Yoda's true eye size museum willing to help

[itsalive]

I am really sure it's not 30mm.

I don't want to get into a debate about it.


Rather I need the help of someone here who can figure/solve out a way for the research director to get a near exact figure of the eye size without him being able to open the case that Yoda is displayed in.

This is an original puppet provided to them in the early 80's. It's not the Myth and Magic tour Yoda.
He's inside an acrylic case and most of his eye on the right side is visible due to the latex slouching in that area.

This guy can not open the case and take direct measurements.
Heres an image of this Yoda. Do you guys have any ideas to help this guy figure out the eyes true measurements?

 

[Straycatt]

Re: Yoda's true eye size museum will to help need you help

Use a laser measuring device. Mark (with vinyl tape) a spot directly in front of one side of the eye. Measure the distance through the case to the point on the eye (distance from case front to side of eye). Then measure the distance from the same point to the other side of the eye, making certain to determine the angle between the two measurements. Then use trigonometery to figure oyt the diameter of the eye.

This is all assuming you have an accurate measuring device, and that it will work through the case.

-Adam

 

[Forestmoonstudio]

Re: Yoda's true eye size museum will to help need you help

Call Ethan Hunt. :lolBad joke.

 

[itsalive]

Re: Yoda's true eye size museum will to help need you help

Use a laser measuring device. Mark (with vinyl tape) a spot directly in front of one side of the eye. Measure the distance through the case to the point on the eye (distance from case front to side of eye). Then measure the distance from the same point to the other side of the eye, making certain to determine the angle between the two measurements. Then use trigonometery to figure oyt the diameter of the eye.

This is all assuming you have an accurate measuring device, and that it will work through the case.

-Adam

I think I understand.

The guy could tape a clear piece of overhead transparency sheeting up against the case. Hold the lasers tip directly to the sheets surface, and move it around until he had the lasers dot dead in the center of the pupil. Mark that area off on the transparency sheet.

I guess I could score the laser pointers end tip in the center with a line and that line could be used as a guide to make the mark off point

Then all he has to do is direct the next laser points location to the eyes absolute edge and mark that area off on the same transparency sheet, now between those two dots I have half of the eyes true measurement.

All I have to do is double it to get the exact size.

You think this might work?

 

[Contec]

Re: Yoda's true eye size museum will to help need you help

Some Boba Fett guys did the same thing with 2 laser pointers taped to a camcorder. They were able to measure bobas armor and other props on him.

/Conny

 

[Vaderman]

Re: Yoda's true eye size museum will to help need you help

Can't you edit, then hit advanced and alter the title of the thread?
Those are great pics of Yoda, He is in better shape than I would have imagined (at his age!)
I hope you can do the parallel lasers thing and get some decent measurements or maybe get really friendly with a person who works there and the next time they are cleaning the displays or something, maybe you can be there to help with a caliper or something.
That lady in the picture looks pretty friendly, maybe she can help...

 

[GINO]

Re: Yoda's true eye size museum will to help need you help

Wow this is just awesome.
I don't know how many complete yodas were made, but it's always cool to see them. I've seen three now.

It looks like the head, hands, feet, and cane are all originals, but the robes are not.

Where is this museum located?

Rather than ramble on about it and go off topic in your thread, I started a new thread discussing the screen used ESB yodas here:
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?p=830603#post830603

As far as getting accurate measurements on the eyes, unfortunately there is no way to get one without actually measuring. Best you could do is get relatively close. I'm not a fan of the laser pointer method as I've found there is just way too much room for error especially when we're dealing with something so small.
I would say you are better off making some circular templates increasing by 1mm increments and hold them up to the case and use your best judgement to match. It's not going to be totally accurate, but without actually measuring them, I think it's the next best thing.

Good luck. :thumbsup

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[Darth Niob]

Re: Yoda's true eye size museum will to help need you help

Oops, havent thought that this is an original:eek

 

[rollerboi]

Re: Yoda's true eye size museum will to help need you help

Holding up a disc in front of the case will not achieve accurate results, because it will not be on the same plane as the item being measured. For example, a footprint in soil - placing a ruler on the ground next to it will be inaccurate, as there's a millimeter or so of difference that will throw off the measurements; one would need to dig out a little trench to place the ruler at the same plane of the print.

Same goes for Yoda. Standing in front of the case holding up discs to the eye will be inaccurate.

One thing you could do is print out a sized template of circles, then line it up next to the case in the same plane as the eyes, and take a picture. Then, use photoshop to do overlay matching. Does that make sense? Make sure the sheet is backed by something stiff so it doesn't flop over.

Alternatively, you could take the same picture with a high contrast ruler held at the exact same plane as the eyes. A laser pointer might help you align the ruler with the center of the eyeball. The same photoshop extrapolation would apply. The biggest concern is making sure the ruler marks can be seen to such a small degree; I'd personally print out a sheet with a bunch of circles as described above. Easier to work with.

 

[GINO]

Re: Yoda's true eye size museum will to help need you help

That's what I said in my post. :wacko

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[itsalive]

Re: Yoda's true eye size museum will to help need you help

Where is this museum located?

It's in New York.

I promise to share the size of the eye info when I get it.


I've played around in paint programs with a high resolution image of the eye from this display puppet.

I noticed that the flocking in the eye was exactly one pixel in thickness in one of those images.

Which is equal to 0.004 of an inch


Pupil= 50 pixels

Times 0.004= 0.200

Convert Inches to MM= 5.08mm

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Iris= 150 pixels

Times 0.004= 0.600

Convert Inches to MM= 15.24mm
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Eyeball= 362 pixels (It might be off by 1 or 2 pixels)

Times 0.004= 1.448

Convert Inches to MM= 36.7792mm

I've suspected 36mm for a while now. Will know better in a few weeks hopefully.

 

[zorg]

do you know the girls measurements?

it might help...........:love

 

[Vadermonkey]

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[itsalive]

do you know the girls measurements?

it might help...........:love

Unfortunately I do not. :lol

 

[rollerboi]

Re: Yoda's true eye size museum will to help need you help

That's what I said in my post. :wacko

What can I say, Gino.. you inspire me. Just elaborating further on why it would work.

 

[GINO]

Gotcha. :thumbsup

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[frosty]

36mm seems quite large, it looks like more a 28/30 size to me

 

[chris_s]

I would think taking a picture with the rulers would only work if you could stand FAR back from the display with a telephoto lens. Otherwise the measurements couldn't be accurate because you'd be to close. With the ruler you'd also have to be sure the camera is perpendicular to the ruler. Which I would think would be pretty hard to do.

I would think the laser measurements would work. Especially since you're dealing with spheres. They are the same size regardless of your angle to them. The trick would just be making sure that the laser can glide across a perfectly level surface. Which the display case would provide.