda the same reason he walked away from The Witcher. The writers sheer contempt for the source material and outright abandoning of the lore. Henry has been known to go on Warhammer 40k tangents during press junkets because he is so into it.

It had been rumored for a few years now that a Warhammer 40k Eisenhorn series was in the works. I don't know if this project is a continuation of that, or an all new project, but very exciting to see someone who actually likes the IP having the opportunity of taking the reigns of it. Amazon having the license makes me nervous; Henry Cavill being in charge of it gives me great hope. This universe could easily fill the void the Star Wars universe once had for me as I am a massive Warhammer and Warhammer 40k fan. Plus the Warhammer 40k universe makes Star Wars look like a playpen full of kittens.

Arch Warhammer, one of the biggest 40k youtubers out there, discusses the new developments.

 

[joberg]

Yes...great news and H.C. being that big of a fan is very good...and very bad (see problems arguing with the writers into respecting the Witcher)
One can hope

 

[Riceball]

While Henry is an executive producer on the show, we really don't know exactly how much pull he will have and just how high up the food chain he will be. TV shows are very well known for giving their stars a producer credit because they can't afford to pay them their normal rate or give them a raise after so many seasons on the show. And even if he's one of, or the top producer on the show, he still has to answer to the execs at Amazon who can tell him that the lore is problematic and they need to change it. Of course, they'd be fools to do so and would likely face a lot of backlash from fans if Cavill were to leave the 40K project over creative differences as well, but the fact he is an executive producer is no guarantor of a good show.

 

[Sluis Van Shipyards]

I don't know much about Warhammer other than that it looks cool and the little bit I learned from playing a couple games. There's so many freaking games I don't know where to start. I played the Space Marine one, but there's tons of games.

Now after this was announced, a bunch of women, supposedly writers on The Witcher, are trying to post a bunch of crap about Henry Cavill to get back at him. It's actually pretty funny because they are being careful to not quite MeToo him (because they can't), but they're really only saying that he was going over Lauren Hissrich's head to suggest changes and keep the show close to the books. He literally has said that from the beginning. The other accusation is that he is a gamer and talks about video games. I'm sure that will help turn the primarily gamer fans of The Witcher against him and back to the show.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

I know nothing of Warhammer, save for stumbling into paint-up videos on youtube. Having Cavill involved has made me interested in checking it out. He's still the new Superman for me, who was snubbed out of a good Superman movie. So maybe he can bring some awesomeness to this.

 

[Moviefreak]

I don't know much about Warhammer other than that it looks cool and the little bit I learned from playing a couple games. There's so many freaking games I don't know where to start. I played the Space Marine one, but there's tons of games.

Now after this was announced, a bunch of women, supposedly writers on The Witcher, are trying to post a bunch of crap about Henry Cavill to get back at him. It's actually pretty funny because they are being careful to not quite MeToo him (because they can't), but they're really only saying that he was going over Lauren Hissrich's head to suggest changes and keep the show close to the books. He literally has said that from the beginning. The other accusation is that he is a gamer and talks about video games. I'm sure that will help turn the primarily gamer fans of The Witcher against him and back to the show.

It looks like fans would just assume removing those writers and having Henry come back

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[Solo4114]

For those unaware, Warhammer 40K is, for the most part, more of a setting rather than a story. I mean, there are certain events that have occurred, and various books and stuff that you could draw stories from, but the main stuff you'd want to know is just about the setting itself.

The next thing you need to know is that WH40K is and always has been a project focused around selling models and miniatures first and foremost. In its earliest iterations, it was basically just the sci-fi version of Warhammer Fantasy Battles, which was also designed primarily to sell models and miniatures. The "lore" of this setting has been consistent in some respects, but also pretty flexible in othres, and the "vibe" of the setting has varied from grimdark seriousness to decidedly tongue-in-cheek, sometimes all at once.

Example: in the 40K setting, there used to be "squats" which were basically "space dwarves." (There always were, and continue to be, space orks, space elves, space dark elves, space undead, and...whatever the T'au are.) The squats basically disappeared for about 30-ish years and only recently, finally, came back...and lucky you, you can buy some new models of them!!!!

In the mid 2000s (I think), they started publishing a book series about the Horus Heresy, which is this foundational event that basically set the "current" timeline in the state where it is at the moment, and which essentially plays out like the "war in heaven" between God and his armies of angels on the one hand, and Lucifer and his army of fallen angels on the other. Anyway, the book series is meant to cover a span of roughly 9-ish years, and began relatively quickly with a very entertaining trilogy of books showing how the Space Marines of one legion became corrupted. It then ballooned into a series of OVER SIXTY novels, short story collections, etc., all of which detail this or that aspect of this period of time and the figures involved in it. And it's still not finished. Book 63 is scheduled to be published in 2023 and apparently is only "Part I" of that specific story. At this point, the publication timeline exceeds the timeframe of the actual events themselves, with the first book having been published in 2006.

More to my initial point, in the midst of all of this massive sea of lore, the books and that time period have also given rise to a thriving market in...you guessed it...models and miniatures from this time period! Even though it takes place some 10,000 years prior to the "current" timeline.

Bottom line, lore has always been subordinate to the need to sell more minis and models, which is fine. If you're a fan of this stuff, you don't tend to care a ton, and that's mostly (I suspect) because it really is just a setting rather than a narrative first.

All that aside, it's got some cool aspects, and I think they could turn it into some neat stories if they're willing to spend the budget to do it justice.

 

[Nth]

For those unaware, Warhammer 40K is, for the most part, more of a setting rather than a story. I mean, there are certain events that have occurred, and various books and stuff that you could draw stories from, but the main stuff you'd want to know is just about the setting itself.

The next thing you need to know is that WH40K is and always has been a project focused around selling models and miniatures first and foremost. In its earliest iterations, it was basically just the sci-fi version of Warhammer Fantasy Battles, which was also designed primarily to sell models and miniatures. The "lore" of this setting has been consistent in some respects, but also pretty flexible in othres, and the "vibe" of the setting has varied from grimdark seriousness to decidedly tongue-in-cheek, sometimes all at once.

Example: in the 40K setting, there used to be "squats" which were basically "space dwarves." (There always were, and continue to be, space orks, space elves, space dark elves, space undead, and...whatever the T'au are.) The squats basically disappeared for about 30-ish years and only recently, finally, came back...and lucky you, you can buy some new models of them!!!!

In the mid 2000s (I think), they started publishing a book series about the Horus Heresy, which is this foundational event that basically set the "current" timeline in the state where it is at the moment, and which essentially plays out like the "war in heaven" between God and his armies of angels on the one hand, and Lucifer and his army of fallen angels on the other. Anyway, the book series is meant to cover a span of roughly 9-ish years, and began relatively quickly with a very entertaining trilogy of books showing how the Space Marines of one legion became corrupted. It then ballooned into a series of OVER SIXTY novels, short story collections, etc., all of which detail this or that aspect of this period of time and the figures involved in it. And it's still not finished. Book 63 is scheduled to be published in 2023 and apparently is only "Part I" of that specific story. At this point, the publication timeline exceeds the timeframe of the actual events themselves, with the first book having been published in 2006.

More to my initial point, in the midst of all of this massive sea of lore, the books and that time period have also given rise to a thriving market in...you guessed it...models and miniatures from this time period! Even though it takes place some 10,000 years prior to the "current" timeline.

Bottom line, lore has always been subordinate to the need to sell more minis and models, which is fine. If you're a fan of this stuff, you don't tend to care a ton, and that's mostly (I suspect) because it really is just a setting rather than a narrative first.

All that aside, it's got some cool aspects, and I think they could turn it into some neat stories if they're willing to spend the budget to do it justice.

There are also numerous Youtubers who have extensive Warhammer 40k channels covering characters and events in almost documentary level detail. Arch's Siege of Vraks series is something like 46 lengthy episodes. I actually spend many a night shift listening to their channels.
The Badab War, The Sabbat Crusade, The 3 wars for Armageddon, the Horus Heresy, The Black Crusades, The Fall of Cadia, The returning Primarchs, the corpse emperor moved for the first time in 10,000 years, the Primaris Astartes. Some even go back and cover the Emperor's initial conquering of Terra with the Thunder Warriors (precursor to the Adeptes Astartes) and his subsequent betrayal of them.

So much content, literally hundreds and hundreds of hours. Some presented them so well I've listened to them multiple times. Especially the astounding detail Arch covers the two Ork invasions of Armageddon. Listened to those many times over.

Some of the lore based Youtubers out there covering 40k are:

Arch https://www.youtube.com/@ArchYouTube
Baldemort https://www.youtube.com/@baldermort
Luetin09 https://www.youtube.com/@Luetin09
MajorKill https://www.youtube.com/@majorkill18
TheAmberKing https://www.youtube.com/@TheAmberKing
ABorderPrince https://www.youtube.com/@ABorderPrince
WarriorTier https://www.youtube.com/@WarriorTier
GrimDarkNarrator https://www.youtube.com/@GrimDarkNarrator
OculusImperia https://www.youtube.com/@OculusImperia
ChapterMasterValrak https://www.youtube.com/@ChapterMasterValrak
WolfLordRho https://www.youtube.com/@wolflordrho
TacticaImperialis https://www.youtube.com/@TacticaImperialis
TheBookofChoyer https://www.youtube.com/@TheBookofChoyer
40kTheories https://www.youtube.com/@40KTheories
VaultsofTerra https://www.youtube.com/@VaultsOfTerra
OneMindSyndicate https://www.youtube.com/@OneMindSyndicate

Bricky also has a series of lore videos for people brand new to Warhammer 40k covering all the main factions.

Part 1 -

Part 2 -

Covering the original 20 Legiones Astartes legions and their Primarchs.

 

[HeartBlade]

Now after this was announced, a bunch of women, supposedly writers on The Witcher, are trying to post a bunch of crap about Henry Cavill to get back at him. It's actually pretty funny because they are being careful to not quite MeToo him (because they can't), but they're really only saying that he was going over Lauren Hissrich's head to suggest changes and keep the show close to the books. He literally has said that from the beginning. The other accusation is that he is a gamer and talks about video games. I'm sure that will help turn the primarily gamer fans of The Witcher against him and back to the show.

I thought they were outright “me too”ing him for being problematic on set and being a gamer, bring gamergate back again. Given the fact that most of the Witcher fans are likely going to be fans of the games, being called problematic again is going to go over great. And the few Witcher fans they have left, they can also drive away with messing up the lore. I guess they can take solace in the fact that the watchers than remain will be fans of their work.

Yeah, I don’t know what is going on with streaming going into video game and tabletop game stories. I think Amazon bought God of War as well and HBO has the last of us. Sadly, these are pretty mediocre stories imo (much rather have a Metal Gear Solid, No More Heroes, or Vanquish tv series produced in the US to combine some decent stories with outlandish action and violence that only US tv can do justice). They are also choosing games with mediocre stories to push into TV which is silly imo. I do think this is part of Sony’s strategy to get their IPs more well-known to a general audience.