X-Men First Class Movie Discussion

[superDrool]

Hello, Jamie. Welcome to the the RPF. How long has it been since you touched a comic?

 

[digger2307]

Hello, Jamie. Welcome to the the RPF. How long has it been since you touched a comic?

3 days 12 hours and 6 minutes. the first step is admitting I have a problem. lol

 

[radicalryan]

This is the best x men movie so far. I have never liked the other x mens besides the first or second i guess. It just is something hard to make and so far no one has done it right, at least in my opinion but first class is the best, so far.

 

[Crimsonnaire]

I havnt seen it yet and wish I could check it out soon but correct me if im wrong.
In X-Men 1, Hank McCoy was seen in the background on a tv doing an interview not as beast. So if he had not become beast yet how is he Beast in the prequel?
second...
In the prequel I belive Havoc is on the team. I'm not 100% sure but i've heard he is. Is he not suppose to be Scott Summers brother?

Holy sh@#! I completely forgot that, or else I would've complained about that as well. Hell, if I hadn't watched the Dark Phoenix saga on Youtube two nights before seeing First Class, I would've had no idea who Sebastian Shaw was.

McCoy is shown on TV talking about the mutation phenomena, but that doesn't necessarily have to be in the exact timeframe of the film itself. I could be a recording made long before. But, notwithstanding, McCoy is clearly a grown man who's an established scientist, and the First Class McCoy is under 20. Going back to the frustratingly pathetic retcon method, we can assume that his transformation was a delicate thing, given the facts that it was brought on by a single syringe and how quickly it reverts when he steps into the presence of the bald kid in X3, as if it's something that can sporatically jump back and forth like Iceman's ice form. For what it's worth (or lack thereof), I think First Class would've suffered nothing substantial if they kept McCoy in his human form the entire time. His second-phase mutation served absolutely no purpose other than aesthetics to say, "Yes, that's Beast!" For that matter, I think they should've kept Xavier paralysis-free also! Yet another useless, aesthetically derived statement to the audience, "Yes, this the bald man in the wheel chair you saw before!"

I'm with those of you who desperately want to see this as a prequel, so we'll just keeping making up lame excuses for things. The trouble in the hands of the producers now is the dilemma between proceeding as an indisputable reboot with irreconcilable contradictions in following films, or to ease it on back to the mainstream continuity. If they choose the first, they risk having the shortcomings of the previous trilogy predisposedly projected onto the new projects, but at least it opens the door of possibility for sequels of X3, and if the latter, they risk a reduced reception due to further continuity issues already exacerbated by the presence of a similar cast and setting, though at least they'd be free to write any story they wish and hope that their creativity overpowers the semantics.

Anyhow, I was daydreaming at dinner, and figured what the second class film should be about: Struggles between the X-men and the Russian mutants during the Cold War era, i.e. Omega Red & company. Plus side: Wolverine and Gambit could return; preferably Colossus too, though that might contradict his presence in the previous films. I think Colossus was one of few who the fans would've liked to see shine more (no pun) along with Psylocke and Beast. By this time, Cyclops would've been recruited and Wolverine would already have his adamantium and still shaking off his memory loss, though he doesn't necessarily have to babysit the X-men the whole time for the sake of respecting the first chronology; just converging at the heated battles. Down side: If I recall correctly, Omega Red was strictly a Russian counterpart of Capt America, and created prior to even the time of First Class, so there will be another disregard for the comics. But maybe this won't really matter, seeing how the most of you don't care anyway.

By the way, did any of you see Stan Lee in this one? I don't remember seeing him any where, though I wasn't exactly keeping an eye out for him.

I know people who speak regular when on the job and with their normal accent in their free time. I doubt very much she wouldn't have spent a lot of time with her dialect if she was to be working for CIA. After that... working as a scientist... there'd be no need to hide the accent. All the time during the movie she had something to prove, so would keep speaking the same way.

Completely plausible to me.

I'm fine with that, although I was envisioning Charles walking again from his earnest desire fulfill the evolutionary function of reproduction in midst of his relationship Moira, and during one night of unpleasant intercourse, he telephathically tries to convince her of pleasure, but fails, and in his grudging frustration, he briefly tricks her into thinking she's a Scottish scientist for counter amusement, but inadvertently triggers a permanent effect, and upon realization of the unintentional prank, she reciprocates with a gentle kick to his back, which inadvertently lands at a critical spot of the spinal column, recrippling him.

 

[Larry Young]

Stan wasn't in this one.

 

[JLeezy23]

Not in Wolverine Origins either. Not Marvel productions, they're 20th Fox, correct?

 

[Larry Young]

Stan tweeted it was being filmed too far away to attend, but confirmed he's in Cap and the new Spidey.

 

[digger2307]

Not in Wolverine Origins either. Not Marvel productions, they're 20th Fox, correct?

Yeah there Fox so that may be why he didnt have to be in it. Loved his wee cameo in Thor tho.

 

[Prop Collector]

I am shocked at how good this film was. If Captain America is good then Marvel will have gone 3/3 this summer.

 

[JLeezy23]

Hey i've never noticed this before, he must find cures that don't work very long

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[firesprite]

Hey i've never noticed this before, he must find cures that don't work very long

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YUM!!!! :love

 

[Yarko]

Or maybe that's just his holoprojector

He uses that stuff a lot in the comics lol

 

[fred99u]

This is the best x men movie so far. I have never liked the other x mens besides the first or second i guess. It just is something hard to make and so far no one has done it right, at least in my opinion but first class is the best, so far.

i think i agree with you, it was good

 

[The-Clayster]

I just came back from seeing it. A bit late from the party, but darn was it good! Very glad I went to see it.

 

[Goonie]

Is Target the only store that's selling a Blu-Ray+DVD+Digital Copy combo? I'm looking for a store here in Canada that may have the triple combo. I'd like to get a Blu-Ray+DVD combo. I could care less about the digital copy.

Sucks that Target isn't in Canada yet, still have to wait another year for them to get established up here.

 

[Guri]

I have just spent 46 comments on facebook arguing the toss with non comic book readers about why theres continuity differences in the film. Non fanboys make me go abit loose when they start talkin like they know what there on about and havent picked up a comic in their life. After much debating about xavier walking again (even batman was brought into it) it was finally settled...

then I realised, I am a sad man who spent 46 posts bitching about a film.

Hi my name Jamie and Im a comicaholic....

Haha! I just saw First Class then a week or so later saw Last Stand (I am slow, I have kids, what can I say) and was really confused about why Professor X was walking when he was paralyzed when he was younger.

I for one THANK you for your devotion to explaining even more than I would have dreamed of asking. Three years after the fact.