That sounds about right to me.
For some reason, maybe because of choreography, or different practical effect reasons, the V3 wouldn't work as well for the Sail Barge stunt sequences. Resin casts were made of the V3/SS and painted to resemble it. These were used for when Luke is jumping around, for the R2 launch, and when Luke slams against the side of the barge and starts to climb. In other words-- a stunt saber meant for actual stunts, not dueling or fighting.
When the saber is activated and swung around, since there was not another saber to duel with and actors were in the way, a stunt saber was made with a shorter rod. Made from scratch, a box was attached with two screws, and the rod was set inside. It was painted to resemble the V3/SS. This is the Yuma. There may have been more than one.
The Yuma, or one of its possible copies, was then cleaned up further and given the different box for the cave and/or ISYHCANL inserts.
So basically, it's what we've always known-- save for the fact that this new resin saber says that maybe all those copies we know were out in the desert were not based on the Yuma, but were based on the V3/SS.
Right?
I wonder if the extensive weathering might be due to the sandstorm scene. A lot of what can be discerned in the rest of the movie seems to line up with how the prop appears today. The sand could have worked a decent amount of the paint off.Seth, the V2 during the sandstorm scenes actually had a quite a bit of paint still on it. It didn't become super weathered until sometime AFTER that scene was filmed. Yes it was weathered, but reference shows its clearly not as extensively as we see in the rest of the film
Seth, the V2 during the sandstorm scenes actually had a quite a bit of paint still on it. It didn't become super weathered until sometime AFTER that scene was filmed. Yes it was weathered, but reference shows its clearly not as extensively as we see in the rest of the film
I wonder if the extensive weathering might be due to the sandstorm scene. A lot of what can be discerned in the rest of the movie seems to line up with how the prop appears today. The sand could have worked a decent amount of the paint off.
The V2 may have had paint scraped off from its ANH days, or maybe it was just worn after being used as a hammer at Echo Base.
Maybe I should have said "sand" [emoji4]. I'm sure that they wouldn't use real sand on a sound stage. Now, can that fake stuff work off paint? Why so much of a difference between that scene and the rest of the movie?Yes! I was thrilled to see that cause I had felt like the paint scraping was somewhat intentional, if not rough.
Not likely since it wasn't a real sandstorm
It was likely vermiculite and talc since it was shot on a stage.
Technically the 'hammer' lightsaber in ESB at Echobase could still be the second or first OB1 ANH with the real grenade ... not the Shared Stunt/V2 :wacko
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Maybe I should have said "sand" [emoji4]. I'm sure that they wouldn't use real sand on a sound stage. Now, can that fake stuff work off paint? Why so much of a difference between that scene and the rest of the movie?
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Weak rattlecan job... okay, sue me if my imagination is going wild, but could they have done a rush repaint of the prop to pretty it up right before filming? I've seen the pics of Mark Hammil on set that first day of filming with a Graflex, discussing something with George, then we see the V2 on Luke's belt from that point forward. It seems that they nearly forgot that Luke had lost his saber in the previous film and rushed to find a replacement. If they did a quick redress of the beaten up dueling prop, I can see the prop department slapping on some paint, hitting it with a blow dryer to get the paint dry enough to handle, then turning it over to the actor for filming. The paint wouldn't be tacky, especially if it's NOT gloss, but it wouldn't be fully cured, either. Those first 24-48 hours are crucial when letting spray paint set up. The paint would be knocked loose more easily the first day or so of shooting but would then adhere better from that point on. This would explain why the chips in the paint from the rest of the film match up pretty well with the saber how it appears today, and also why we can see a bit of brown peaking through on the windvane. Or maybe not :/Even though the "hammer" has a dueling rod attached?
Nothing that they are going to blow in an actors face and around a film camera is going to have the strength to strip paint off metal. Either it was a weak satin rattle can paint job that just wore off easily, or they scraped paint off so it was less obi-wanish.
HA! You can quadruple it! Or more, but it get's kinda big/blown out on my screen, here ya go though...
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Weak rattlecan job... okay, sue me if my imagination is going wild, but could they have done a rush repaint of the prop to pretty it up right before filming? I've seen the pics of Mark Hammil on set that first day of filming with a Graflex, discussing something with George, then we see the V2 on Luke's belt from that point forward. It seems that they nearly forgot that Luke had lost his saber in the previous film and rushed to find a replacement. If they did a quick redress of the beaten up dueling prop, I can see the prop department slapping on some paint, hitting it with a blow dryer to get the paint dry enough to handle, then turning it over to the actor for filming. The paint wouldn't be tacky, especially if it's NOT gloss, but it wouldn't be fully cured, either. Those first 24-48 hours are crucial when letting spray paint set up. The paint would be knocked loose more easily the first day or so of shooting but would then adhere better from that point on. This would explain why the chips in the paint from the rest of the film match up pretty well with the saber how it appears today, and also why we can see a bit of brown peaking through on the windvane. Or maybe not :/
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Fast and cheap.
Fast and cheap.
Fast and cheap, detail not seen unless it's a hero shot. That was the mantra for props from 1890 until HD hit the home market.
Ok, how did you figure out the URL for this larger pic? Wired has a number of others on various articles that would be nice to have at higher res.